WestCoastRunner Posted June 5, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2015 As for the greed, good grief. I don't think this is a publicity stunt in the sense that it's all fake, but Caitlynn certainly milked it for every last dime. From the start the whole family vehemently denied everything even though Bruce had breasts, nail polish, laser hair removal and a changing facial appearance. By doing so, they created a media frenzy of is she or isn't she? Then in a perfectly orchestrated manner, she cashed in with the interview and the subsequent magazine spread, carefully making sure that she is not pictured as a woman any time beforehand (which we know never happens when someone is transitioning). I don't have a problem with Caitlynn cashing in on this. Everyone has to make a living and if she can milk this, so what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BC_chick Posted June 5, 2015 Report Share Posted June 5, 2015 I could be wrong but something tells me you may be against the amount of money corporate CEO's make 'for a living'. Why? Everyone has to make money, no? Sometimes it's a fine line between making a living and excessive greed and that's where people become a bit critical. Kris Kardashian exploiting the personal lives of her entire family is just making a living too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hal 9000 Posted June 5, 2015 Report Share Posted June 5, 2015 Jenner and that entire family are media whores. He always has been. His sickness is his inability to stay away from the spotlight. Ps I'll still say he, because he's really just a transvestite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCoastRunner Posted June 6, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 6, 2015 I could be wrong but something tells me you may be against the amount of money corporate CEO's make 'for a living'. Why? Everyone has to make money, no? Sometimes it's a fine line between making a living and excessive greed and that's where people become a bit critical. Kris Kardashian exploiting the personal lives of her entire family is just making a living too. I really don't care how people make their money as long as it's legal. If there is a demand for the product and it seems that there is for the Jenners and the kardashians then all the more power to them. It's not for me to judge how people earn a living. And let's not forget the people behind the scenes of these entities who are also making a living. I have a choice to not watch these high earning reality shows and so I don't think I'm contributing to their bank account so it doesn't bother me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Guy Posted June 6, 2015 Report Share Posted June 6, 2015 And, if in a few years Caitlyn decides to detransition then ... ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCoastRunner Posted June 6, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 6, 2015 And, if in a few years Caitlyn decides to detransition then ... ? Why would you think that? Caitlyn has identified as a female from a very young age. You think she will change her mind after the life she has faced living like a man? She certainly seems quite happy living publicly like a woman. Kudos to her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GostHacked Posted June 6, 2015 Report Share Posted June 6, 2015 That's completely wrong. There's nothing stopping a transgender person from having children, given that they haven't had gender reconstruction surgery. Well, aside from adoption.....think about it for a moment. Sure if you are in the mindset of transgender, but have not done the physical part yet... sure possible. But in the case of Jenner, as a male, he could not get anyone pregnant, and as a 'woman' he could not get pregnant. Missing some vital parts like a uterus and ovaries. The question posed was would it be wise to let the partner know about the gender change before getting married, and starting a family. I say yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCoastRunner Posted June 6, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 6, 2015 (edited) Well, aside from adoption.....think about it for a moment. Sure if you are in the mindset of transgender, but have not done the physical part yet... sure possible. But in the case of Jenner, as a male, he could not get anyone pregnant, and as a 'woman' he could not get pregnant. Missing some vital parts like a uterus and ovaries. The question posed was would it be wise to let the partner know about the gender change before getting married, and starting a family. I say yes. Caitlyn could offer her sperm to a surrogate mom. It's been done before. Not rocket science.Of course they would have to notify a potential partner. Why is this issue even being brought up? Edited June 6, 2015 by WestCoastRunner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GostHacked Posted June 6, 2015 Report Share Posted June 6, 2015 Caitlyn could offer her sperm to a surrogate mom. It's been done before. Not rocket science. Of course they would have to notify a potential partner. Why is this issue even being brought up? It was a question Hardner brought up. And well this is about as good a thread as any to bring that question in. I guess I was the only one who decided to answer it instead of adding to the fluff over the past few pages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCoastRunner Posted June 6, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 6, 2015 (edited) It was a question Hardner brought up. And well this is about as good a thread as any to bring that question in. I guess I was the only one who decided to answer it instead of adding to the fluff over the past few pages.It just seems a silly question to me, however I understand no question is silly so maybe I should retract that. Edited June 6, 2015 by WestCoastRunner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hal 9000 Posted June 6, 2015 Report Share Posted June 6, 2015 If he wants to identify with being a woman - fine. I don't care. If he wants people to look at him as a gibbon, clown fish or newt, that's fine by me - it doesn't mean he is any of those things though. Even the study makes sure to stipulate that it's just a cosmetic thing to help people 'look like' the opposite sex. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCoastRunner Posted June 6, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 6, 2015 If he wants to identify with being a woman - fine. I don't care. If he wants people to look at him as a gibbon, clown fish or newt, that's fine by me - it doesn't mean he is any of those things though. Even the study makes sure to stipulate that it's just a cosmetic thing to help people 'look like' the opposite sex. Not sure what your point is here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GostHacked Posted June 6, 2015 Report Share Posted June 6, 2015 It just seems a silly question to me, however I understand no question is silly so maybe I should retract that. It really is not a silly question. If you met someone that had a sex change( and you did not know) and wanted to pursue a relationship and a family, it becomes a critical question. If one wants kids, but cannot produce them (via pregnancy) then that changes the relationship. However, if the partner is good with the other's sex change then other options like adoption are still there. As there are many countless kids that need a good home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCoastRunner Posted June 6, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 6, 2015 It really is not a silly question. If you met someone that had a sex change( and you did not know) and wanted to pursue a relationship and a family, it becomes a critical question. If one wants kids, but cannot produce them (via pregnancy) then that changes the relationship. However, if the partner is good with the other's sex change then other options like adoption are still there. As there are many countless kids that need a good home. I guess I'm assuming the partner would be forthright. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hal 9000 Posted June 6, 2015 Report Share Posted June 6, 2015 If I was dating a dude who looked like a woman (and that's all it really is- pretend) I'd want to know. Would you, WCR want to know if the dude you're dating was actually just a lady-boy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GostHacked Posted June 6, 2015 Report Share Posted June 6, 2015 I guess I'm assuming the partner would be forthright. We'd hope that would be the case, but I guess it does not happen all the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCoastRunner Posted June 6, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 6, 2015 We'd hope that would be the case, but I guess it does not happen all the time. Perhaps not. I'm a positive thinker!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCoastRunner Posted June 6, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 6, 2015 If I was dating a dude who looked like a woman (and that's all it really is- pretend) I'd want to know. Would you, WCR want to know if the dude you're dating was actually just a lady-boy? Yes I probably would but maybe not. I don't know really. Depends on how good the dude was in bed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poochy Posted June 9, 2015 Report Share Posted June 9, 2015 Let me pour some intelligent commentary on to the stupid fire. http://news.nationalpost.com/full-comment/barbara-kay-caitlyn-jenner-trivializes-the-momentousness-of-what-it-means-to-be-a-woman "The true-to-ideology feminists are understandably put off by Caitlyn’s conflation of womanhood with a seductive appearance, beautiful long nails, thick eyelashes and a wavy fall of glossy hair. And with reason. It banalizes and trivializes the momentousness of what it means to be a woman in full." 100% yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hal 9000 Posted June 22, 2015 Report Share Posted June 22, 2015 (edited) Caitlyn Jenner is celebrating fathers day! What gives? https://ca.celebrity.yahoo.com/news/caitlyn-jenners-fathers-day-220626691.html Edited June 22, 2015 by Hal 9000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted June 22, 2015 Report Share Posted June 22, 2015 (edited) Caitlyn Jenner is celebrating fathers day! What gives? https://ca.celebrity.yahoo.com/news/caitlyn-jenners-fathers-day-220626691.html And friends of mine who just had a child last year called it "other mother's day." What's your point? Edited June 22, 2015 by cybercoma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canada_First Posted June 22, 2015 Report Share Posted June 22, 2015 And friends of mine who just had a child last year called it "other mother's day." What's your point?He's claimed to be a woman. Women aren't father's. So now he can claim to be a woman or a man whenever she deems it convenient? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted June 22, 2015 Report Share Posted June 22, 2015 Women aren't [sic] father's. Clearly you are wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canada_First Posted June 22, 2015 Report Share Posted June 22, 2015 Clearly you are wrong.Aren't is a word so I'm not sure why you put sic...Anyways... So a woman can make a child without a man? This is news to me. How do they accomplish this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted June 22, 2015 Report Share Posted June 22, 2015 Aren't is a word so I'm not sure why you put sic... I misplaced my sic. It should have been after the last word. So a woman can make a child without a man? No. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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