cybercoma Posted October 15, 2015 Report Share Posted October 15, 2015 One of Trudeau's campaign co-chairs has stepped down after advising TransCanada how to lobby the next government, including advice on lobbying a potential Liberal minority. He's not a registered lobbyist and the emails at this point seem to be all legal, but this is the kind of news that could derail the Liberals just before election day.http://globalnews.ca/news/2277153/trudeau-adviser-steps-down-after-giving-pipeline-company-lobbying-advice/?hootPostID=a623af75b6a4d1a0be52d0a5ad633747 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted October 15, 2015 Report Share Posted October 15, 2015 I don't think it'll be that big of a deal. I guess it's possible that some NDP voters deciding to vote Liberal might have second thoughts. I'm sure Mulcair will try to play it up as much as possible over the next few days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted October 15, 2015 Report Share Posted October 15, 2015 Just as it should. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted October 15, 2015 Report Share Posted October 15, 2015 I don't think it'll matter much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted October 15, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2015 It could strangely have the effect of Conservative voters defecting for the Liberals and social democrat voters leaving the Liberals for the NDP. This kind of news could actually put Harper in third place if the NDP gets a bump and more red tories head to the Liberal camp. Very unlikely, but it would certainly be an amusing outcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted October 15, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2015 And here's how the Tories capitalize on it.https://twitter.com/althiaraj/status/654451377893040128 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReeferMadness Posted October 15, 2015 Report Share Posted October 15, 2015 Conservatives issue a news release saying Trudeau doesn't represent change, cites his co-campaign manager's actions. Sounds like he's saying that the Libs are just as bad as the Cons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angrypenguin Posted October 15, 2015 Report Share Posted October 15, 2015 I'm glad this happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Posted October 15, 2015 Report Share Posted October 15, 2015 And here's how the Tories capitalize on it. https://twitter.com/althiaraj/status/654451377893040128 He's right, but I doubt it will get much traction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
socialist Posted October 15, 2015 Report Share Posted October 15, 2015 (edited) The liberals are already salivating over lobby money Liberal Campaign Co-Chair Stepping Down. Edited October 15, 2015 by socialist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angrypenguin Posted October 15, 2015 Report Share Posted October 15, 2015 The liberals are already salivating over lobby money Liberal Campaign Co-Chair Stepping Down. huh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
socialist Posted October 15, 2015 Report Share Posted October 15, 2015 huh? Huh? Good response. Maybe try thinking about it for a minute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
socialist Posted October 15, 2015 Report Share Posted October 15, 2015 Sounds like he's saying that the Libs are just as bad as the Cons. Day in review: 1) LPC cochair caught lobbying Big Oil 2) LPC says "no big deal" 3) Cochair resigns 4) Cochair faces investigation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonlight Graham Posted October 15, 2015 Report Share Posted October 15, 2015 Wow the LPC hasn't even won anything yet and they're already lining up the lobbyists at their door. Same ol' Liberal scumbags. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueblood Posted October 15, 2015 Report Share Posted October 15, 2015 Im actually happy this got leaked as it shows this version of the lpc to be somewhat business friendly. Any pipeline is a good one as it allows us to get resources to market more efficiently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToadBrother Posted October 15, 2015 Report Share Posted October 15, 2015 Im actually happy this got leaked as it shows this version of the lpc to be somewhat business friendly. Any pipeline is a good one as it allows us to get resources to market more efficiently. I was thinking the same thing, and if I were feeling conspiratorial, I'd almost wonder if the whole thing was a bit of a ruse to convince energy companies that the Liberals aren't closing the taps. It's funny, because there was this Financial Post article today talking about how bad it would be for the energy sector if anyone but the Tories won. Between this in the questionable war of words between Trudeau and Suzuki, I have to wonder if we're being played a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueblood Posted October 15, 2015 Report Share Posted October 15, 2015 I was thinking the same thing, and if I were feeling conspiratorial, I'd almost wonder if the whole thing was a bit of a ruse to convince energy companies that the Liberals aren't closing the taps. It's funny, because there was this Financial Post article today talking about how bad it would be for the energy sector if anyone but the Tories won. Between this in the questionable war of words between Trudeau and Suzuki, I have to wonder if we're being played a bit. The libs wont close off the taps. Its in their interests to have these companies doing well which means an increase of tax revenue. It wont be as good for the energy sector as under the tories. Hopefully the energy sector can get some clarity when the libs are sworn in on how things are going to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToadBrother Posted October 15, 2015 Report Share Posted October 15, 2015 The libs wont close off the taps. Its in their interests to have these companies doing well which means an increase of tax revenue. It wont be as good for the energy sector as under the tories. Hopefully the energy sector can get some clarity when the libs are sworn in on how things are going to go. The energy sector is already preparing for the carbon tax, which I've said for some time is inevitable. While the NDP might have imposed a national tax, Trudeau is going to give the provinces a lot more leeway. The Tories should be happy that it isn't them who will have to put this policy in place to placate the Americans (seeing as it seems pretty likely that Clinton will win next year, and we'll still have to prove our Greeny worthiness). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldo Posted October 15, 2015 Report Share Posted October 15, 2015 Im actually happy this got leaked as it shows this version of the lpc to be somewhat business friendly. Any pipeline is a good one as it allows us to get resources to market more efficiently. a uhhh... purposeful tactical leak. Open for pipeline business baby! Oh wait..... carry on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Squid Posted October 15, 2015 Report Share Posted October 15, 2015 Business lobbyists look like they will be pulling Liberal strings.... Before the election is even over! That's pathetic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToadBrother Posted October 15, 2015 Report Share Posted October 15, 2015 Business lobbyists look like they will be pulling Liberal strings.... Before the election is even over! That's pathetic. No matter what the Tories may assert, Bay Street has always loved the Liberals best. But I do think this was a tactical leak, part of a plan of calming the markets and key industries as the likelihood of a Liberal government grows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Squid Posted October 15, 2015 Report Share Posted October 15, 2015 No matter what the Tories may assert, Bay Street has always loved the Liberals best.But I do think this was a tactical leak, part of a plan of calming the markets and key industries as the likelihood of a Liberal government grows. That's silly. The markets were not going to react to a Liberal win. This is the same old back room dealing Liberal Party.... Chrétien, Martin.... Ad-scam... Protect your own investments to the detriment of the country.... Same old, same old. I was actually hoping for something different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToadBrother Posted October 15, 2015 Report Share Posted October 15, 2015 That's silly. The markets were not going to react to a Liberal win. This is the same old back room dealing Liberal Party.... Chrétien, Martin.... Ad-scam... Protect your own investments to the detriment of the country.... Same old, same old. I was actually hoping for something different. Because the NDP weren't having behinds-the-scenes talks with captains of industry when they thought they had a chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Squid Posted October 15, 2015 Report Share Posted October 15, 2015 Because the NDP weren't having behinds-the-scenes talks with captains of industry when they thought they had a chance. Cite please. Where did NDP insiders working on the campaign lobby for business? You are as bad as the CPC partisan hacks that use the tired old mantra "well they did it too". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldo Posted October 15, 2015 Report Share Posted October 15, 2015 Business lobbyists look like they will be pulling Liberal strings.... Before the election is even over! That's pathetic. This is the same old back room dealing Liberal Party.... Chrétien, Martin.... Ad-scam... Protect your own investments to the detriment of the country.... Same old, same old. I was actually hoping for something different. in actuality... given established relationships, the guy was approached by Trans Canada... for information on how best they lobby in regards the 'Energy East pipeline'. The guy is was in a volunteer campaign position... and he's not a registered lobbyist. a quick search suggests the following as relatively recent/representative comments from the Liberal Party leader: Liberal Leader Justin Trudeau said he will not fully back TransCanada’s Energy East pipeline until the project gets more public support. “We need to get our resources to market and more oil by rail is a bad idea. We need to do it in a responsible way and that means pipelines. But those pipelines have to achieve the public trust and the social license that is necessary.” Trudeau said Monday in Fredericton. Trudeau said the regulatory process must be done right and is calling for more public consultation to address people’s environmental concerns regarding the safety of the pipeline. He also wants to see further consultation with First Nations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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