Boges Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 (edited) http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/elizabeth-may-goes-off-the-rails-in-awkward-press-gallery-dinner-speech-1.3068674 This will work against the Greens getting invited to the debates later this year. Delivering funny speeches in front of a room full of politicians and journalists at the annual press gallery dinner is a tough thing for any party leader, but it was especially tough for Green Party Leader Elizabeth May on Saturday night. After a longwinded and meandering speech, which included a few funny jabs, May ended with a shout-out to Omar Khadr, who was freed on bail in Edmonton last week. "Omar Khadr, you've got more class than the whole f-----g cabinet," May said, referring to the Conservative party, as Conservative MP and Transport Minister Lisa Raitt tried to usher her off the stage. Usually, party leaders deliver light-hearted, mainly self-deprecating speeches that include the odd barb thrown at the media. But May went on at length about being the only female leader and having to claw her way into televised leaders' debates. HAHAHAHAHA A convicted terrorist is more classy than the entire Conservative cabinet. So Clever! Edited May 11, 2015 by Boges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Dog Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 She's not wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIK Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 (edited) I think she had one to many. And in her last debate, she was just plain arrogant and rude. That is why she does not get invited back. And yes black dog she is wrong. The hate from the other sides is despicable, and just because harper won. People just cant get over the country is doing great under this government and their pick in leaders blew up in their faces. Edited May 11, 2015 by PIK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Guy Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 This reminds me of staff Christmas parties that I use to attend. A good time, lots to drink and an atmosphere of giddiness - and people saying things that they regret for the next 12 months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topaz Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 Yes she is right when one compares the Tory party to Khadr. First of all, Khadr had to plead guilty to get out of the prison and I bet even the Tory MPs would have done the same thing, anyone would! As a young boy, he had been torture down in the prison and he's had more life experience than any of the MPs. We have seen the scams, schemes, cover ups, bribing, and liars this party and the PMO are. In my view, May and Khadr have more respectability than this party and until Khadr does anything against the law, the Tories should leave him alone and worry more about their next jobs! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drummindiver Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 Yes she is right when one compares the Tory party to Khadr. First of all, Khadr had to plead guilty to get out of the prison and I bet even the Tory MPs would have done the same thing, anyone would! As a young boy, he had been torture down in the prison and he's had more life experience than any of the MPs. We have seen the scams, schemes, cover ups, bribing, and liars this party and the PMO are. In my view, May and Khadr have more respectability than this party and until Khadr does anything against the law, the Tories should leave him alone and worry more about their next jobs! Just to be clear, you think a convicted terrorist has more class than democratically elected public officials? So, I hate the Liberals, with their scheming, thieving ways (never mind the multiple billion dollar boondoggles) and yet I still hold them in higher esteem than a person who cowardly killed and maimed people I'm hoping you're just spewing abhorrent, contemptible rhetoric. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Squid Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 She made a dumb mistake... Those were a poor choice of "jokes". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted May 11, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 She was clearly drunk. Not sure why she won't admit it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 She's not wrong. Personally, I find it perplexing how one can call a fundamentalist Muslim 'classy'. Fundamentalist Muslims don't believe in equality for women, or any sort of womens rights, don't care about the environment, and believe gays should be executed. Are these the sorts of beliefs Elizabeth May admires and wants to see more of in Canada? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Dog Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 Personally, I find it perplexing how one can call a fundamentalist Muslim 'classy'. Fundamentalist Muslims don't believe in equality for women, or any sort of womens rights, don't care about the environment, and believe gays should be executed. Are these the sorts of beliefs Elizabeth May admires and wants to see more of in Canada? And you know for a fact Omar Khadr believes these things? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 She She was clearly drunk. Not sure why she won't admit it. She was sleep deprived. I get that. I've done some pretty stupid things when I was sleep deprived. I believe I was even arrested once for being sleep deprived. One thing about "classy". If we go by the "it takes one to know one" saying, May has ruled herself out of any credibility on the issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 And you know for a fact Omar Khadr believes these things?Well yeah. They've made a folk devil out of Omar Khadr. So who gives a crap what he actually believes. Let's just label him with a bunch of hysterical nonsense we've made up. Nationalists need an enemy and Omar Khadr personifies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
On Guard for Thee Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 And you know for a fact Omar Khadr believes these things? Of course he doesnt. He is just a bit sleep deprived. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted May 11, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 (edited) And you know for a fact Omar Khadr believes these things? Does Lizzie May know? Is she personal friends with Omar? Edited May 11, 2015 by Boges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 (edited) And you know for a fact Omar Khadr believes these things? Is there some lack of clarity in the social beliefs of fundamentalist Muslims? Because their social beliefs based on the koran, seems fairly clear. If you're even an observant Muslim, never mind a fundamentalist, then you believe in what the Koran teaches. I don't think it's a giant leap to look at what the Koran says and suggest a fundamentalist Muslim supports that too. If you look at laws and surveys of public attitudes and beliefs among Muslims there is very little variation from the Koran in terms of social beliefs. Edited May 11, 2015 by Argus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
On Guard for Thee Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 Is there some lack of clarity in the social beliefs of fundamentalist Muslims? Because their social beliefs based on the koran, seems fairly clear. If you're even an observant Muslim, never mind a fundamentalist, then you believe in what the Koran teaches. I don't think it's a giant leap to look at what the Koran says and suggest a fundamentalist Muslim supports that too. I believe the question was about Omar Khadr, not the Koran. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 I believe the question was about Omar Khadr, not the Koran. Is Omar Khadr no longer a fundamentalist Muslim? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted May 11, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 Is Omar Khadr no longer a fundamentalist Muslim? Apparently not. He'll be nominated for an Order of Canada soon actually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
On Guard for Thee Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 Is Omar Khadr no longer a fundamentalist Muslim? I dont know, but why are you asking me, you are the one making the one size fits all statements. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIK Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 Has he shown remorse, no. Has he denounced his terrorist ways, no. And he was not a child soldier, he was trained to kill, our people. Even the Geneva convention does not class him as a child soldier. And maybe you were to stupid as a 15 yr old to know the difference between right and wrong, but does not mean the rest of us were. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Dog Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 Is there some lack of clarity in the social beliefs of fundamentalist Muslims? Because their social beliefs based on the koran, seems fairly clear. If you're even an observant Muslim, never mind a fundamentalist, then you believe in what the Koran teaches. I don't think it's a giant leap to look at what the Koran says and suggest a fundamentalist Muslim supports that too. If you look at laws and surveys of public attitudes and beliefs among Muslims there is very little variation from the Koran in terms of social beliefs. So I take that as a no, you don't actually know where Omar Khadr stands on these things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted May 11, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 So I take that as a no, you don't actually know where Omar Khadr stands on these things. Nor does May. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Dog Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 Nor does May. Is it relevant? Canadian citizens are entitled to believe anything they want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
On Guard for Thee Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 Has he shown remorse, no. Has he denounced his terrorist ways, no. And he was not a child soldier, he was trained to kill, our people. Even the Geneva convention does not class him as a child soldier. And maybe you were to stupid as a 15 yr old to know the difference between right and wrong, but does not mean the rest of us were. Apparently you are another who didnt listen to, or chooses to ignore the actual press conference but continues to opine about it. The UN conventions list the age of a child for purposes of recruitment as 18. I guess you can choose whichever protocol suits your purpose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted May 11, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 Is it relevant? Canadian citizens are entitled to believe anything they want. She made a ridiculous rhetorical claim that some people seem to want to defend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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