Donald vs Hillary

?Impact · October 23, 2016

The post [3rd] debate polls are starting to come in, and they don't look good for the Donald. Hilary's lead has widened to double digits.

cybercoma · October 23, 2016

8 minutes ago, ?Impact said:

The post [3rd] debate polls are starting to come in, and they don't look good for the Donald. Hilary's lead has widened to double digits.

The last 10 national polls conducted (all over the last 7 days), tell the story. Clinton is leading in 8 of them, Trump leads in 1, and there's 1 tie. It's pretty obvious where the voters stand.

Source: FiveThirtyEight

What's worse for the Republicans is that it has become increasingly likely that the Democrats will win the Senate as well, though that's still close enough to be either party's game.

cybercoma · October 23, 2016

Oh, it's also interesting to note that nearly all the "A" ranked polls all have Clinton with a substantial lead: +9, +8, +11. Only IBD/TIPP breaks that trend and they show a tie.

Argus · October 23, 2016

17 hours ago, taxme said:

On the contrary. We need more people like Betsy here. At least with Betsy we can believe what she says, and the internet can back her up. It would appear as though with most people they don't want to give us the other side of the story here. Just one side of the story will do it for them.

You are free to continue posting the 'wrong' side.

Argus · October 23, 2016

16 hours ago, kimmy said:

Times poll has been a consistent outlier for weeks, and the Breitbart audience can believe in it if they want, but they're just setting themselves up for crushing disappointment... much like they did 4 years ago.

I think it will be worse this time. These people REALLY hate Clinton and have for decades. And now you've got their God Trump promising them the world, and at the same time, telling them he's ahead in every poll and can only lose if it's rigged. Sure, most people understand he's full of crap, but 'most' when talking about millions still leaves lots of enraged (and armed) people who might be willing to commit violence when he loses. I would sure be hiring extra armed guards if I was the New York Times, as one example.

?Impact · October 23, 2016

2 minutes ago, Argus said:

lots of enraged (and armed) people

Are these enraged and armed people the ones he wants to send into black neighbourhoods to monitor the polls. I can just see it now, a dozen white guys in their combats with sidearms (and why not an AK-15 for good measure) standing in front of the polling station in the black part of town.

taxme · October 23, 2016

1 hour ago, Argus said:

I think it will be worse this time. These people REALLY hate Clinton and have for decades. And now you've got their God Trump promising them the world, and at the same time, telling them he's ahead in every poll and can only lose if it's rigged. Sure, most people understand he's full of crap, but 'most' when talking about millions still leaves lots of enraged (and armed) people who might be willing to commit violence when he loses. I would sure be hiring extra armed guards if I was the New York Times, as one example.

The New York Times and all the rest of the zionist controlled fake media will need extra security whether Trump wins or loses. The people are waking up as to who the real trouble makers are in the world. Long overdue indeed.

taxme · October 23, 2016

2 hours ago, Argus said:

You are free to continue posting the 'wrong' side.

You have it all wrong. I will continue to post for the 'right' side. The truthful side.

Argus · October 23, 2016

9 minutes ago, taxme said:

You have it all wrong. I will continue to post for the 'right' side. The truthful side.

I don't think anyone, by any stretch of the imagination, can call Trump's side 'truthful' given he openly lies dozens of times every day.

taxme · October 23, 2016

13 minutes ago, Argus said:

I don't think anyone, by any stretch of the imagination, can call Trump's side 'truthful' given he openly lies dozens of times every day.

And your darling girl Hillary is squeaky clean, eh? You don't get out much do you?

Argus · October 23, 2016

29 minutes ago, taxme said:

And your darling girl Hillary is squeaky clean, eh? You don't get out much do you?

No, but most of what she's accused of is mere innuendo, while I can watch Trump lying through his teeth without anyone trying to convince me.

Argus · October 24, 2016

Anyone see the Frontpage documentary on Trump and Clinton? I found the part which was most memorable was an interview with one of the bankers who was involved in the attempt to keep Trump out of bankruptcy. He said it didn't seem, to him, that he actually understood the numbers very well, that he wasn't really much of a CEO. But he and the other bankers considered him to be a great promoter, so they kept him alive because they figured his debt wracked businesses were worth more with him doing promotion than with him in bankruptcy. So they put him on an allowance and a short leash and let him promote things until they could divest themselves of as much debt as possible.

A great promoter - a salesman, but not a guy who knows much about how to run a complicated business. That definitely sounds like Trump.

kimmy · October 24, 2016

6 hours ago, taxme said:

The New York Times and all the rest of the zionist controlled fake media will need extra security whether Trump wins or loses. The people are waking up as to who the real trouble makers are in the world. Long overdue indeed.

So basically you're saying you want Trump to win because he's fighting to save the world from being taken over by a global Jewish conspiracy?

-k

bush_cheney2004 · October 24, 2016

20 minutes ago, Argus said:

Anyone see the Frontpage documentary on Trump and Clinton?

What is Frontpage ? Did you mean PBS' Frontline ?

taxme · October 24, 2016

22 hours ago, Argus said:

No, but most of what she's accused of is mere innuendo, while I can watch Trump lying through his teeth without anyone trying to convince me.

All those phony sexual assault charges have all been proven to be false. And Trump has said that after the election he is going to sue all the women who have accused him of those charges. Have you not yet checked out the internet yet to see all the goodies that one can find that are not so great about crooked and lying Hillary as Trump has called her many times which she never has challenged. One can get themselves in trouble if they call someone a liar. But Trump does not appear to be worried about that because he knows that Hillary is one of the best at lying. She probably has many books on how to lie and fool the sheeple.

So, just what proof do you have that Trump is lying thru his teeth? How would you see or know this? And even if he were lying, just about every politician lies to the taxpayer's face, including lying Hillary. Over to you.

taxme · October 24, 2016

17 hours ago, kimmy said:

So basically you're saying you want Trump to win because he's fighting to save the world from being taken over by a global Jewish conspiracy?

-k

Pretty much. According to many websites the Zionists have just about taken over the world. But don't believe me, just go to Brother Nathaniels or David Dukes websites. They will pretty much explain it all too you. That is where I get my info. from. But you must go there to listen with an open mind, not a closed one. That is if you dare too.

GostHacked · October 24, 2016

On 10/23/2016 at 11:06 AM, cybercoma said:

The last 10 national polls conducted (all over the last 7 days), tell the story. Clinton is leading in 8 of them, Trump leads in 1, and there's 1 tie. It's pretty obvious where the voters stand.

The votes have not been cast yet. Let's wait until the ballots are counted. But I don't trust those voting machines.

GostHacked · October 24, 2016

5 hours ago, taxme said:

All those phony sexual assault charges have all been proven to be false. And Trump has said that after the election he is going to sue all the women who have accused him of those charges. Have you not yet checked out the internet yet to see all the goodies that one can find that are not so great about crooked and lying Hillary as Trump has called her many times which she never has challenged. One can get themselves in trouble if they call someone a liar. But Trump does not appear to be worried about that because he knows that Hillary is one of the best at lying. She probably has many books on how to lie and fool the sheeple.

So, just what proof do you have that Trump is lying thru his teeth? How would you see or know this? And even if he were lying, just about every politician lies to the taxpayer's face, including lying Hillary. Over to you.

Trump is lying about the pageants as there are sound clips of him stating that he did enter the dressing rooms, he flat out lied about it. But since this is all locker talk, we get the same notion of locker talk from those fools Foley and Creamer who now have been fired from their posts, but yet, they are not guilty of anything.

GostHacked · October 24, 2016

On 10/23/2016 at 4:02 PM, Argus said:

No, but most of what she's accused of is mere innuendo, while I can watch Trump lying through his teeth without anyone trying to convince me.

But can we convince you that Clinton is lying through her teeth?

GostHacked · October 25, 2016

On 10/22/2016 at 6:29 PM, cybercoma said:

Trump's business credit score is 19/100! This is the "accomplished" businessman people like betsy want winning the presidency!

Since Bush Jr was elected President, regardless of the businesses he ran straight into the ground, I am willing to let Trump have a go at it.

taxme · October 25, 2016

25 minutes ago, GostHacked said:

Trump is lying about the pageants as there are sound clips of him stating that he did enter the dressing rooms, he flat out lied about it. But since this is all locker talk, we get the same notion of locker talk from those fools Foley and Creamer who now have been fired from their posts, but yet, they are not guilty of anything.

Ya, but did Trump enter those dressing rooms when the women were naked? Do you know if he did? I don't think he would. Not very good PR for him if he did. Trump having to put up with the corporate controlled zionist fake media in America has to be a true exercise in futility. They just lie and lie and lie some more. And the sad part is that the stunned sheeple that probably most of them still believe their lies and bs. What chance does truth, common sense and logic have anymore in this world? It would appear none at all.

Wilber · October 25, 2016

Ya, those kids in the Teen USA Pageant were obviously lying members of the corporate controlled zionist fake media. :lol:

kimmy · October 25, 2016

4 minutes ago, taxme said:

Ya, but did Trump enter those dressing rooms when the women were naked? Do you know if he did?

Trump said so himself, on the Howard Stern show. Although, you can't trust anything that comes out of Trump's mouth. Plus, Stern could be a Jew so maybe you wouldn't trust anything Trump said on his show anyway.

-k

kimmy · October 25, 2016

5 hours ago, taxme said:

Pretty much. According to many websites the Zionists have just about taken over the world. But don't believe me, just go to Brother Nathaniels or David Dukes websites. They will pretty much explain it all too you. That is where I get my info. from. But you must go there to listen with an open mind, not a closed one. That is if you dare too.

Ok. A KKK Grand Wizard, a Holocaust-denier crazy street preacher... I'll get on that. Any other sources you want me to check out? Rense.com? Alex Jones? Stormfront?

-k

Rue · October 25, 2016

22 hours ago, kimmy said:

So basically you're saying you want Trump to win because he's fighting to save the world from being taken over by a global Jewish conspiracy?

-k

It is too late Kimmy. Donald's daughter married a Jewish boy and so did Bill and Hilary's daughter. We are everywhere.

On a more serious note I think its safe to say Jews like all other minorities and probably Latinos, Muslims and Blacks are turned off by some of the people supporting Trump.

However Hilary Clinton has not endeared herself to minorities. She does not enjoy the close relations her husband had with Jews and blacks.

So the question is will Jews, blacks, Latinos, Muslims, gays, woman, Christians turn out to vote? The Christian vote one of the strongest and most well organized electoral machines favours Republicans and they probably will sit it out like they did with the Mormon Romney. They won't vote for Trump and his adulterous ways but they sure as hell won't vote for Hilary considered a pro abortion monster. Muslims have been privy to a whisper campaign saying she is a homosexual not withstanding she has defended them against Trump. Blacks consider her a snobby elitist closet bigot, Latinos don't really identify with her and when minorities are faced with a bigot they just don't automatically turn around and vote for the other candidate simply because she's not Trump. That's a dangerous assumption the polls make. These minorities and groups may choose just not to vote.

Will they turn out like they did for Obama? Will she be able to get Saunders voters, moderate Republicans, blacks, Latinos, Jews and other minorities out to vote for her? I don't think the polls which assume she will are as accurate as you think because I think a lot of votes she is counting on will stay at hoe.

One would have to think ow voter turn out favours Trump not Clinton.

That said, there has been high early voter turn out so that may mean a high vote turn out. So Is that a backlash for or against Trump?

Call me a skeptic but I think the polls have been known to be premature before with Donald Duck so I would prefer to wait..

It aint over until the fat lady sings. ( no I am not referring to Miss Columbia stop it).