Go.Leafs Posted September 24, 2015 Report Posted September 24, 2015 (edited) I'm not talking about Harper, Mulroney, Martin or any one politician. I am talking about any and all politicians who uses their position to conceal felony crimes by having files sealed or investigations derailed, or refusing to fund an inquiry. Because they have authorities to control and manipulate investigative agencies and regulatory bodies and bureaus, they effectively can get away with a lot of graft and corruption. This is especially true when they can hand-pick the heads of these agencies who then run interference for them if their are "irregularites". So, since they have this unique ability to delay and derail investigations, should we not have a special law that eliminates he statute of limitations for their crimes, or at least do not start the clock until they leave office? A good example is the Schreiber scandal. Mulroney could not be criminally prosecuted because the statute of limitations expired. But we did not learn of the accusations for years because he made damn sure everything was so well hidden. I thnk such a law might make these pols realize that their impunity is only temporary and they might actually be held legally responsible for their criminal adventures - eventually. Politicians that are lawyers and know how to manuever the legal system and shop judges are even more likely to get away with super crimes. What do you guys think? Edited September 24, 2015 by Go.Leafs Quote
Michael Hardner Posted September 24, 2015 Report Posted September 24, 2015 "A good example is the Schreiber scandal. Mulroney could not be criminally prosecuted because the statute of limitations expired." Do you have some kind of link to back this up ? The scandal you mention wasn't "hidden" from us, and I don't remember the statute of limitations playing into this one. If it did, then it's a right that extends to all Canadians so this thread seems to ask for fewer rights for politicians. In any case, did this just come from your mind or is there a recent/relevant example to start the discussion ? Thanks. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
Go.Leafs Posted September 24, 2015 Author Report Posted September 24, 2015 Well Michael, you have peaked my interest and I have been finding some interesting stuff. For example Canada has passed some super strict laws that hammer people heavily for overseas bribes of foreign officials without statute of limitations but for domestic bribes everything becomes lenient and ambiguous. For some reason I cannot paste the links here. So just Google "Canada corruption statute of limitations for government officials". Quote
Michael Hardner Posted September 24, 2015 Report Posted September 24, 2015 For some reason I cannot paste the links here. Just PM me the links and I will post them then. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
Go.Leafs Posted September 25, 2015 Author Report Posted September 25, 2015 I still cannot paste links here for some reason gang but if you all just Google "Canada government corruption of officials statute of limitations" you will have quite a few surprises. It looks a sif the system protects itself from prosecution, Quote
Big Guy Posted September 25, 2015 Report Posted September 25, 2015 I still cannot paste links here for some reason ... I had the same problem, updated to Google Chrome and problem disappeared. Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
Not Yet Posted September 26, 2015 Report Posted September 26, 2015 (edited) Absolutely they should be prosecuted like anyone else. They are not above the law and I think they should start right here with this crime that has separated a Canadian family for six years, sheated over 100 Canadians out of $43 million and allowed over $1B of drugs to hit the streets of Canada http://www.opnlttr.com/letter/open-letter-amnesty-international-aclu-help-american-whistle-blower-reunite-canadian-family Prosecuting Harper and Rob Nicholson would send the right signal to the whole bunch of them that time does not erase their accountability. Anyone who doubts the story of the above link only needs to follow all the links and you will see major felonies taking place on Canadian soil by corrupt government officials with Harper and his predecessors deliberately turning a blind eye and probably being paid off for the their deliberate ignorance despite two insider witnesses writing him letters like this one http://2006bruce.blogspot.com Edited September 26, 2015 by Not Yet Quote
Go.Leafs Posted September 26, 2015 Author Report Posted September 26, 2015 Absolutely they should be prosecuted like anyone else. They are not above the law and I think they should start right here with this crime that has separated a Canadian family for six years, sheated over 100 Canadians out of $43 million and allowed over $1B of drugs to hit the streets of Canada http://www.opnlttr.com/letter/open-letter-amnesty-international-aclu-help-american-whistle-blower-reunite-canadian-family Prosecuting Harper and Rob Nicholson would send the right signal to the whole bunch of them that time does not erase their accountability. Anyone who doubts the story of the above link only needs to follow all the links and you will see major felonies taking place on Canadian soil by corrupt government officials with Harper and his predecessors deliberately turning a blind eye and probably being paid off for the their deliberate ignorance despite two insider witnesses writing him letters like this one http://2006bruce.blogspot.com I agree with you 20% but who would dare to accuse a sitting PM and his former Justice Minister of a felony crime? Any law enforcement officer who filed the charges would get a visit from Revenue Canada, be blackballed and transferred to the Yukon territories! Quote
ToadBrother Posted September 26, 2015 Report Posted September 26, 2015 Absolutely they should be prosecuted like anyone else. They are not above the law and I think they should start right here with this crime that has separated a Canadian family for six years, sheated over 100 Canadians out of $43 million and allowed over $1B of drugs to hit the streets of Canada http://www.opnlttr.com/letter/open-letter-amnesty-international-aclu-help-american-whistle-blower-reunite-canadian-family Prosecuting Harper and Rob Nicholson would send the right signal to the whole bunch of them that time does not erase their accountability. Anyone who doubts the story of the above link only needs to follow all the links and you will see major felonies taking place on Canadian soil by corrupt government officials with Harper and his predecessors deliberately turning a blind eye and probably being paid off for the their deliberate ignorance despite two insider witnesses writing him letters like this one http://2006bruce.blogspot.com You seem to be rather confused about the differences between the US and American legal systems. Quote
Maybe Posted September 29, 2015 Report Posted September 29, 2015 Of course they should be prosecuted. Everyone living in Canada is subject to the same laws - without exception (unless you are Rob Ford of course) Quote
Ask Your Mother Posted October 1, 2015 Report Posted October 1, 2015 What's the alternative? Should we pat them on the back and tell them "Great job on fooling us all - you win!" Give me one reason we should clobber them when caught to the full extent of the law? Quote
Gleason Posted October 3, 2015 Report Posted October 3, 2015 All Canadian citizens, regardless of their job titles need to be held accountable to the same laws. Likewise the punishments doled out to violators should also have equal parity. I think the only real question to ask is whether you let an official resign or finish their term before prosecution begins, especially when we think about the law that requires "presumption of innocence" (Innocent until proven guilty). Quote
Not Yet Posted October 5, 2015 Report Posted October 5, 2015 Upon second thought, I think pols should be punished even more harshly than others since they are abusing a position of trust. Maybe ad 20% to the normal fines and prison terms! Quote
Truth Or Dare Posted October 10, 2015 Report Posted October 10, 2015 Is there really any reason the answer could be "No"? Quote
Not Again Norman Posted October 12, 2015 Report Posted October 12, 2015 Wow I agree with Truth or Dare. I guess I will be banned as well for saying so? Quote
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