WestCoastRunner Posted July 7, 2015 Author Report Posted July 7, 2015 (edited) Trolls gonna troll.[/ Edited July 21, 2015 by WestCoastRunner Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
cybercoma Posted July 7, 2015 Report Posted July 7, 2015 Single moms can range from welfare queen crack addicts like my mother in law (must be the Irish in her)I'm so glad this forum allows racist garbage like this to exist. Oh, maybe Michael Hardner will be around to discuss the logic of your statement and have tea with you shortly. Quote
cybercoma Posted July 7, 2015 Report Posted July 7, 2015 It's no wonder women don't sign up to contribute to this forum.Because they don't want to sit in a room with neanderthals smearing their feces all over the walls and furniture? Quote
WestCoastRunner Posted July 7, 2015 Author Report Posted July 7, 2015 (edited) Because they don't want to sit in a room with neanderthals smearing their feces all over the walls and Edited July 21, 2015 by WestCoastRunner Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
Canada_First Posted July 7, 2015 Report Posted July 7, 2015 Because they don't want to sit in a room with neanderthals smearing their feces all over the walls and furniture? Or maybe they just have better things to do. Quote
Smallc Posted July 7, 2015 Report Posted July 7, 2015 I'm so glad this forum allows racist garbage like this to exist. Oh, maybe Michael Hardner will be around to discuss the logic of your statement and have tea with you shortly. Irish people are a race? Quote
cybercoma Posted July 7, 2015 Report Posted July 7, 2015 Irish people are a race? When the argument you made were originally made they were considered as such. Quote
Smallc Posted July 7, 2015 Report Posted July 7, 2015 When the argument you made were originally made they were considered as such. I didn't mean to offend. I was actually only joking. With all the negative things I hear about aboriginal people, I find it almost funny that it's the white side of my fiancées family that has so many...issues. Quote
WestCoastRunner Posted July 7, 2015 Author Report Posted July 7, 2015 (edited) I didn't mean to offend. I was actually only joking. With all the negative things I hear about aboriginal people, I find it almost funny that it's the white side of my fiancées family that has so many...issues.[/ Edited July 21, 2015 by WestCoastRunner Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
Smallc Posted July 7, 2015 Report Posted July 7, 2015 It's not funny when you are comparing the issues of your fiancées family with single moms. Again, what exactly was your point? Her mom was a single mom. Not all single moms are like her. That was my point, but you of course latched onto the negative piece. I didn't say anything about single mothers and have no opinion overall. I do have an opinion of people who use the system and live off of it. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted July 7, 2015 Report Posted July 7, 2015 Confessions of a Stay-at-Home-Mom in Canada: ....To conclude, we were both miserable and when I sat down to do the math, it turned out that we were further ahead by me staying home and staying on social assistance and her not going to daycare than me working at a minimum wage job. http://hubpages.com/hub/Confessions-of-a-Stay-at-Home-Mom-in-Canada-Making-Money-is-not-Easy Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
drummindiver Posted July 7, 2015 Report Posted July 7, 2015 And let's not forget applying for a Xmas care package so the kids can get a present and heading down to the food bank on a weekly basis. Oh yes These single moms look forward to these actions. Let's not forget that a lot of these single moms also work and still can't make ends meet without the food banks Because they have no financial support from the dads. Instead of welfare give them access to daycare and free education. It will be far less cheaper then welfare over the long term. ????? Uh, yeah. I had to work to save for my education. How much easier I would have had it to go on welfare to have ppl that actually worked pay for my education. Quote
drummindiver Posted July 7, 2015 Report Posted July 7, 2015 What friggin planet do you live on. Here on earth courts decide based on evidence around who is the primary care giver. That does tend to be the mother more often than not, especially with infants, for obvious reasons. Courts have already decided that the kids belong to the woman on planet earth. Quote
drummindiver Posted July 7, 2015 Report Posted July 7, 2015 That's not what I responded to. Single moms can range from welfare queen crack addicts like my mother in law (must be the Irish in her) to wealthy jet setters. lol The Irish in me takes offence, but I found it even funnier that Cybercoma took offence after he called American voters "selfish and ignorant cannibals". Ok to slander "Muricans", but not the Irish. Seems legit to me. Quote
cybercoma Posted July 7, 2015 Report Posted July 7, 2015 (edited) lol The Irish in me takes offence, but I found it even funnier that Cybercoma took offence after he called American voters "selfish and ignorant cannibals". Ok to slander "Muricans", but not the Irish. Seems legit to me. Ones who support maximum welfare limits and workfare certainly are and that's a lot different than saying someone's a drunk because it's in their Irish genes. Edited July 7, 2015 by cybercoma Quote
drummindiver Posted July 7, 2015 Report Posted July 7, 2015 (edited) Ones who support maximum welfare limits and workfare certainly are and that's a lot different than saying someone's a drunk because it's in their Irish genes. You did not qualify your statement as such. I still don't believe that ppl who support maximums and workfare are in the wrong. I guess I am a selfish cannibal. Either way, blanket statements against Americans are just as bigoted and wrong as blanket statements against the Irish, or any other people. edit/grammar Edited July 7, 2015 by drummindiver Quote
LesActive Posted July 7, 2015 Report Posted July 7, 2015 And let's not forget applying for a Xmas care package so the kids can get a present and heading down to the food bank on a weekly basis. Oh yes These single moms look forward to these actions. Let's not forget that a lot of these single moms also work and still can't make ends meet without the food banks Because they have no financial support from the dads. Instead of welfare give them access to daycare and free education. It will be far less cheaper then welfare over the long term. This makes me glad that some on here have decided to give a pass on the poisoned well. I have to wonder how busy this board would be had eugenics been implemented when it was thought to be a positive. You know, around the time that antiseptics were discovered, no workers rights groups existed, women were basically chattel, classism was obvious and the best hope for economic recovery was war. Yeah, those were the days. We wouldn't want a little thing like compassion to get in the way of the bottom line. Oh wait, some things never change. Quote A strange game. The only winning move is not to play. How about a nice game of chess?
LesActive Posted July 7, 2015 Report Posted July 7, 2015 I'm in that 10% and i'm not obscenely wealthy. In fact, the top 10% contribute nearly 60% of the government federal revenue. I think the bottom 10% would disagree with your self assessment but certainly the top 1% carry the bulk of the wealth. The bracket that you've chosen to be in is your own doing. Is your tax rate a licence to crap on the poor? You could have always earned less. Unrestrained egos have a habit of wanting more than they need. Quote A strange game. The only winning move is not to play. How about a nice game of chess?
cybercoma Posted July 7, 2015 Report Posted July 7, 2015 You did not qualify your statement as such. I figured people here could read well enough that I wouldn't need to. Quote
drummindiver Posted July 7, 2015 Report Posted July 7, 2015 I figured people here could read well enough that I wouldn't need to. When people use blanket statements to describe an entire nation of people it sometimes helps to qualify your comment. This has nothing to do with reading and comprehension skills, but rather communicating ideas in a pedantic way that is understandable. Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted July 7, 2015 Report Posted July 7, 2015 Courts have already decided that the kids belong to the woman on planet earth. So you know what courts are going to decide before they even hear a case. Man, you could put a lot of lawyers out of business. Quote
Hal 9000 Posted July 7, 2015 Report Posted July 7, 2015 (edited) I think the bottom 10% would disagree with your self assessment but certainly the top 1% carry the bulk of the wealth. The bracket that you've chosen to be in is your own doing. Is your tax rate a licence to crap on the poor? You could have always earned less. Unrestrained egos have a habit of wanting more than they need. This article is from 2005, so the numbers are a little outdated. The top 10% is now about $70k and top 5% are now at about $90k. The percent of revenue paid to the federal government is pretty much the same though. See link at bottom. Top 5% of income earners pay 39% of taxes The top 5% of income earners pay almost 40% of the money Ottawa collects in personal income taxes, according to new information from Statistics Canada. BY NATIONAL POST APRIL 27, 2005 STORY PHOTOS ( 1 ) The top 5% of income earners pay almost 40% of the money Ottawa collects in personal income taxes, according to new information from Statistics Canada. The federal statistics agency recently released a study showing the upper 10% of income earners in 2002 -- those who were paid more $64,500 -- provided 52.6% of the federal government's revenue from personal incomes taxes, up from 46% in 1990. Further data provided to the National Post shows the proportion of income tax paid is skewed even more for the top half of that 10%. People who earned more than $82,700 in 2002 -- the top 5% -- put 39.1% of the personal income-tax revenues in federal coffers. In 1990, that 5% paid 32.2% of total income taxes. That group also had the highest effective tax rate -- 17.69% in 2002, compared with an average rate of 11.18% for all those who paid income taxes. Craig Alexander, senior economist with TD Bank Financial Group, said the numbers are not surprising. "I would expect that if you were to cut the data even finer, and go from the top 5% to the top 1%, I think you'd find the trend is there -- that the proportional tax system creates a system where higher-income Canadians will pay a far greater percentage of the total government tax revenues." Mr. Alexander said it was "striking" that the study identifies the top 10% of earners as those who were paid more than $64,500 in 2002. "That is an eye-opening observation," he said, noting it raises the question of "whether or not the tax system is sufficiently discriminating if the top tax bracket is kicking in at such a low level." The Statistics Canada study noted people in the top 10% bracket saw the smallest drop in their effective tax rate between 1990 and 2002, while the share of federal taxes paid by people in the bottom 50% of income earners dropped substantially. The lower half of Canadian taxpayers accounted for 6.7% of federal taxes in 1990 and 4.4% in 2002. John Williamson, president of the Canadian Taxpayers Federation, said the rise in the tax burden on high-income earners is a result of "all the talk in Parliament about only reducing taxes for low- and middle-income Canadians." "No one is calling for relief for those people who really do fund the bulk of government programs and services," he said. "We have to get those top marginal rates down across the board, but that should mean we do not exclude the top earners." http://www41.statcan.gc.ca/2008/3868/ceb3868_002-eng.htm Edited July 7, 2015 by Hal 9000 Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
drummindiver Posted July 7, 2015 Report Posted July 7, 2015 So you know what courts are going to decide before they even hear a case. Man, you could put a lot of lawyers out of business. I don't, but statistics Canada has a pretty damn good idea. http://www.justice.gc.ca/eng/rp-pr/fl-lf/famil/stat2000/p4.html Custody Table 5 shows who received custody of the children and the type of contact that was maintained with the non-custodial parent in cases where the parents said they had a court order. Table 5: Court-Ordered Custody Arrangement, According to the Age of the Child at Separation and the Type of Broken Union-NLSCY, Cycle 1, 1994-1995 Mother Exclusive Custody:79.3 Father Exclusive Custody:6.6 Shared Physical Custody:12.8 Other:1.2 (%) Some other things to ponder: http://www.thestar.com/life/health_wellness/2009/10/02/divorced_dads_cant_catch_a_break.html https://dalrock.wordpress.com/2011/08/15/latest-u-s-custody-and-child-support-data/ http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-hughes/are-custody-decisions-bia_b_870709.html https://walllegalsolutions.com/edu/how-often-do-fathers-get-child-custody-compared-to-mothers/ Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted July 7, 2015 Report Posted July 7, 2015 I don't, but statistics Canada has a pretty damn good idea. http://www.justice.gc.ca/eng/rp-pr/fl-lf/famil/stat2000/p4.html Custody Table 5 shows who received custody of the children and the type of contact that was maintained with the non-custodial parent in cases where the parents said they had a court order. Table 5: Court-Ordered Custody Arrangement, According to the Age of the Child at Separation and the Type of Broken Union-NLSCY, Cycle 1, 1994-1995 Mother Exclusive Custody:79.3 Father Exclusive Custody:6.6 Shared Physical Custody:12.8 Other:1.2 (%) Some other things to ponder: http://www.thestar.com/life/health_wellness/2009/10/02/divorced_dads_cant_catch_a_break.html https://dalrock.wordpress.com/2011/08/15/latest-u-s-custody-and-child-support-data/ http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-hughes/are-custody-decisions-bia_b_870709.html https://walllegalsolutions.com/edu/how-often-do-fathers-get-child-custody-compared-to-mothers/ There are no surprises in the tables. Of course mothers are most often the primary care giver, especially with younger children, and so are most often granted custody. Quote
Hal 9000 Posted July 7, 2015 Report Posted July 7, 2015 I don't, but statistics Canada has a pretty damn good idea. http://www.justice.gc.ca/eng/rp-pr/fl-lf/famil/stat2000/p4.html Custody Table 5 shows who received custody of the children and the type of contact that was maintained with the non-custodial parent in cases where the parents said they had a court order. Table 5: Court-Ordered Custody Arrangement, According to the Age of the Child at Separation and the Type of Broken Union-NLSCY, Cycle 1, 1994-1995 Mother Exclusive Custody:79.3 Father Exclusive Custody:6.6 Shared Physical Custody:12.8 Other:1.2 (%) Some other things to ponder: http://www.thestar.com/life/health_wellness/2009/10/02/divorced_dads_cant_catch_a_break.html https://dalrock.wordpress.com/2011/08/15/latest-u-s-custody-and-child-support-data/ http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-hughes/are-custody-decisions-bia_b_870709.html https://walllegalsolutions.com/edu/how-often-do-fathers-get-child-custody-compared-to-mothers/ So, in short, if you are a man who works to earn a good living for your family while you wife stays home, you're screwed. Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
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