bush_cheney2004 Posted March 6, 2016 Report Posted March 6, 2016 I believe she also influenced her husband with her moderate views. Yes...she nudged a reluctant President Reagan to move on the HIV/AIDS issue/crisis with national policy. Economics trumps Virtue.
WestCoastRunner Posted March 6, 2016 Report Posted March 6, 2016 Yes...she nudged a reluctant President Reagan to move on the HIV/AIDS issue/crisis with national policy. But other issues as well? I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
WestCoastRunner Posted March 6, 2016 Report Posted March 6, 2016 I'm not trying to convince you I'm stating my opinion about why a systematic 'no' is a detriment.. That was the crux of NR's campaign. She was empowering young people to just say no. Nothing wrong with that. Would you rather she preached just say yes. I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
WestCoastRunner Posted March 6, 2016 Report Posted March 6, 2016 It's not unlike Michelle's mantra. Keep moving, be healthy. She too is empowering children to make the right choices. I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
sharkman Posted March 6, 2016 Report Posted March 6, 2016 As for my approach, I'm certainly not going to tell my kid to not have sex or to not try drugs, I'd rather teach her how to do both responsibly. Yep, teaching kids to try drugs, great idea! LOL! Lemme axe you this: Would you rather that your kids try cocaine or never try cocaine? And BC chick wants to teach her kids to try drugs, but use them responsibly.
BC_chick Posted March 6, 2016 Report Posted March 6, 2016 And BC chick wants to teach her kids to try drugs, but use them responsibly. Yeah I don't care if she smokes pot but I would care if she does heroin. I'm gonna teach her the difference instead of 'don't do drugs' Nancy Reagan/Stephen Harper approach. It's kind of the worst thing that any humans could be doing at this time in human history. Other than that, it's fine." Bill Nye on Alberta Oil Sands
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 6, 2016 Report Posted March 6, 2016 I wonder what that kind of education sounds like ? "Ok kids...gather 'round...time to learn the safe way to use heroin. Always buy your illegal heroin from a reputable drug dealer, sanitize your spoon, and try to not share any needles. Don't shoot up alone 'cause somebody needs to be sober to call the EMTs." Economics trumps Virtue.
WestCoastRunner Posted March 6, 2016 Report Posted March 6, 2016 Yeah I don't care if she smokes pot but I would care if she does heroin. I'm gonna teach her the difference instead of 'don't do drugs' Nancy Reagan/Stephen Harper approach. After giving our kids all the education we think they need, let's add on an addendum. 'I strongly encourage you to just say no'. For both drugs and sex. I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
BC_chick Posted March 6, 2016 Report Posted March 6, 2016 After giving our kids all the education we think they need, let's add on an addendum. 'I strongly encourage you to just say no'. For both drugs and sex. Why say no to sex if it's with someone they love and are using birth control?? That's exactly the problem with abstinence, it makes everything black and white instead of shades of gray (as is life). It's kind of the worst thing that any humans could be doing at this time in human history. Other than that, it's fine." Bill Nye on Alberta Oil Sands
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 6, 2016 Report Posted March 6, 2016 Why say no to sex if it's with someone they love and are using birth control?? Because it's also their choice to abstain, that's why. Economics trumps Virtue.
WestCoastRunner Posted March 6, 2016 Report Posted March 6, 2016 (edited) Why say no to sex if it's with someone they love and are using birth control?? That's exactly the problem with abstinence, it makes everything black and white instead of shades of gray (as is life). Omg. We are talking young teenagers. Letting kids know it's ok to say no is taking some pressure off them to experiment. They need to know that everyone has their back if they say no. That there is nothing wrong with saying no. If you have ever had a child in a substance abuse program you would understand or if you were a parent of a child that od'd. This isn't fun and games. Edited March 6, 2016 by WestCoastRunner I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
WestCoastRunner Posted March 6, 2016 Report Posted March 6, 2016 Yeah I don't care if she smokes pot but I would care if she does heroin. I'm gonna teach her the difference instead of 'don't do drugs' Nancy Reagan/Stephen Harper approach. I agree with the education. But I also think we need to encourage just say no. I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
Hal 9000 Posted March 6, 2016 Report Posted March 6, 2016 (edited) Why say no to sex if it's with someone they love and are using birth control?? That's exactly the problem with abstinence, it makes everything black and white instead of shades of gray (as is life). You talk about "black and white", but you're the one basically saying "rather this than that". I have girls and we teach them about drugs and sexual issues, sometimes the two intertwine. I do separate the difference between heroin and weed (although weed isn't always as safe as it was when we were young), and I always tell them that there is nothing good to be gained from doing drugs of any sort and also that they don't need a boy in their life to be complete. If a girl is trying to get an education, the last thing she needs in her life is a boyfriend and to be sexually active. There is plenty of time for the drama of a relationship after she's on her way to a decent education. Edited March 6, 2016 by Hal 9000 The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
WestCoastRunner Posted March 7, 2016 Report Posted March 7, 2016 You talk about "black and white", but you're the one basically saying "rather this than that". I have girls and we teach them about drugs and sexual issues, sometimes the two intertwine. I do separate the difference between heroin and weed (although weed isn't always as safe as it was when we were young), and I always tell them that there is nothing good to be gained from doing drugs of any sort and also that they don't need a boy in their life to be complete. If a girl is trying to get an education, the last thing she needs in her life is a boyfriend and to be sexually active. There is plenty of time for the drama of a relationship after she's on her way to a decent education. I agree. Girls get so caught up in teenage angst with boys that they do need direction for achieving educational goals without the distraction of pressure to have sex. And likewise to boys. I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
BC_chick Posted March 7, 2016 Report Posted March 7, 2016 (edited) My first experience was my high school boyfriend and I went on to finish my education with honours. I don't see how the two are related but my experiences shaped my adult views I suppose.I still love him to bits and wouldn't trade that experience for anything. Edited March 7, 2016 by BC_chick It's kind of the worst thing that any humans could be doing at this time in human history. Other than that, it's fine." Bill Nye on Alberta Oil Sands
Shady Posted March 7, 2016 Report Posted March 7, 2016 It's wishful thinking. It's better to teach them the difference between hard and soft drugs than to lump them all together as 'drugs' and say don't do them. Especially when most of their friends are going to be trying soft drugs. It's better to teach them about self respect and birth control and to just say don't have sex. They're curious and everyone around them is doing it so why not talk to them about it. Abstinence is a form of denial. Start a new thread then you piece of shit. She just died. STFU if you can't be a little gracious. Not everything is about your political preferences. D-bag.
WestCoastRunner Posted March 7, 2016 Report Posted March 7, 2016 Start a new thread then you piece of shit. She just died. STFU if you can't be a little gracious. Not everything is about your political preferences. D-bag. You deserve to be suspended for this post shady. It's outrageous. I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
BC_chick Posted March 7, 2016 Report Posted March 7, 2016 Start a new thread then you piece of shit. She just died. STFU if you can't be a little gracious. Not everything is about your political preferences. D-bag. Hmmm, pretty sure a few rule are being broken here. It's kind of the worst thing that any humans could be doing at this time in human history. Other than that, it's fine." Bill Nye on Alberta Oil Sands
Shady Posted March 7, 2016 Report Posted March 7, 2016 You deserve to be suspended for this post shady. It's outrageous. Sure. Almost as outrageous as dumping on a woman that just died.
BC_chick Posted March 7, 2016 Report Posted March 7, 2016 You deserve to be suspended for this post shady. It's outrageous. Thanks for quoting it. I did it too in case he tries to modify it. Now both of us have it quoted. It's kind of the worst thing that any humans could be doing at this time in human history. Other than that, it's fine." Bill Nye on Alberta Oil Sands
Shady Posted March 7, 2016 Report Posted March 7, 2016 Thanks for quoting it. I did it too in case he tries to modify it. Now both of us have it quoted. The only thing that should be modified is your classless behaviour.
WestCoastRunner Posted March 7, 2016 Report Posted March 7, 2016 Sure. Almost as outrageous as dumping on a woman that just died. She is stating her opinions. That's what this forum is all about. This speaks more about you than anything else. I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
WestCoastRunner Posted March 7, 2016 Report Posted March 7, 2016 The only thing that should be modified is your classless behaviour. You haven't provided any substance on this thread except to attack someone. I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
Shady Posted March 7, 2016 Report Posted March 7, 2016 She is stating her opinions. That's what this forum is all about. This speaks more about you than anything else. She should start a new thread if she wants to speak ill of somebody's passing. It says a lot about what kind of classless person she is. Complete lack of any class at all. Not surprised.
BC_chick Posted March 7, 2016 Report Posted March 7, 2016 WCR, please don't continue to engage him on this. I've reported it. It's kind of the worst thing that any humans could be doing at this time in human history. Other than that, it's fine." Bill Nye on Alberta Oil Sands
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