Smallc Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 Largest global recession since the Great Depression!!! Did you know that was An Actual Event? lol!!!! The economy of course, has been doing swimmingly the last two years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIK Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 Harper left them a 7.5 billion dollar surplus which they turned into a 30 billion dollar deficit, in a matter of hours it seems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Guy Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 Harper left them a 7.5 billion dollar surplus which they turned into a 30 billion dollar deficit, in a matter of hours it seems. Beef, shout, scream, spit, jump up and down ... It is a waste of time. The Liberals are a majority and JT is your PM until October 21, 2019. That is 3 years, 4 months, 13 days excluding the election date or 1230 days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
?Impact Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 Harper left them a 7.5 billion dollar surplus which they turned into a 30 billion dollar deficit, in a matter of hours it seems. We all know the fairy tales that Oliver used to tell. I suggest you read the Parliamentary Budget Office report of November 10, 2015 that looked at the budget based on the old Harper model (ie. not looking at the new Liberal government programs). It stated: 2015-16 - $1.2 billion surplus 2016-17 - $3.0 billion deficit 2017-18 - $4.7 billion deficit 2018-19 - $5.0 billion deficit 2019-20 - $4.6 billion deficit 2020-21 - $4.2 billion deficit This is the baseline to which the Liberal performance should be measured. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 We all know the fairy tales that Oliver used to tell. I suggest you read the Parliamentary Budget Office report of November 10, 2015 that looked at the budget based on the old Harper model (ie. not looking at the new Liberal government programs). It stated: 2015-16 - $1.2 billion surplus 2016-17 - $3.0 billion deficit 2017-18 - $4.7 billion deficit 2018-19 - $5.0 billion deficit 2019-20 - $4.6 billion deficit 2020-21 - $4.2 billion deficit This is the baseline to which the Liberal performance should be measured. And even that was with a rosier economic forecast than reality has shown so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Guy Posted June 9, 2016 Report Share Posted June 9, 2016 We all know the fairy tales that Oliver used to tell. I suggest you read the Parliamentary Budget Office report of November 10, 2015 that looked at the budget based on the old Harper model (ie. not looking at the new Liberal government programs). It stated: 2015-16 - $1.2 billion surplus 2016-17 - $3.0 billion deficit 2017-18 - $4.7 billion deficit 2018-19 - $5.0 billion deficit 2019-20 - $4.6 billion deficit 2020-21 - $4.2 billion deficit This is the baseline to which the Liberal performance should be measured. Perhaps - but it is based on a $45 barrel of oil and and GST at 5%. Oil goes to $65 and GST raised to 7% (where it was before this economy started to tank) and we have a balanced budget by 2017 and surpluses after. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topaz Posted June 10, 2016 Report Share Posted June 10, 2016 Where is this 7.5 billion the Tories supposedly left the Liberals? The following chart says other wise which is 1.9 Bil. but they are still out 12 Billion from which they started from. http://www.cbc.ca/news/multimedia/canada-s-deficits-and-surpluses-1963-to-2015-1.3042571 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIK Posted June 10, 2016 Report Share Posted June 10, 2016 My mistake topaz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topaz Posted June 12, 2016 Report Share Posted June 12, 2016 My mistake topaz. That's ok, no problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topaz Posted June 12, 2016 Report Share Posted June 12, 2016 I do think the the liberals could find themselves in a mess with the "right to die" law. I agree with the Senate results but I don't think Justin agrees with it. There could also be a problem with sending 1000 troops to Europe for training, Russian isn't a problem for Canada yet, so why get involve, the US is pushing this. Was Russian one of GW's axis of evil? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIK Posted June 13, 2016 Report Share Posted June 13, 2016 I wish Dion would quit this Canada is back. He looked stupid when he says it. He tries to look tough but tough is something he is not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIK Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 Well his most senior foreign affairs advisor just quit. Quitting this early tells me he is not impressed with the route they are taking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Squid Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 Well his most senior foreign affairs advisor just quit. Quitting this early tells me he is not impressed with the route they are taking. Doesn't sound even remotely like he was unhappy. http://ottawacitizen.com/news/politics/top-trudeau-foreign-policy-advisor-roland-paris-heading-back-to-university-of-ottawa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldo Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 Well his most senior foreign affairs advisor just quit. Quitting this early tells me he is not impressed with the route they are taking. oh PIK! The guy was on leave from uOttawa... an academic returning, as planned, to his tenured position to begin teaching again within the fall semester. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 (edited) oh PIK! The guy was on leave from uOttawa... an academic returning, as planned, to his tenured position to begin teaching again within the fall semester. Sounds like quitting to me. Why would you work for a government if you were just going back to your old job a few months later. Edited June 14, 2016 by Boges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldo Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 Sounds like quitting to me. Why would you work for a government if you were just going back to your old job a few months later. that's right... you go with another fabrication... cause you can! What part of still being an active employee of uOttawa are you choosing to ignore? What part of the guy being on a leave given to him by his employer (uOttawa) are you choosing to ignore? What part of tenure associated with ranked academia are you choosing to ignore? What part of the guy being an academic are you choosing to ignore? . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 that's right... you go with another fabrication... cause you can! What part of still being an active employee of uOttawa are you choosing to ignore? What part of the guy being on a leave given to him by his employer (uOttawa) are you choosing to ignore? What part of tenure associated with ranked academia are you choosing to ignore? What part of the guy being an academic are you choosing to ignore? Nothing. . . but he's also not working for JT anymore. Did he take leave from working for JT as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldo Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 Nothing. . . but he's also not working for JT anymore. Did he take leave from working for JT as well? feeling the JT burn, hey? . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIK Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 People jumping ship already, broken promises and what he did not break he broke and another 3 1/2 yrs to go. You are going to be a busy man waldo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 People jumping ship already, Remind me how many communications directors Harper went through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 People are still solidly behind Trudeau and the reason is that there is no alternative right now. Both the CPC and NDP are waiting for new leaders. That's one reason, sure, but I think there's another major problem. The fantasy of Trudeau as having a moral high ground and a progressive heart could be shattered in an instant if the opposition spent more time criticizing the fact that Trudeau chooses to foster the arms trade. Our government is arming radicals who violate fundamental human rights. Where is the NDP on this? They're more concerned with Trudeau bumping into Ruth Ellen Brosseau's tit than the fact that the equipment we are selling to Saudis will be used to murder innocent people and crush democratic protests. And the CPC? How are they going to criticize Trudeau for going through with a deal that they crafted themselves? The NDP is a joke under Mulcair, more concerned with petty politics than championing real issues. The Liberals are morally bankrupt and Trudeau is a wolf in sheep's clothing. Yet, he will continue to enjoy record level of support because there is literally no one to hold him accountable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BC_chick Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 The fantasy of Trudeau as having a moral high ground and a progressive heart could be shattered in an instant if the opposition spent more time criticizing the fact that Trudeau chooses to foster the arms trade. Our government is arming radicals who violate fundamental human rights. Where is the NDP on this? They're more concerned with Trudeau bumping into Ruth Ellen Brosseau's tit than the fact that the equipment we are selling to Saudis will be used to murder innocent people and crush democratic protests. And the CPC? How are they going to criticize Trudeau for going through with a deal that they crafted themselves? The NDP is a joke under Mulcair, more concerned with petty politics than championing real issues. The Liberals are morally bankrupt and Trudeau is a wolf in sheep's clothing. Yet, he will continue to enjoy record level of support because there is literally no one to hold him accountable. The Saudi deal is disgusting. Not only for their human rights abuses, but the Wahhabis fund terrorist organization all around the world. This is one of the rabbit hole paradoxes where we are funding and arming people who we then fight. There is nothing progressive about this and coupled with his pipeline stances and corporate tax rates, I think it's absurd that he presents himself as progressive. Agreed 100%. It's also ironic that conservatives hate him so much. He really is a wolf in sheep's clothing... well said. People are still solidly behind Trudeau and the reason is that there is no alternative right now. Both the CPC and NDP are waiting for new leaders. That's one reason, sure, but I think there's another major problem. Yes again. I've been saying this for a long time. It's a one person show right now. Also to add - if I answer the phone and I'm asked if I approve of JT I would give a yes too. After 9 years of Harper, it's going to be a very long honeymoon. Anything he does is still better than Harper. It doesn't mean he's good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 It's such a stupid question too. Do I approve of HIM? He doesn't matter. His policies do. Do I approve of his policies? Which ones? Do they expect the same answer for all of them? I have to accept them wholesale or not at all? It's just another way we boil complex issues down to dross. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIK Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 He looked foolish against Rona ,over the genocide motion. He needs the UN to tell him what to do. Just like the arctic, where he said what the UN says about the borders is fine with him. And then by buying super hornets, it seems we could lose the arctic, to everyone else that has stealth fighters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldo Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 He looked foolish against Rona ,over the genocide motion. He needs the UN to tell him what to do. Just like the arctic, where he said what the UN says about the borders is fine with him. And then by buying super hornets, it seems we could lose the arctic, to everyone else that has stealth fighters. your posts continue to be your anecdotal reminisces that provide no accountability... for you... and provide no reference for others to question/challenge you on. Clearly, you like it that way! . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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