Donald vs Hillary

BubberMiley · October 18, 2016

1 minute ago, betsy said:

So you find nothing wrong if a man brings home kids and abuse them in his basement.......and his wife (who knows about it), turns up the volume on tv so neighbors won't hear the screams. That's where you stand, I got that.

That's part of being a team as husband-and-wife, eh?

Melania wasn't there when Trump allegedly raped the 13-year-old. Don't make things up.

betsy · October 18, 2016

1 minute ago, BubberMiley said:

You should argue with the woman with the colourful fonts who has "convicted" Bill Clinton on his past lewd behaviours and without any trial at all.

It might turn into a flame war though.

BTW, nobody has the right to run for president without people looking into what kind of character they have.

What do I argue? Explain, and cite.

Wilber · October 18, 2016

Just now, betsy said:

So you find nothing wrong if a man brings home kids and abuse them in his basement.......and his wife (who knows about it), turns up the volume on tv so neighbors won't hear the screams. That's where you stand, I got that.

That's part of being a team as husband-and-wife, eh?

Thought you weren't equating Bill and Hillary with Paul and Karla. Obviously you are.

betsy · October 18, 2016

7 minutes ago, Wilber said:

Thought you weren't equating Bill and Hillary with Paul and Karla. Obviously you are.

Uhhh.....let's see.....

Based on what you quoted.......

So you find nothing wrong if a man brings home kids and abuse them in his basement.......and his wife (who knows about it), turns up the volume on tv so neighbors won't hear the screams. That's where you stand, I got that.

That's part of being a team as husband-and-wife, eh?

........how was that equating Bill and Hillary with Paul and Karla?

Wilber! That's how you see Bill and Hillary! They automatically came to your mind having read that!

Your own words, not mine. :lol:

Edited October 18, 2016 by betsy

cybercoma · October 18, 2016

12 minutes ago, Wilber said:

Kind of agree about Stern being upfront about his motives but he disputes the "locker room talk" defence. Also, who talks about his daughter that way or lets someone else without an objection, even if they are trying to be entertaining.

Yeah, to be fair, the daughter talk was revealing. It was pretty disgusting that he would do that. I'm just saying it's good that Stern won't allow himself or his show to be used for political fodder. If people want to go back and find it on their own, that's up to them.

BubberMiley · October 18, 2016

4 minutes ago, betsy said:

That's how you see Bill and Hillary! They automatically came to your mind having read that!

Your own words, not mine.

I thought you were trying to involve Melania in Trump's rape accusations. I wasn't sure why.

BubberMiley · October 18, 2016

8 minutes ago, betsy said:

What do I argue? Explain, and cite.

You argue that accusations against Bill that haven't been tried in a court of law are fair game (even though he isn't even running for president), but that they aren't fair game for Donald (even though he is).

Edited October 18, 2016 by BubberMiley

Wilber · October 18, 2016

Can't be bothered with this nonsense betsy.

You were the one who brought Paul and Karla into this conversation. So who were you speaking of when you said

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a man brings home kids and abuse them in his basement.......and his wife (who knows about it), turns up the volume on tv so neighbors won't hear the screams

and what is the title of this topic?

betsy · October 18, 2016

9 minutes ago, Wilber said:

Thought you weren't equating Bill and Hillary with Paul and Karla. Obviously you are.

I was responding to your comment about teamwork - and married couples.

What's with you and the Dems? You're so into taking things out of context! :lol:

Edited October 18, 2016 by betsy

betsy · October 18, 2016

11 minutes ago, BubberMiley said:

Melania wasn't there when Trump allegedly raped the 13-year-old. Don't make things up.

Here's another one, who takes things out of context! I must say.....that's one of the characteristics of a real lib!

BubberMiley · October 18, 2016

It's true that Melania wasn't there. He was at Jeffrey Epstein's house without her. You'd have heard more about it, but Bill was there too. :lol:

BC_chick · October 18, 2016

3 minutes ago, betsy said:

I was responding to your comment about teamwork - and married couples.

What's with you and the Dems? You're so into taking things out of context!

Trump and Melania remind me of Woody Allen and Soon Yi.

cybercoma · October 18, 2016

At some point you've got to consider the messenger when seemingly everyone takes what you're saying out of context or doesn't understand what you're posting. Says more about your presentation than anything else.

betsy · October 18, 2016

4 minutes ago, BC_chick said:

Trump and Melania remind me of Woody Allen and Soon Yi.

Okay.

And? How does that fit with teamwork done by the predator and the enabler, Bill and Hill?

Edited October 18, 2016 by betsy

betsy · October 18, 2016

7 minutes ago, cybercoma said:

At some point you've got to consider the messenger when seemingly everyone takes what you're saying out of context or doesn't understand what you're posting. Says more about your presentation than anything else.

No. All the reader has to do is read some of your posts.

Edited October 18, 2016 by betsy

Wilber · October 18, 2016

14 minutes ago, cybercoma said:

Yeah, to be fair, the daughter talk was revealing. It was pretty disgusting that he would do that. I'm just saying it's good that Stern won't allow himself or his show to be used for political fodder. If people want to go back and find it on their own, that's up to them.

Unlike Trump, Stern actually has ethics. Probably one of the reasons he has lasted so long in his line of work.

BubberMiley · October 18, 2016

12 minutes ago, betsy said:

And? How does that fit with teamwork done by the predator and the enabler, Bill and Hill?

How do you suppose a woman should deal with a cheating husband if her faith requires her to avoid divorce at all costs? Hillary, as I understand, is a very committed Methodist, a religion that considers marriage to be a life-long union.

BTW, why are you calling Bill a predator when he hasn't been tried in a court of law? Doesn't that hurt your head after your arguments about why we should ignore Donalds's alleged predation?

Edited October 18, 2016 by BubberMiley

?Impact · October 18, 2016

You can't make this stuff up. Security expert looks at Trump email servers and finds a security nightmare.

betsy · October 18, 2016

2 minutes ago, ?Impact said:

You can't make this stuff up. Security expert looks at Trump email servers and finds a security nightmare.

And? Why do you care about his email servers?

?Impact · October 18, 2016

Just now, betsy said:

And? Why do you care about his email servers?

He told me how irresponsible Hilary is because of her email servers, so obviously he should be responsible because Melina's little boy wants to be President when he grows up.

betsy · October 18, 2016

30 minutes ago, BubberMiley said:

How do you suppose a woman should deal with a cheating husband if her faith requires her to avoid divorce at all costs? Hillary, as I understand, is a very committed Methodist, a religion that considers marriage to be a life-long union.

BTW, why are you calling Bill a predator when he hasn't been tried in a court of law? Doesn't that hurt your head after your arguments about why we should ignore Donalds's alleged predation?

If you guys can convict Trump for mere allegations made by women we've never heard from before (under dubious circumstances due to the timing, in this dirtiest smearfest election).......

.........the more we can convict Bill over numerous allegations since way back, and by same women who still make the consistent claims.....one named Paula Jones even got him impeached (since it was thanks to her that the Monica Lewinski sexcapade broke out)!

Bill also settled out of court, btw,.......... and there's never any restraining order or charges of slander/defamation made to any of these 3 women even when they're actively, and aggressively trying to confront him on national tv!

These women are not only angry - they're full of rage, after all these years!

Your sense of compassion over women rings hollow when you guys willfully dismiss and refuse to recognize the pain of these women who'd consistently claimed to have been raped or assaulted by Bill Clinton!

Never mind your laughable crocodile tears for women........they're phony! And women who slams Trump, and yet dismiss these women and the allegations against Bill, ought to feel shame!

Anyway, don't you even wonder? They're slamming Bill, and he's as quiet as a mouse?

His silence.....is damning.

Anyone convicting Trump over mere allegations, and yet try to sweep Bill and Hill under the rug....really....really....are arguing irrationally.

Edited October 18, 2016 by betsy

BC_chick · October 18, 2016

22 minutes ago, betsy said:

Okay.

And?

Oh, did you think that was a stupid thing to say? What a coincidence...

BubberMiley · October 18, 2016

7 minutes ago, betsy said:

And? Why do you care about his email servers?

He's been receiving national security briefings.

Wilber · October 18, 2016

2 minutes ago, betsy said:

If you guys can convict Trump for allegations made by women we've never heard from before.......the more we can convict Bill over numerous allegations since way back, and by same women who still make the consistent claims.....one named Paula Jones even got him impeached (since it was due to her that the Monica lewinski sexcapade broke out)!

He also settled out of court, btw, and there's never any restraining order or charges of slander/defamation made to any of these 3 women even when they're actively, and aggressively trying to confront him on national tv!

Anyone convicting Trump over mere allegations, and yet try to sweep Bill and Hill under the rug....really....really....are arguing irrationally.

Trump convicted himself. Several women have just come forward to substantiate his claims.

BubberMiley · October 18, 2016

2 minutes ago, betsy said:

Anyone convicting Trump over mere allegations, and yet try to sweep Bill and Hill under the rug....really....really....are arguing irrationally.

I'm not sweeping Bill under the rug; I'm throwing him under the bus. He's not running for president and I don't blame a woman for her husband's transgressions when her faith asks her to make marriage a lifelong commitment.

You are the one convicting Bill over mere allegations and yet trying to sweep Donald's similar transgressions under the rug. So, by your standards, you are really, really arguing irrationally. That's why I think you should take this up with yourself before continuing. Otherwise, the cognitive dissonance is very distracting to your argument.