G Huxley Posted May 20, 2016 Report Posted May 20, 2016 From Syrian refugees? Um ... yes. That's ridiculous. . You don't understand the nature of Islamic people do you? I've traveled through numerous Islamic countries. They believe in very high family sizes. The Islamic govts use refugees as a weapon of colonization against the west.
jacee Posted May 20, 2016 Report Posted May 20, 2016 You don't understand the nature of Islamic people do you? I've traveled through numerous Islamic countries. They believe in very high family sizes. The Islamic govts use refugees as a weapon of colonization against the west. You do know that the thread title is an error? .
G Huxley Posted May 20, 2016 Report Posted May 20, 2016 Yes, I'm aware. I'm not arguing in favour of the thread title. I realize that it is absurd.
jacee Posted May 20, 2016 Report Posted May 20, 2016 (edited) Yes, I'm aware. I'm not arguing in favour of the thread title. I realize that it is absurd.Maybe you could dial down the absurd catastrophizing?Lol . Edited May 20, 2016 by jacee
G Huxley Posted May 20, 2016 Report Posted May 20, 2016 Why? Its a slow motion train wreck. Or like the frog in boiling water, where the water temperature increases so slowly that the frog doesn't notice its boiling.
cannuck Posted May 20, 2016 Report Posted May 20, 2016 (edited) I've already proven it was true through cites earlier in this topic. The only purpose in bringing them here is so that brainless progressives can feel noble and self-sacrificing.There are a few key elements in making that work. First, the "do gooders" that have boots on the ground are aid agencies, who's employees are paid to give out aid. So, that is what they do. They make their money by passing cash and a narrowly defined set of goods on to refugee camps. That results in the same, squalid or sterile camps where refugees are left unemployed and tended to by an army of do-gooders. Why is it so hard to understand that of the people being displaced, EVERY profession and trade is represented??? If you/we were to provide them with the funds, or THEIR list of materials, they will construct shelter, make meals, provide services, etc. needed to sustain that community. They just need some cash to make it happen. Of course, the host countries are horrified by that notion, as they will end up with permanent residents - just as WE be horrified in proportion. These are not people who spent their life to achieve the goal of living in Canada, si why would anyone want to get them to do so? They have a life, they have a country, they have families, they have a culture - AT HOME. They can return to that when the region settles its difficulties when they live on the border in a country that is anxious to have them go back home. Where someone to make me czar of refugee camps, I would start by defining an engineering package of temporary structures and infrastructure. When a new camp was needed, the do-gooders could simply tell the first arrivals to set up a government (blueprint for that supplied) and here are the specs for what you can build, and how you can build it. Cash will be in the nearest local bank until you get their building up and running, when they can open your branch. When you take millions of a certain persuasion away from a conflict zone, you have just achieved the "other side's" ultimate goal: you removed them from the area - allowing them to simply take over their property, the resources, their culture and their country. Palestinians refugees have been crammed into camp/ghettos since 1948. Why haven't all of these do-gooder countries taken in the Palestinian refugees? I know Israel would jump for joy, just as Asad amd ISIL are now. Edited May 20, 2016 by cannuck
Argus Posted May 20, 2016 Report Posted May 20, 2016 There is little to no opportunity for jobs, becoming self-supporting, for the millions of people crowded into refugee camps. Kind of like our natives on the reserves, you mean? You don't want to bring the natives into our cities, so why do you want to take the poor Syrians away from their culture and force them to integrate in Canada? "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
jacee Posted May 20, 2016 Report Posted May 20, 2016 Kind of like our natives on the reserves, you mean? You don't want to bring the natives into our cities, so why do you want to take the poor Syrians away from their culture and force them to integrate in Canada? That's just stupid Argus. .
eyeball Posted May 21, 2016 Report Posted May 21, 2016 That's just Argus. A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Argus Posted May 21, 2016 Report Posted May 21, 2016 That's just stupid Argus. . Indeed. That was what I was pointing out about your arguments. "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
jacee Posted May 21, 2016 Report Posted May 21, 2016 Indeed. That was what I was pointing out about your arguments.Your analogy makes no sense..
Argus Posted May 21, 2016 Report Posted May 21, 2016 Your analogy makes no sense. It makes absolute sense. It is the fact you have such widely different remedies to the two situations which makes no sense. Refugees in camps? More money? Nope. They must be brought over here where they can get jobs and have a good life. Indians on reservations? More money! They must never under any circumstances be removed from their economically deprived cultural enclaves and brought into the cities where they would be overwhelmed by us! "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
jacee Posted May 21, 2016 Report Posted May 21, 2016 It makes absolute sense. It is the fact you have such widely different remedies to the two situations which makes no sense. Refugees in camps? More money? Nope. They must be brought over here where they can get jobs and have a good life. Indians on reservations? More money! They must never under any circumstances be removed from their economically deprived cultural enclaves and brought into the cities where they would be overwhelmed by us! Nobody is bringing anyone anywhere against their will. .
Argus Posted May 21, 2016 Report Posted May 21, 2016 Nobody is bringing anyone anywhere against their will. Nobody is talking about bringing natives into the twentieth century against their will, either, but of encouraging them to do so. I understand it took some encouragement to get some of these refugees to agree to come over here too. They wanted to stay with their own kind in their own ancestral lands, so to speak. "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
jacee Posted May 21, 2016 Report Posted May 21, 2016 Nobody is talking about bringing natives into the twentieth century against their will, either, but of encouraging them to do so.I think under funding them was designed to be that 'encouragement' to remove them from their resource rich ancestral lands. Starving them to get them out of the way of corporate profit making has a long history in Canada. I understand it took some encouragement to get some of these refugees to agree to come over here too. They wanted to stay with their own kind in their own ancestral lands, so to speak.Link?There were and are plenty who would like to come, so I doubt that's a significant factor. .
SpankyMcFarland Posted May 22, 2016 Report Posted May 22, 2016 As an immigrant to this country, I believe there is a finite number of refugees that can be assimilated in Canada per year. We should at least seek to clarify how many we can reasonably take. Events since 9/11 have shown the importance of cultural assimilation. Immigrants should want to embrace our values and should be informed that this is expected. If you don't want to become Canadian, go elsewhere. There are lots who do.
Charles Anthony Posted May 22, 2016 Report Posted May 22, 2016 Folks, This thread is locked because the title sows confusion over the topic. Members are invited to re-open a new thread with an accurate title --- call it what you will. The new thread may be merged into the old thread retaining the revised title. We do not have time for a meeting of the flat earth society. << Où sont mes amis ? Ils sont ici, ils sont ici... >>
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