The_Squid Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 Yeah, kind of. But even morons have free speech rights. Yes you do! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 Fox News couldn't find an Imam in the US? I've got to give them credit though. They probably spent a whole 3 minutes on that TEXAS JIHAD graphic. Right. Because only other news networks are allowed to interview this particular Imam. Fox shouldn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Je suis Omar Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 Definitely. But apparently doing something behind closed doors is pretty offensive! Do you mean like conspiring to commit war crimes and acts of terrorism against poor people all around the world? Planning 60 plus years of terrorism against Cuba. Planning the slaughter of millions of Vietnamese because they only wanted control over their own lands and wealth. Planning the "Anything that flies on anything that moves" bombing of Cambodia. (Henry Kissinger relating Nixon's orders for the bombing of the Cambodian people) Planning and carrying out support for PolPot and the Khmer Rouge. Only a few of the thousands of immoral plans that have gone on behind American closed doors. Yeah, those and all the others are damned offensive to anyone with any sense of morality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted May 8, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 Yeah, those and all the others are damned offensive to anyone with any sense of morality. Morality is way overrated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 Gotta defend bombing Cambodia. It's not like the VC were respecting that border. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 Do you mean like conspiring to commit war crimes and acts of terrorism against poor people all around the world? Planning 60 plus years of terrorism against Cuba. Planning the slaughter of millions of Vietnamese because they only wanted control over their own lands and wealth. Planning the "Anything that flies on anything that moves" bombing of Cambodia. (Henry Kissinger relating Nixon's orders for the bombing of the Cambodian people) Planning and carrying out support for PolPot and the Khmer Rouge. Only a few of the thousands of immoral plans that have gone on behind American closed doors. Yeah, those and all the others are damned offensive to anyone with any sense of morality. Nope, I'm just referring to protection American constitutional rights. Nothing else. Those are all great topics for other threads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gumby Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 Trying to keep it on topic, these two clowns set back the cause of Muslim acceptance in America a hundred years, but did us all a great service by highlighting how retarded and poisonous all religion is. Regardless of and unrelated to America's imperialistic endeavors worldwide, this attack comes off as the typically sad and antiquated attempt at religious extortion. It's not about revenge or jihad it's about a sick dark ages blind adherence to populist religion cult fantasy. I would encourage all people of the world to drop the tired mindless Hero-figure from space thing, but just today will devote extra derision aimed towards our Mosque attending friends, the only ones so far to out-stupid the WBC and our friends from Jonestown. Again, we get to see what religion actually does to destroy genuine freedom. Makes Islam look even more retarded and reactionary than the other mainstream fallacies, which is reasonably accurate in my books. Although Judaism still rules in the areas of comical garb and outlandish dancing, with the Catholics still strong in the areas of scary rituals and daily fear-mongering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Je suis Omar Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 Gotta defend bombing Cambodia. It's not like the VC were respecting that border. You are speaking from a position of abysmal ignorance, Boges. Bombs Over Cambodia http://www.yale.edu/cgp/Walrus_CambodiaBombing_OCT06.pdf ----------------- Where the Vietnamese were is of no concern, except possibly to the people of Cambodia. It was of no concern because the Vietnamese were fighting that invading horde of war criminals, the USA. It was the Vietnamese that ousted the USA facilitated PolPot/Khmer Rouge regime, who then beat it to Thailand, where they were then financially supported by the USA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 (edited) invading horde of war criminals, the USA. I'm not fan of The Vietnam War, but that's hilarious. Edited May 8, 2015 by Boges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msj Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 I too am getting tired of the thread drift. Look, this is about people expressing themselves - drawing a cartoon of Mohammed. The people doing this are not Muslim's themselves, and even if they were, maybe they don't follow that part of the Koran just like Christian's and Jews ignore Leviticus, for example. As such, this was an attack on people's freedom. Sure, if the attack was to try and run over military personnel or kill a Prime Minister by running into the Parliament building then I think it would be fair to bring up foreign policy. It would probably even be fair to link those attacks to foreign policy. But that is a separate thread and has already been done when those events happened. So go resurrect that thread if you must. This thread is very simple: 1) People were doing what the constitution in that country says they are allowed to do. 2) Allah nut jobs did not like it because, ALLAH! so they tried to kill these people. 3) The Allah nut jobs got shot instead. 4) The organizer of the event is allegedly a twit. 5) People should not be shot for drawing cartoons or criticizing ideas even if they are herded together by an alleged twit. 6) This is not rocket science..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 I too am getting tired of the thread drift. Look, this is about people expressing themselves - drawing a cartoon of Mohammed. The people doing this are not Muslim's themselves, and even if they were, maybe they don't follow that part of the Koran just like Christian's and Jews ignore Leviticus, for example. As such, this was an attack on people's freedom. Sure, if the attack was to try and run over military personnel or kill a Prime Minister by running into the Parliament building then I think it would be fair to bring up foreign policy. It would probably even be fair to link those attacks to foreign policy. But that is a separate thread and has already been done when those events happened. So go resurrect that thread if you must. This thread is very simple: 1) People were doing what the constitution in that country says they are allowed to do. 2) Allah nut jobs did not like it because, ALLAH! so they tried to kill these people. 3) The Allah nut jobs got shot instead. 4) The organizer of the event is allegedly a twit. 5) People should not be shot for drawing cartoons or criticizing ideas even if they are herded together by an alleged twit. 6) This is not rocket science..... Yeah but the people who shot at civilians were justified because of Vietnam and Iraq. DON'T YOU GET IT!!!!!????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msj Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 Oh, ok, I see now! Carry on then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Je suis Omar Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 Nope, I'm just referring to protection American constitutional rights. Nothing else. No, you weren't. You were doing your usual propaganda routine, Those are all great topics for other threads. Which you studiously avoid because those topics clearly illustrate just how fatuous your USA propaganda is. Those topics illustrate that the problems of the world have been caused, almost completely by USA pillaging countries around the world and murdering their citizens. Over half a century of USA and UK pillaging the Middle East, in the 1990s, a million Iraqi children killed by an amoral USA/UK embargo and you lot have within, the temerity and the dishonesty to continue advancing these ludicrous memes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Je suis Omar Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 I'm not fan of The Vietnam War, but that's hilarious. Would you like me to start a thread where you can discuss it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msj Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 Start your own thread and clearly show the link between Western Foreign policy and these particular Allah nut jobs. Once again, if these nut cases did not like US foreign policy then presumably they would have targeted something appropriately to clearly indicate that was the subject of their wrath. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted May 8, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 Over half a century of USA and UK pillaging the Middle East, in the 1990s, a million Iraqi children killed by an amoral USA/UK embargo and you lot have within, the temerity and the dishonesty to continue advancing these ludicrous memes. More denial....Canada not only supported the embargo but enforced it with ships of war. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 Would you like me to start a thread where you can discuss it? No, your opinion is clear. The VC were justified in doing whatever they did because of the "amoral" US Army invading their homeland. I'm not even saying that opinion has no merit, the Vietnam war was stupid. But if a nation IS engaged in a military conflict it's tough to expect them to respect borders that their opponents are ignoring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Je suis Omar Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 I too am getting tired of the thread drift. Look, this is about people expressing themselves - drawing a cartoon of Mohammed. The people doing this are not Muslim's themselves, and even if they were, maybe they don't follow that part of the Koran just like Christian's and Jews ignore Leviticus, for example. As such, this was an attack on people's freedom. Sure, if the attack was to try and run over military personnel or kill a Prime Minister by running into the Parliament building then I think it would be fair to bring up foreign policy. It would probably even be fair to link those attacks to foreign policy. But that is a separate thread and has already been done when those events happened. So go resurrect that thread if you must. This thread is very simple: 1) People were doing what the constitution in that country says they are allowed to do. 2) Allah nut jobs did not like it because, ALLAH! so they tried to kill these people. 3) The Allah nut jobs got shot instead. 4) The organizer of the event is allegedly a twit. 5) People should not be shot for drawing cartoons or criticizing ideas even if they are herded together by an alleged twit. 6) This is not rocket science..... Advancing the ludicrous notion that these aren't connected is a ludicrous notion. Illegally invading sovereign nations is also unconstitutional. Y'all can get your panties in a right twist about such miniscule events but the deaths of millions of Iraqis and afghans murdered by war criminals, not so much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 Advancing the ludicrous notion that these aren't connected is a ludicrous notion. Illegally invading sovereign nations is also unconstitutional. Y'all can get your panties in a right twist about such miniscule events but the deaths of millions of Iraqis and afghans murdered by war criminals, not so much. Just want to be clear here. You think people SHOULD be shot if they draw a picture of Mohamed because of Middle Eastern wars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted May 8, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 (edited) Y'all can get your panties in a right twist about such miniscule events but the deaths of millions of Iraqis and afghans murdered by war criminals, not so much. Nope...not so much. Saddam said, "Who loves you, baby !" Didn't mind cartoons unless about him. Edited May 8, 2015 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Je suis Omar Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 No, your opinion is clear. The VC were justified in doing whatever they did because of the "amoral" US Army invading their homeland. I'm not even saying that opinion has no merit, the Vietnam war was stupid. But if a nation IS engaged in a military conflict it's tough to expect them to respect borders that their opponents are ignoring. The USA wasn't engaged in a military conflict. You're airbrushing a massive series of war crimes and terrorist actions that were perpetrated upon a people who only wanted their land to be theirs, their wealth to be theirs. The USA knew this, USA president, eisenhower, knew that in fair elections, elections that were scheduled to take place, the Vietnam people by a large majority, would vote for Ho Chi Minh. The USA put the kibosh on those elections. And then proceeded with their massive war crimes against Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, ... . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msj Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 Y'all can get your panties in a right twist about such miniscule events but the deaths of millions of Iraqis and afghans murdered by war criminals, not so much. For me any attack on our freedoms is not a "miniscule" event. It is also what this thread is about so if you want to talk about war dead then go to the appropriate thread and discuss it there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted May 8, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 ...The USA put the kibosh on those elections. And then proceeded with their massive war crimes against Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, ... . But the USA did not put the kabosh on cartoons...the topic of this thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Je suis Omar Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 Just want to be clear here. You think people SHOULD be shot if they draw a picture of Mohamed because of Middle Eastern wars. Just wanting to be clear is just not you, Boges. Clarifying the issues is the last thing on your mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted May 8, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 So people should be shot for drawing Mohammad cartoons because of the Vietnam War ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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