Scotty Posted September 10, 2015 Report Posted September 10, 2015 Oh let's see. Schoenberg killed his 3 children in bc Gosling killed gf and 3 kids in SK Janzen killed daughter, wife and sister in bc Would you like more stats of domestic killings in Canada committed by non Muslims. Are you really going to try and equate the individual acts of a few crazies, all of whom have been arrested for life, with the collective acts of large groups of people who kill in cold, deliberate blood to defend the family honor? None of whom have been punished by societies which don't give a damn? Are you so desperately desperate to defend the brutal, misogynistic cultures of the ME you're going to try to compare domestic killings in Canada with the widespread domestic abuse in countries like Afghanistan, Pakistan and Egypt?! It is an inverted moral calculus that tries to persuade the world to demonize one state that tries its civilized best to abide in a difficult time and place, and rides merrily by the examples and practices of dozens of states and leaderships that drop into brutality every day without a twinge of regret or a whisper of condemnation. - Rex Murphy
drummindiver Posted September 10, 2015 Report Posted September 10, 2015 Troll alert Troll alert No valuable content added Troll alert . lol I'll give you that one
cybercoma Posted September 10, 2015 Report Posted September 10, 2015 Oh look. Another conservative who can't read immigrant and refugee without mixing them up.
Smallc Posted September 10, 2015 Report Posted September 10, 2015 e.g., mutilating women's bodies by stuffing their breasts with silicone pouches, I'm pretty sure most women do that of free choice and such things have actually come about because of an increase in female independence and legal standing. I'd hope you could see the difference between that and FGM.
Scotty Posted September 10, 2015 Report Posted September 10, 2015 don't shyte your pants here... this is simply a waldoFactoid (per StatsCan): "On a regional basis, Asia (including the Middle East) remained Canada's largest source of immigrants between 2006 and 2011. Among all recent immigrants who arrived between 2006 and 2011, roughly 661,600 or 56.9% came from Asia (including the Middle East)." So? Do you really think I support that? The question is why do people who allegedly are in favour of gay rights and female equality support bringing in hundreds of thousands of people who violently oppose both those concepts to Canada? It is an inverted moral calculus that tries to persuade the world to demonize one state that tries its civilized best to abide in a difficult time and place, and rides merrily by the examples and practices of dozens of states and leaderships that drop into brutality every day without a twinge of regret or a whisper of condemnation. - Rex Murphy
waldo Posted September 10, 2015 Report Posted September 10, 2015 I'm not talking about immigrants. People who choose to move here and contribute are very different than refugees. I thought the whole premise of youse guys' screech was the cultural attachment! As a part of the "immigrant screening process", just how did that/your implied filtering work? .
Smallc Posted September 10, 2015 Report Posted September 10, 2015 many aspects of ME culture is draw you stumbling forward to frantically defend them and proclaim Canada is just as bad! Some of the women here (even men, actually) choose to get breast implants, therefore, we're never to criticize backwards cultural practices that would never be acceptable here.
waldo Posted September 10, 2015 Report Posted September 10, 2015 but but harper doesn't let immigrants in he's a big meany but but by your own numbers, that's over a million immigrants in just over 5 years not too shabby please sir... the concern over Harper's closed doors is with respect to refugees. Yeesh!
Scotty Posted September 10, 2015 Report Posted September 10, 2015 Um, I would refer you to a Canadian document known as the criminal code. Laws are written by governments which are elected by people. The more people in the electorate who support beating women and mutilating children, the more politicians they will vote into power, and the softer the laws against such practices will become. It is an inverted moral calculus that tries to persuade the world to demonize one state that tries its civilized best to abide in a difficult time and place, and rides merrily by the examples and practices of dozens of states and leaderships that drop into brutality every day without a twinge of regret or a whisper of condemnation. - Rex Murphy
cybercoma Posted September 10, 2015 Report Posted September 10, 2015 I'm pretty sure most women do that of free choice Ah yes. Free choice. You know some women in Africa say they choose to have FGM done too because it makes them a desirable mate. Why do you suppose women get implants?
Scotty Posted September 10, 2015 Report Posted September 10, 2015 Some of the women here (even men, actually) choose to get breast implants, therefore, we're never to criticize backwards cultural practices that would never be acceptable here. Because willingly getting breast implants to make yourself feel better about your appearance is the same as being forced to have your clitoris removed. It is an inverted moral calculus that tries to persuade the world to demonize one state that tries its civilized best to abide in a difficult time and place, and rides merrily by the examples and practices of dozens of states and leaderships that drop into brutality every day without a twinge of regret or a whisper of condemnation. - Rex Murphy
drummindiver Posted September 10, 2015 Report Posted September 10, 2015 please sir... the concern over Harper's closed doors is with respect to refugees. Yeesh! really? then we can shut down immigration? and no one on the left has complained about immigration?
cybercoma Posted September 10, 2015 Report Posted September 10, 2015 (edited) Because willingly getting breast implants to make yourself feel better about your appearance is the same as being forced to have your clitoris removed. Have you read anything about FGM beyond new articles condemning the practice? If you actually wanted to address the problem and stop the practice, you would find out WHY people do it. Nah. That would actually be productive. Let's just call them animals and have a big circlejerk about how progressive we are. Edited September 10, 2015 by cybercoma
On Guard for Thee Posted September 10, 2015 Report Posted September 10, 2015 Laws are written by governments which are elected by people. The more people in the electorate who support beating women and mutilating children, the more politicians they will vote into power, and the softer the laws against such practices will become. Now you're getting into tin hat territory.
Scotty Posted September 10, 2015 Report Posted September 10, 2015 Ah yes. Free choice. You know some women in Africa say they choose to have FGM done too because it makes them a desirable mate. Why do you suppose women get implants? A very small percentage of women in the West get breast implants because they have issues with self confidence and appearance. And it's essentially harmless and reversible. I doubt many were dragged off to a doctor when they were nine to have them shoved into their bodies against their will. Africa, and you mostly mean north Africa, where Islam is widespread, might do it because there is such a brutal, anti-female cultural attitude among the cultures there that they give into it. It means they can never really have any sexual pleasure, either through sex or masturbation. They surrender ever having any sexual pleasure because their cultures think that should only be for men. You cannot honestly equate this to a woman who gets implants. It is an inverted moral calculus that tries to persuade the world to demonize one state that tries its civilized best to abide in a difficult time and place, and rides merrily by the examples and practices of dozens of states and leaderships that drop into brutality every day without a twinge of regret or a whisper of condemnation. - Rex Murphy
Scotty Posted September 10, 2015 Report Posted September 10, 2015 (edited) Now you're getting into tin hat territory. Why? Are we not letting Muslims vote? Are their numbers not growing? Do a million voters have no impact on the culture or political views of a nation? What about two million? Five million? At what point do you think they'll begin to have any influence? They'll NEVER have any influence? Seriously? Is that your position? Edited September 10, 2015 by Scotty It is an inverted moral calculus that tries to persuade the world to demonize one state that tries its civilized best to abide in a difficult time and place, and rides merrily by the examples and practices of dozens of states and leaderships that drop into brutality every day without a twinge of regret or a whisper of condemnation. - Rex Murphy
drummindiver Posted September 10, 2015 Report Posted September 10, 2015 Ah yes. Free choice. You know some women in Africa say they choose to have FGM done too because it makes them a desirable mate. Why do you suppose women get implants? seriously, wtf is wrong with you? fgm is considered a human rights violation, and of course, here you are defending it, claiming women want it
drummindiver Posted September 10, 2015 Report Posted September 10, 2015 Now you're getting into tin hat territory. now he's stating the way shit works
Scotty Posted September 10, 2015 Report Posted September 10, 2015 Have you read anything about FGM beyond new articles condemning the practice? If you actually wanted to address the problem and stop the practice, you would find out WHY people do it. Nah. That would actually be productive. Let's just call them animals and have a big circlejerk about how progressive we are. I know why people do it. They do it because of an oppressive cultural view which says that female sexuality is evil and dangerous and causes nothing but trouble. That cultural view of female sexuality is prevalent throughout the Muslim world. The act itself, like child marriage, like domestic abuse, like honor killing, is merely an reflection of the cultural mindset behind it. You're willing to condemn the act but run like a terrified sheep at the thought of confronting the cultural mindset behind it. It is an inverted moral calculus that tries to persuade the world to demonize one state that tries its civilized best to abide in a difficult time and place, and rides merrily by the examples and practices of dozens of states and leaderships that drop into brutality every day without a twinge of regret or a whisper of condemnation. - Rex Murphy
On Guard for Thee Posted September 10, 2015 Report Posted September 10, 2015 Why? Are we not letting Muslims vote? Are their numbers not growing? Do a million voters have no impact on the culture or political views of a nation? What about two million? Five million? At what point do you think they'll begin to have any influence? They'll NEVER have any influence? Seriously? Is that your position? I'm not worried they will influence our laws in the ways you seem to be so worried about. To start with a lot of the people who come here do so because of the strength and fairness of the legal system we now have.
cybercoma Posted September 10, 2015 Report Posted September 10, 2015 seriously, wtf is wrong with you? fgm is considered a human rights violation, and of course, here you are defending it, claiming women want it I'm not defending it. It needs to end. I don't support it in any way shape or form. You and your ilk seem to have serious difficulty sussing out the difference between explaining things and defending them.
Scotty Posted September 10, 2015 Report Posted September 10, 2015 seriously, wtf is wrong with you? fgm is considered a human rights violation, and of course, here you are defending it, claiming women want it Yeah, I hadn't even caught that part of his post. Not that there might not be a few adult women who get it, pressured by society, but almost all FGM is done to little girls against their will. It is an inverted moral calculus that tries to persuade the world to demonize one state that tries its civilized best to abide in a difficult time and place, and rides merrily by the examples and practices of dozens of states and leaderships that drop into brutality every day without a twinge of regret or a whisper of condemnation. - Rex Murphy
On Guard for Thee Posted September 10, 2015 Report Posted September 10, 2015 now he's stating the way shit works We know how the tin hat shit works.
Scotty Posted September 10, 2015 Report Posted September 10, 2015 I'm not worried they will influence our laws in the ways you seem to be so worried about. To start with a lot of the people who come here do so because of the strength and fairness of the legal system we now have. And you know this how? I've interacted with a ton of newcomers to Canada and I have yet to meet anyone who came here because they admire our legal system. Every one I have met came here because we're a lot richer than where they came from and they hope to live in a big house and drive a big car, and have their kids live in an even bigger house and drive an even bigger car. It is an inverted moral calculus that tries to persuade the world to demonize one state that tries its civilized best to abide in a difficult time and place, and rides merrily by the examples and practices of dozens of states and leaderships that drop into brutality every day without a twinge of regret or a whisper of condemnation. - Rex Murphy
cybercoma Posted September 10, 2015 Report Posted September 10, 2015 I know why people do it. They do it because of an oppressive cultural view which says that female sexuality is evil and dangerous and causes nothing but trouble. That cultural view of female sexuality is prevalent throughout the Muslim world. And yet FGM isn't practiced throughout the Muslim world and the Muslim world has had more female heads of state than Canada and the US combined. Funny that. Oh but that's right. You would actually have to stop for a second and recognize that Islam is not a culture and that there are many cultures that practice Islam, as well as various sects of Islam across and within cultures. But don't let that stop you from continuing to imply that all Muslims are the same "mongrel culture of goat-herding sand people" (sorry, Argus's words not yours).
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