Hudson Jones Posted April 14, 2015 Report Posted April 14, 2015 They want to keep telling us that we share the same values. We don't. Boycotting Israel, just like the world boycotted Apartheid South Africa is the only civilized behaviour towards the barbaric Zionist project in Palestine. The irony is so thick you can carve an Israeli flag on it; To steal a people's land and then abuse their children working on it as cheap child labour! Human Rights Watch has just issued a report on the criminal abuse of children by Israeli settler colonialists: "The report, "Ripe for Abuse: Palestinian Child Labor in Israeli Agricultural Settlements in the West Bank", documents cases of children as young as 11 working on some settlement farms, often in high temperatures. "They carry heavy loads, are exposed to hazardous pesticides, and in some cases have to pay themselves for medical treatment for work-related injuries or illness," the report said." Link Quote When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always. Gandhi
Hudson Jones Posted April 14, 2015 Author Report Posted April 14, 2015 Gosh...that's just terrible ! At least they didn't abuse and exploit children in residential schools !! Hey look; Israeli apologists are left with comparing Israel's practices with ISIS, Boko Harem and to practices of Canada that would not be accepted in this day and age. --- The regular cutting down of olive trees by Israeli settlers in the West Bank is a terrorist practice aimed at financially crippling Palestinian farmers and dismantling Palestinian culture. Israeli settlers are hacking down Palestinian olive trees in an act of environmental terrorism "aimed at intimidating their Palestinian neighbours and economically crippling many Palestinian farmers who rely on harvesting olives to make a living." Link Quote When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always. Gandhi
Signals.Cpl Posted April 14, 2015 Report Posted April 14, 2015 Don't you think we profit from child labour every time you buy a product made by a child in some third world country? Don't you think that there are Canadian companies or at least companies operating in Canada who use child labor for their products? We can't act superior to them if we look the other way when we buy products made by kids in horrible working conditions. Quote Hope for the Best, Prepare for the Worst
bush_cheney2004 Posted April 15, 2015 Report Posted April 15, 2015 ....The regular cutting down of olive trees by Israeli settlers in the West Bank is a terrorist practice aimed at financially crippling Palestinian farmers and dismantling Palestinian culture. Seriously ? Cutting down olive trees is being compared to suicide bombings, rocket attacks, terror tunnels, and Olympic murders ? Weep for the trees..... Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Shady Posted April 15, 2015 Report Posted April 15, 2015 Does strapping suicide vests on a child and having them walk on to a bus count as child labour as well? Just wondering. Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted April 15, 2015 Report Posted April 15, 2015 Does strapping suicide vests on a child and having them walk on to a bus count as child labour as well? Just wondering. You and BC seem to augment each other so well. Quote
marcus Posted April 15, 2015 Report Posted April 15, 2015 Seriously ? Cutting down olive trees is being compared to suicide bombings, rocket attacks, terror tunnels, and Olympic murders ? Weep for the trees..... And there continue the Israeli Apologists... Yes. The BDS movement is the only response to the out of control "barbaric Zionist project". Quote "What do you think of Western civilization?" Gandhi was asked. "I think it would be a good idea," he said.
sharkman Posted April 15, 2015 Report Posted April 15, 2015 truth out is a leftwing activist site that is not exactly trustworthy. The whole olive story is hearsay, there is no proof even offered! The "reporter" just accepts the account given as if he doesn't need to fact check or get some corroborating evidence. Definitely Jonesy territory though when it comes to Israel. Quote
LemonPureLeaf Posted April 15, 2015 Report Posted April 15, 2015 Israeli Jews are under attack constantly from the Arab Muslim. Many suicide bombers. Many Arab Muslim terrorists want to kill all Jews and push Israel into the ocean. This must not be allowed. God promised Israel to the Jewish people. Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted April 15, 2015 Report Posted April 15, 2015 Israeli Jews are under attack constantly from the Arab Muslim. Many suicide bombers. Many Arab Muslim terrorists want to kill all Jews and push Israel into the ocean. This must not be allowed. God promised Israel to the Jewish people. God promised me a raise this year too. Where the hell is it already... Quote
LemonPureLeaf Posted April 15, 2015 Report Posted April 15, 2015 God promised me a raise this year too. Where the hell is it already... God promised the Jews Israel it is written. They took action to make it reality. They didn't lack conviction. Perhaps that's your problem. Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted April 15, 2015 Report Posted April 15, 2015 God promised the Jews Israel it is written. They took action to make it reality. They didn't lack conviction. Perhaps that's your problem. I suspect your problem is you believe this god of yours actually wrote things. Can you describe this god of yours. Quote
LemonPureLeaf Posted April 15, 2015 Report Posted April 15, 2015 Can we hav e some proof please. Sorry if I'm skeptical and don't take your word for it. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted April 15, 2015 Report Posted April 15, 2015 And there continue the Israeli Apologists... Yes. The BDS movement is the only response to the out of control "barbaric Zionist project". Nope...not an apologist. Rather, a dedicated supporter and advocate for Israel, putting my private donations and public tax dollars to work to provide Israel with military and economic aid. How much did you give last year to save Palestinian....olive trees ? Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
GostHacked Posted April 15, 2015 Report Posted April 15, 2015 Israeli Jews are under attack constantly from the Arab Muslim. Many suicide bombers. Many Arab Muslim terrorists want to kill all Jews and push Israel into the ocean. This must not be allowed. God promised Israel to the Jewish people. So god does NOT treat all of his people equally. What a terrible god. Quote
Hudson Jones Posted April 15, 2015 Author Report Posted April 15, 2015 Seriously ? Cutting down olive trees is being compared to suicide bombings, rocket attacks, terror tunnels, and Olympic murders ? Weep for the trees..... Uh oh. Mr. Bad Comparison strikes again! Imagine if there were groups going around setting Canadian or U.S. farms on fire and the government didn't do anything about it because the governments felt these groups were above the law. As mentioned, what the Israeli government does and allows against the Palestinians is not compatible with our values and laws. Israel is an Apartheid State which has total contempt for the law. We should continue to put pressure on Israel through BDS. Quote When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always. Gandhi
Hudson Jones Posted April 15, 2015 Author Report Posted April 15, 2015 truth out is a leftwing activist site that is not exactly trustworthy. The whole olive story is hearsay, there is no proof even offered! The "reporter" just accepts the account given as if he doesn't need to fact check or get some corroborating evidence. Definitely Jonesy territory though when it comes to Israel. You Israeli apologists never change. Always in denial of the truth. Sharky, are you going to accept the account of the following or will you continue to deny the truth? Israel urged to protect West Bank olive trees after settler attacks More than 870 trees vandalised in first week of harvest this month, according to UN Link In West Bank, Palestinians gird for settler attacks on olive trees Link Study: 96% of destruction of Palestinian olive tree cases fall apart due to police incompetence Link New Economic Pogrom: Israeli squatters uproot 5000 olive tree saplings In Palestinian West Bank Link UN: In 2012, over 7,500 olive trees belonging to West Bank Palestinians have been damaged or destroyed by Israeli settlers Link Palestine: Jewish Settlers Torch 100 of World's Oldest Olive Trees Link The Plight of the Palestinian Olive Tree Link Quote When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always. Gandhi
bush_cheney2004 Posted April 16, 2015 Report Posted April 16, 2015 You Israeli apologists never change. Always in denial of the truth. No apologies required....besides...olive trees are an invasive species. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
LemonPureLeaf Posted April 16, 2015 Report Posted April 16, 2015 So god does NOT treat all of his people equally. What a terrible god. God is perfect. Jews are the chosen and Israel is the God given homeland. You're certainly entitled to your opinion. Quote
sharkman Posted April 16, 2015 Report Posted April 16, 2015 (edited) You Israeli apologists never change. Always in denial of the truth. Sharky, are you going to accept the account of the following or will you continue to deny the truth? Israel urged to protect West Bank olive trees after settler attacks More than 870 trees vandalised in first week of harvest this month, according to UN Link In West Bank, Palestinians gird for settler attacks on olive trees Link Study: 96% of destruction of Palestinian olive tree cases fall apart due to police incompetence Link New Economic Pogrom: Israeli squatters uproot 5000 olive tree saplings In Palestinian West Bank Link UN: In 2012, over 7,500 olive trees belonging to West Bank Palestinians have been damaged or destroyed by Israeli settlers Link Palestine: Jewish Settlers Torch 100 of World's Oldest Olive Trees Link The Plight of the Palestinian Olive Tree Link And "truth out" didn't bother to use any sources. Nice of you to grow up a little and at least give the appearance, Jonesy, but with your crusade against Israel your posts have to be discounted as you've repeatedly use extremist websites as sources, generally speaking. Edited April 16, 2015 by sharkman Quote
marcus Posted April 16, 2015 Report Posted April 16, 2015 And "truth out" didn't bother to use any sources. Except that they did. Not only was this article written by a reporter from Inter Press Services who conducted the research and interviews on location, but they also used sources to show statistics in regards to settler violence against Palestinian property. It looks like you need to grow up with your debating and forum skills and start reading what you're replying to, instead of jumping on the denial gravy train. From the article: According to the UN Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs (OCHA), 324 incidents of settler violence against Palestinians and their property were reported during 2014 alone. and According to the Palestinian Authority (PA) and the Applied Research Institute Jerusalem (ARIJ), approximately 800,000 olive trees have been uprooted since Israel occupied the West Bank and Gaza in 1967. It's a good time to answer HJ: Sharky, are you going to accept the account of the following or will you continue to deny the truth? Quote "What do you think of Western civilization?" Gandhi was asked. "I think it would be a good idea," he said.
sharkman Posted April 16, 2015 Report Posted April 16, 2015 Except that they did. Not only was this article written by a reporter from Inter Press Services who conducted the research and interviews on location, but they also used sources to show statistics in regards to settler violence against Palestinian property. It looks like you need to grow up with your debating and forum skills and start reading what you're replying to, instead of jumping on the denial gravy train. From the article: According to the UN Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs (OCHA), 324 incidents of settler violence against Palestinians and their property were reported during 2014 alone. and According to the Palestinian Authority (PA) and the Applied Research Institute Jerusalem (ARIJ), approximately 800,000 olive trees have been uprooted since Israel occupied the West Bank and Gaza in 1967. It's a good time to answer HJ: Yeah, I saw those cherry picked "stats" that the "journalist" used in his story. He had already decided that the story would be an attack piece so didn't bother to interview Israeli authorities or settlers like any semi-skilled reporter would do. He also didn't include what constitutes "violence on property" . He didn't include what violence the Palestinians committed against Israelis during the same time frame, because it's all about slamming some Jews. That you and Jonesy get your sources from extremist sites like this tells us all we need to know about you. Quote
marcus Posted April 16, 2015 Report Posted April 16, 2015 Yeah, I saw those cherry picked "stats" that the "journalist" used in his story. He had already decided that the story would be an attack piece so didn't bother to interview Israeli authorities or settlers like any semi-skilled reporter would do. He also didn't include what constitutes "violence on property" . He didn't include what violence the Palestinians committed against Israelis during the same time frame, because it's all about slamming some Jews. That you and Jonesy get your sources from extremist sites like this tells us all we need to know about you. Pathetic. You lack integrity. HJ has already posted more than enough links showing the same information that we saw from the "extremist" site. From your original response, it was obvious that you didn't even read the article. And now that every part of your stance and comments have been ripped apart, you still fail to accept and admit the truth. People like you do not contribute to making the world better. You are merely a bump on the road. Quote "What do you think of Western civilization?" Gandhi was asked. "I think it would be a good idea," he said.
bush_cheney2004 Posted April 16, 2015 Report Posted April 16, 2015 ...People like you do not contribute to making the world better. You are merely a bump on the road. Personal attack noted, but guess who paves the road ? Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
sharkman Posted April 16, 2015 Report Posted April 16, 2015 Pathetic. You lack integrity. HJ has already posted more than enough links showing the same information that we saw from the "extremist" site. From your original response, it was obvious that you didn't even read the article. And now that every part of your stance and comments have been ripped apart, you still fail to accept and admit the truth. People like you do not contribute to making the world better. You are merely a bump on the road. The problem with extremists is they wouldn't know the truth if they ran over it. Quote
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