dialamah Posted December 2, 2015 Report Posted December 2, 2015 On Gandhi showing up to meet His Majesty King Edward VII of England in just a loincloth, a reporter wondered aloud if this was disrespectful to the king. Gandhi replied simply, "The King was wearing enough for the both of us." I wonder how Putin might respond to PT showing up for a meeting in a loincloth? Or even in something off-the-rack from the Bay. Or having whatever kind of entertainment heads of government have in Ottawa, and PT saying "Yes, we rented this Holiday Inn ballroom special for this gala, cause the people of Canada objected to my having a suitable home for such events". We'd look like we didn't give two figs for our PM. Quote
The_Squid Posted December 2, 2015 Report Posted December 2, 2015 I'm embarrassed to be a Canadian. Were you disgusted with the Duffy scandal and Harper, or just with hiring a nanny? You are embarrassed very easily. It's just a nanny... no one bribed a Senator... no one is paying a TV crew to film propaganda "24/7"... Quote
Disgusted Don Posted December 2, 2015 Report Posted December 2, 2015 When is the last time the regular Canadian looked after three children..REALLY..How about three to four children and an aging Mother and father! Perhaps you should get in touch with the average Canadian!!! Those of you to ignorant to understand normal Canadian challenges should log off! Justin is abusing his platform as HE presented it! He's is lying to Canadians. Forget about the previous government & their approach...His government has to be governed by their promises of change and transparency. Not by ignorance and complacency of the Canadian ignorant! He made promises and we have discovered within less the 30 days of taking office that his platform was a complete lie! Canada needs to demand his resignation!!! Quote
The_Squid Posted December 2, 2015 Report Posted December 2, 2015 When is the last time the regular Canadian looked after three children..REALLY..How about three to four children and an aging Mother and father! Perhaps you should get in touch with the average Canadian!!! Those of you to ignorant to understand normal Canadian challenges should log off! Justin is abusing his platform as HE presented it! He's is lying to Canadians. Forget about the previous government & their approach...His government has to be governed by their promises of change and transparency. Not by ignorance and complacency of the Canadian ignorant! He made promises and we have discovered within less the 30 days of taking office that his platform was a complete lie! Canada needs to demand his resignation!!! Transparency? It's not like they tried to hide this... So, by your response, I have to assume you weren't as enraged about your tax dollars when Harper was in power... why not? He ran the biggest budget deficit in Canadian history and yet still had a full time chef for himself. As Argus says... shouldn't his wife have been cooking his meals? She wasn't even working! Imagine that.... his stay-at-home wife had a full-time chef paid for by taxpayers! Quote
Wilber Posted December 2, 2015 Report Posted December 2, 2015 (edited) Specifically, what part of the platform? He is still expected to end the UCCB which means that he will also be out that money. He is expected to end the family tax cut which means that he will not save that $2,000. He is expected to raise the top rate to 33% which means he will have some income taxed at that rate. His CTB changes will mean that his income is too high to receive any of those benefits. When did he say that he would not have the assistance of a personal chef, maid service, maintenance services or nannies? It's part of the pay package. The pay package is ridiculously underpaid and has been for a long period of time regardless of which @$$hole is in power. So, Trudeau should revamp the rules - increase the pay package and pay for the nannies out of his own pocket. He should also increase the child care limit deductions for all taxpayers up to a higher level. Until that time, he can work within the existing rules because it is appropriate and life is not "fair" so so sad, too bad. CBC "In these times, Mr. Harper's top priority is to give wealthy families like his and mine $2,000," Trudeau said in reference to the Conservatives' income-splitting tax credit. "Let me tell you something: We don't need it. And Canada can't afford it." Trudeau is also entitled to collect annual UCCB payments of about $3,400 for his three children. . So he is going to give up $2000 in tax credits and $3400 in UCCB payments and then collect how much in two employees salary instead? What an incredible sacrifice on his part. BTW, everyone else in his tax bracket will be in the same boat and get nothing back in return. Ottawa Citizen Even though the two women worked as nannies when Trudeau was only leader of the third party, the PMO maintains that child-care is only part of their jobs providing “assistance” at the residence. He could afford them as an MP and party leader but not as PM? Edited December 2, 2015 by Wilber Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
Smallc Posted December 2, 2015 Report Posted December 2, 2015 Whether or not he can afford them is irrelevant. Quote
overthere Posted December 2, 2015 Report Posted December 2, 2015 If Harper wants to sue us for that money, go ahead. Or ... We could sue Mulroney to pay back the money for his nannies-disguised-as-maids. Who the hell leave their kids with maids untrained and unscreened for child care? Nobody. . I see. One woman -Ms Gregoire-Trudeau- is gladly provided with free child care by taxpayers. Ms Teskey-Hrper is denied pay for exactly the same work and advised to sue to get a penny. Your hatred for women is disquieting. Quote Science too hard for you? Try religion!
overthere Posted December 2, 2015 Report Posted December 2, 2015 Oh and just to display my creds, I am a white male that has looked after my own children for significant periods while my spouse furthered her career. It was a family decision and the right one. I was unpaid. I loved it. Quote Science too hard for you? Try religion!
Big Guy Posted December 2, 2015 Report Posted December 2, 2015 Oh and just to display my creds, I am a white male that has looked after my own children for significant periods while my spouse furthered her career. It was a family decision and the right one. I was unpaid. I loved it. Of which country were you the Prime Minister? Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
overthere Posted December 2, 2015 Report Posted December 2, 2015 If is is a 24/7 job being a nanny for the Trudeaus so they can both get their vital work done, then these two are severely overworked, exploited even. What with weekends, shiftwork, training periods, time off for sickness, and vacations you need about six people at least to cover all the shifts. And they need a living wage, becuase this is 2015. Quote Science too hard for you? Try religion!
overthere Posted December 2, 2015 Report Posted December 2, 2015 Of which country were you the Prime Minister? I'm just answering jacee, who keeps asking who has actually worked looking after small kids- anybody who has not is not permitted to speak. . I put my hand up. How about you? Quote Science too hard for you? Try religion!
capricorn Posted December 2, 2015 Report Posted December 2, 2015 Picking up the tab for rich boy Trudeau's servants because his wife doesn't feel like looking after the kids is another thing entirely. One word. OINK. Canada The Liberals are back! Quote "We always want the best man to win an election. Unfortunately, he never runs." Will Rogers
Wilber Posted December 2, 2015 Report Posted December 2, 2015 Whether or not he can afford them is irrelevant. Apparently so is what he said during the election campaign. Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
msj Posted December 2, 2015 Report Posted December 2, 2015 (edited) . So he is going to give up $2000 in tax credits and $3400 in UCCB payments and then collect how much in two employees salary instead? What an incredible sacrifice on his part. BTW, everyone else in his tax bracket will be in the same boat and get nothing back in return. He is giving up those benefits just like he said he would. As for everyone else - well, a CEO can certainly request compensation for a chef, maid, and nannies and may even receive this as part of the pay package. I would hope that at least part of the nannies pay would be included in Trudeau's income as a taxable benefit but not privy to that info and don't care enough to do the information request. It comes with the office per the rules that Harper, Chretien, Mulroney, etc have been under. Life isn't fair, get over it. He could afford them as an MP and party leader but not as PM? He cannot afford the time and neither can Sophie who is otherwise working for us for free. Once again, life isn't fair, so sad, too bad, but at least she gets some nannies. Edited December 2, 2015 by msj Quote If a believer demands that I, as a non-believer, observe his taboos in the public domain, he is not asking for my respect but for my submission. And that is incompatible with a secular democracy. Flemming Rose (Dutch journalist) My biggest takeaway from economics is that the past wasn't as good as you remember, the present isn't as bad as you think, and the future will be better than you anticipate. Morgan Housel http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2016/01/14/things-im-pretty-sure-about.aspx
jacee Posted December 2, 2015 Report Posted December 2, 2015 (edited) I see. One woman -Ms Gregoire-Trudeau- is gladly provided with free child care by taxpayers. Ms Teskey-Hrper is denied pay for exactly the same work and advised to sue to get a penny. Your hatred for women is disquieting. Ms T-H wasn't denied.Harper didn't ask. They probably let the untrained unscreened "maids" look after the kids occasionally, like Mulroney. I wonder who did the Harpers' child care when LH was working, before she gave it up? . Edited December 2, 2015 by jacee Quote
Moonlight Graham Posted December 2, 2015 Report Posted December 2, 2015 I wonder how Putin might respond to PT showing up for a meeting in a loincloth? Or even in something off-the-rack from the Bay. Or having whatever kind of entertainment heads of government have in Ottawa, and PT saying "Yes, we rented this Holiday Inn ballroom special for this gala, cause the people of Canada objected to my having a suitable home for such events". We'd look like we didn't give two figs for our PM. Who cares what Putin thinks. There's many nice ballrooms out there, you don't have to have a party in a cheap hotel. Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
capricorn Posted December 2, 2015 Report Posted December 2, 2015 You seem to hate Mulroney with a passion. Why on earth would you drag up something you say he did in order to justify something Trudeau is doing? Very strange. Any time now, the name Karlheinz Schreiber will enter the discussion. Quote "We always want the best man to win an election. Unfortunately, he never runs." Will Rogers
Big Guy Posted December 2, 2015 Report Posted December 2, 2015 I'm just answering jacee, who keeps asking who has actually worked looking after small kids- anybody who has not is not permitted to speak. . I put my hand up. How about you? I never made it to Prime Minister either. Says something about the electorate. I have always believed in: "“Before you criticize a man, walk a mile in his shoes. That way, when you do criticize him, you'll be a mile away and have his shoes.” ― Steve Martin Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
The_Squid Posted December 2, 2015 Report Posted December 2, 2015 (edited) Any time now, the name Karlheinz Schreiber will enter the discussion. Pointing out that PMs in the past had nannies is completely relevant.Perhaps Schreiber was the nanny.... hence the bags of money? Edited December 2, 2015 by The_Squid Quote
Keepitsimple Posted December 2, 2015 Report Posted December 2, 2015 Such a small, silly thing. He could re-enforce his election platform/promises by saying that "Cabinet administration put that process in place.....now that it's been brought to my attention, I've fixed it. As I've been saying all along, people like myself don't need the taxpayers to fund their childcare - and setting that example starts at the top." And that would be the end of the story. Not doing so builds on the narrative I spoke of (arrogance, privilege, recklessness) - and leaves Trudeau vulnerable to an attack ad - perhaps this time from the NDP. Quote Back to Basics
jacee Posted December 2, 2015 Report Posted December 2, 2015 You never actually told me what she does for a living as the PM's wife as required by her position that would even require payment. Second, why should we pay Justin's half when he gets paid wealthy sums? That's my way of looking at it. I don't believe that women are solely responsible for child care. Each parent (in this age) is equally responsible for child care. He can't do his half because working for us takes up too much of his time. So his half should be paid by us because our rather outrageous demands don't allow him to do it himself. . Quote
Wilber Posted December 2, 2015 Report Posted December 2, 2015 (edited) He is giving up those benefits just like he said he would [/quote Del Edited December 2, 2015 by Wilber Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
jacee Posted December 2, 2015 Report Posted December 2, 2015 I'm just answering jacee, who keeps asking who has actually worked looking after small kids- anybody who has not is not permitted to speak. . I put my hand up. How about you? Well then you have some credibility. But your comment about me hating women was out of line, ridiculous. I'm still waiting to hear from Argus. He's run away! Lol . Quote
Wilber Posted December 2, 2015 Report Posted December 2, 2015 He is giving up those benefits just like he said he would And transferring the salaries of two personal employees to the public purse in return. Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
Martin Chriton Posted December 2, 2015 Report Posted December 2, 2015 So his half should be paid by us because our rather outrageous demands don't allow him to do it himself. . If you followed the election he suggested that those with 200k+ incomes don't need help from the public for childcare. There are many at 200k+ that work longer hours than he does as PM and are expected to pay their 'fair' share of taxes and cover their own childcare costs under his plan. Also, are you suggesting he should only bill 1/2 these costs? If so, it looks like you also have concerns with tax payers fully funding his nannies. Quote
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