Canadians Solidly Behind Justin Trudeau

[ReeferMadness]

Awww, this is gonna hurt all those Trudeau haters on MLW. The latest Ekos poll shows Canadians haven't been this happy about their government since 2001. Among the findings:

- Confidence in the country is 61% (20 points higher than under Harper)

- Trudeau's personal popularity is at 64%

- If an election was held today, 46% of respondents would vote Liberal

- Elizabeth May has a smoking 78% approval rating

All those Conservative voters sitting in the corner licking their wounds won't like this one very much.

Edited December 14, 2015 by Charles Anthony
corrected spelling of Harper's name and title

[Guest]

Strangely enough I'm okay with it. May's numbers surprise me though. She's a clown.

Edited December 14, 2015 by bcsapper

[ReeferMadness]

Strangely enough I'm okay with it. May's numbers surprise me though. She's a clown.

Guess you're one of the other 22%

[Guest]

Guess you're one of the other 22%

I've always gone against the grain...

[-1=e^ipi]

People support who the media tells them to support.

Kim Jong Un has even higher popularity ratings that Justin Trudeau. And both are part of family dynasties.

[Derek 2.0]

Kim Jong Un has even higher popularity ratings that Justin Trudeau. And both are part of family dynasties.

In my mind, you just won the internet.......in the weeks after 9/11, President Bush held the highest approval rating in US polling history, besting Truman at the close of the second world war.........this begs the question, what is Trudeau doing wrong

[On Guard for Thee]

People support who the media tells them to support.

Kim Jong Un has even higher popularity ratings that Justin Trudeau. And both are part of family dynasties.

Trudeau has 60% approval. When was the last tie you saw that?

[Topaz]

In my mind, you just won the internet.......in the weeks after 9/11, President Bush held the highest approval rating in US polling history, besting Truman at the close of the second world war.........this begs the question, what is Trudeau doing wrong

The reason behind that is the people were still in shock of what happen and the truth of 9/11 hadn't come out yet

[Rue]

Reefer you have any idea how absurd it is to quote a poll? You going to be quoting the poll in a year when it slides? You have any idea how useless and meaningless a popularity poll is? Obama had the same high polls when he started, so did George Bush, Harper, etc.

Are you suggesting something? What? You really want to put stock on a popularity poll? This is how you define life? O.k.

Now me I am not part of any 22% or 60% or any thing else you want to label. I am one person telling you if you think these polls meen diddle swat good for you.

[Hydraboss]

64% is weak...

http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/22/europe/russia-putin-poll/

Let me know when he gets a REAL approval rating.

[Argus]

Guess you're one of the other 22%

Those who actually familiarize themselves with the issues are always in the minority.

[Accountability Now]

Those who actually familiarize themselves with the issues are always in the minority.

No kidding. Its easy to be popular with the school kids when you're handing out candy all day. It will be interesting to see how popular he is when the price tag comes in for all of his purchases/promises.

[Keepitsimple]

Trudeau has 60% approval. When was the last tie you saw that?

Not since Rob Ford at 70%.......

Link: http://news.nationalpost.com/posted-toronto/rob-fords-approval-rating-at-70-poll

[ReeferMadness]

Those who actually familiarize themselves with the issues are always in the minority.

No kidding. Its easy to be popular with the school kids when you're handing out candy all day. It will be interesting to see how popular he is when the price tag comes in for all of his purchases/promises.

Familiarize themselves with the issues? Easy to be popular? :lol: Are you SERIOUSLY suggesting that the Harper regime provided good government? Have you already repressed your memory of the worst serial abuser of power in Canadian history? Let me remind you.

Under Stephen Harper, debate was shut down one hundred times in the 42nd Parliament – breaking all historical records by nearly 100%. Under Stephen Harper, we have had two quite illegitimate prorogations, unprecedented not only in Canada but in the entire Commonwealth. We have had the prime minister and his government found guilty of contempt – again unprecedented. The PMO has extended its reach to demand evidence be prepared by civil servants to buttress government policy. This abuse of the federal civil service is also unprecedented. I know of justice department lawyers that have been asked for their legal opinion with the added instruction “and this is what we want you to say.”

Parliamentary committees have been controlled by PMO with every vote on every amendment a whipped vote. That is how a bill like C-38, the omnibus budget bill of spring 2012, could move from First Reading to Royal Assent – all 440 pages of it, changing or repealing 70 different laws – without a single alteration. Witnesses before committee have been subjected to personal inquisitions if their testimony did not align with Conservative dogma. Again – unprecedented.

This is why Canadians are so happy to have a new government. It isn't that Trudeau is that great - it's that even a moderately competent, open, inclusive government looks amazing by comparison.

[Accountability Now]

Familiarize themselves with the issues? Easy to be popular? :lol: Are you SERIOUSLY suggesting that the Harper regime provided good government? Have you already repressed your memory of the worst serial abuser of power in Canadian history? Let me remind you.

Wow...a paper by Elizabeth May. And here I thought she would have nothing but good things to say.

Of course, speaking of Elizabeth May and your weak attempt to tie a poll to actual votes....you say Elizabeth May is at 78% approval....and how many votes would she get right now?

[Big Guy]

...you say Elizabeth May is at 78% approval....and how many votes would she get right now?

I suggest that it would depend on who she is running against.

[Keepitsimple]

He should enjoy the ratings and adoration while he can - the realities of governing are coming swiftly. Better to under-promise and over-achieve - but this government went over the top on promises. On his main promises, Trudeau seems poised to have them blown to smithereens. Refugees that won't arrive for over a year (don't be fooled by the bait-and-switch counting of privately sponsored refugees - most of the recent ones being initiated under the previous government). Deficits that will blow past the $10 billion (don't be fooled by the bait and switch Debt-to-GDP ratio). How about the Canada-is-back on the Climate stage? We seem to be sticking to the Harper commitment of 30% reduction from 2005 levels by 2030 - and we won't go further than Alberta's recent legislation. Let's see where we end up with a commitment to fulfill every recommendation of the T & R committee. And when all the costs start rolling in?

"Sunny ways". Forecast: cloudy with a chance of showers.

[Smallc]

Refugees that won't arrive for over a year (don't be fooled by the bait-and-switch counting of privately sponsored refugees - most of the recent ones being initiated under the previous government).

These things are always about perspective. Conservatives lack any when it come to Trudeau, for some reason. The refugees will not arrive per their verbal timeline. Their actual promise, on paper, was in the coming months. The reality (the important reality in this case) is that the 25K refugees will arrive as promised and that there has been extra allowance for security, as many Conservatives had desired.

Deficits that will blow past the $10 billion (don't be fooled by the bait and switch Debt-to-GDP ratio).

The Debt to GDP ratio was always talked about in regards to the deficits. It's unfortunate that they will have to be bigger, but it's either that or break their signature promises on infrastructure, aboriginal education, and the RCN.

How about the Canada-is-back on the Climate stage? We seem to be sticking to the Harper commitment of 30% reduction from 2005 levels by 2030

That is, as the government stated, the floor. This government believes that the provinces should all contribute but should be able to do chart their own course. For Manitoba this means electric buses, cap and trade, more clean power. What it seems to mean is no federal carbon tax.

Let's see where we end up with a commitment to fulfill every recommendation of the T & R committee. And when all the costs start rolling in?

Everyone knows I don't like the status quo - not at all. That said, we're keeping the status quo. That means we're going to have to make the best of it. That means placating the aboriginal population and making them contributing members of society. The way forward within the status quo is the recommendations of the TRC.

[overthere]

The only promise that matters is "electoral reform".

Trudeau wll ride the tide to get that passed, then he won't have to care about any polls, ever.

[Smallc]

The only promise that matters is "electoral reform".

Trudeau will ride the tide to get that passed, then he won't have to care about any polls, ever.

Other parties will adapt to whatever we happen to adopt.

[dialamah]

On his main promises, Trudeau seems poised to have them blown to smithereens. Refugees that won't arrive for over a year (don't be fooled by the bait-and-switch counting of privately sponsored refugees - most of the recent ones being initiated under the previous government)

This keeps getting repeated, but it's hardly a valid objection. The previous government had 10,000 waiting in the wings; Trudeau added 15,000 to that number. And a refugee is a refugee is a refugee; government or private sponsored is irrelevant. The only remotely valid point you make is that he over-promised on getting all 25,000 in by Christmas.

[Smallc]

This keeps getting repeated, but it's hardly a valid objection. The previous government had 10,000 waiting in the wings; Trudeau added 15,000 to that number. And a refugee is a refugee is a refugee; government or private sponsored is irrelevant. The only remotely valid point you make is that he over-promised on getting all 25,000 in by Christmas.

Actually, it seems Trudeau has added 25,000 to that number. They talk about bringing in 35,000 total by December 31st, 2016.

[Keepitsimple]

This keeps getting repeated, but it's hardly a valid objection. The previous government had 10,000 waiting in the wings; Trudeau added 15,000 to that number. And a refugee is a refugee is a refugee; government or private sponsored is irrelevant. The only remotely valid point you make is that he over-promised on getting all 25,000 in by Christmas.

It keeps getting repeated because people like yourself keep getting it wrong. Yes - 10,000 privately-sponsored refugees were mostly in the wings and being prepared to come to Canada throughout 2016. Trudeau promised 25,000 government-sponsored refugees by the end of the year - now Feb. 28. So that means 35,000 refugees in total. Lets just wait and see how many make it here by end of February. It's tiring to see how this government keeps moving the goal posts.

[-1=e^ipi]

No kidding. Its easy to be popular with the school kids when you're handing out candy all day. It will be interesting to see how popular he is when the price tag comes in for all of his purchases/promises.

Nah, he'll keep borrowing for the next decade or so, and then leave it to future generations.

[dialamah]

Actually, it seems Trudeau has added 25,000 to that number. They talk about bringing in 35,000 total by December 31st, 2016.

I haven't seen that, do you have a cite?

It keeps getting repeated because people like yourself keep getting it wrong. Yes - 10,000 privately-sponsored refugees were mostly in the wings and being prepared to come to Canada throughout 2016. Trudeau promised 25,000 government-sponsored refugees by the end of the year - now Feb. 28. So that means 35,000 refugees in total. Lets just wait and see how many make it here by end of February. It's tiring to see how this government keeps moving the goal posts.

Looks like I may have been wrong about the total number, and the platform itself doesn't specify a time, while the letter to the minister says "in the coming months". Still, that doesn't jive with the verbal promise, so I guess I am corrected.