Argus Posted August 19, 2015 Report Share Posted August 19, 2015 Conservatives contradict themselves on Duffy affair. I am always ready to do exactly what is asked. Clear evidence that under the Conservatives, the supposedly independent senate is squarely under the thumb of the PMO. And you find this surprising? Did you think it was any different under Chretien, or did you simply not care then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted August 19, 2015 Report Share Posted August 19, 2015 Harper did not realize that demeaning the Role of the Senate would unleash this storm. Had he appointed someone interested in carrying out Canada's business... Instead of a Party bagman..... none of this would be happening. It wasn't party bagmen who got him into trouble it was the journalists who acted like grubby gluttons at the trough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldo Posted August 19, 2015 Report Share Posted August 19, 2015 It wasn't party bagmen who got him into trouble it was the journalists who acted like grubby gluttons at the trough. cause your boy Harper isn't accountable for anything... and isn't responsible for anything... and it's not his fault that his Senate nominations have blown up on him, big time... blown up reeeal good! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldo Posted August 19, 2015 Report Share Posted August 19, 2015 (edited) And you find this surprising? Did you think it was any different under Chretien, or did you simply not care then? but the Libs! But the Libs! wash/rinse/repeat Edited August 19, 2015 by waldo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldo Posted August 19, 2015 Report Share Posted August 19, 2015 You mean the questions he's already answered several times, but with different answers this time, right? no - Harper doesn't answer the questions... he ignores them and instead follows the same script and repeats the same statements, day in, day out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
socialist Posted August 19, 2015 Report Share Posted August 19, 2015 (edited) no - Harper doesn't answer the questions... he ignores them and instead follows the same script and repeats the same statements, day in, day out! That's what you do on this forum. Edited August 19, 2015 by socialist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Posted August 19, 2015 Report Share Posted August 19, 2015 Maybe it would help if Harper would just answer the questions. Instead of avoiding them. He's answered the same questions over and over again. He has not avoided anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
socialist Posted August 19, 2015 Report Share Posted August 19, 2015 Huh. I didn't know the laws against bribery were imaginary. You should tell the Justice Department. Seems like information that might interest them. I just got off the phone with a friend who attended a Conservative event. After the PM spoke he gave the 5 reporters an opportunity to ask a question. Three of the reporters were CBC, The CBC reporters asked the same question about the Duffy trial. The PM answered. Given that they had all asked the same question I don't know why they would have expected a different answer! On the evening news we listened to Hannah Thibedeau say, "The PM was peppered with questions about the Duffy trial". I was astounded because her statement was such an outright lie. Three CBC reporters asked the same question 3 times. This kind of 'reporting' is why many Canadians lack respect for journalists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted August 19, 2015 Report Share Posted August 19, 2015 (edited) cause your boy Harper isn't accountable for anything... and isn't responsible for anything... and it's not his fault that his Senate nominations have blown up on him, big time... blown up reeeal good! I think I've said on any number of occasions that whoever in the PMO is responsible for nominating and vetting people for jobs ought to be tarred and feathered. Surely not even YOU, think Harper comes up with the names of people for all these boards and agencies, to say nothing of the Senate, then checks them out himself. Edited August 19, 2015 by Argus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Posted August 19, 2015 Report Share Posted August 19, 2015 After the PM spoke he gave the 5 reporters an opportunity to ask a question. Three of the reporters were CBC, The CBC reporters asked the same question about the Duffy trial. The PM answered. Given that they had all asked the same question I don't know why they would have expected a different answer! On the evening news we listened to Hannah Thibedeau say, "The PM was peppered with questions about the Duffy trial". I was astounded because her statement was such an outright lie. Three CBC reporters asked the same question 3 times. This kind of 'reporting' is why many Canadians lack respect for journalists. It really is ridiculous. It's time that he started vetting the questions. If you say you're going to ask a question that's already been answered, you're off the list. If you go off script and ask a different question than you said you would, you're off the list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icebound Posted August 19, 2015 Report Share Posted August 19, 2015 The Liberals appointed a few party 'bagmen" too. No doubt. Which is why the Senate's constitutional purpose has to become understood.....AGAIN..... by all parties, and appointments made for that purpose. If it was deteriorating, Harper had ten years to turn it around. Instead, he chose to allow a greater slide into abject partisanship, now followed by active neglect. so far, the only party that has publicly expressed an interest in returning the senate lo its constitutional role, is the Liberals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topaz Posted August 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 19, 2015 socialist, if Harper was a the leader of another party would you still defend him? Which means more to you Harper or the Tory party? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted August 19, 2015 Report Share Posted August 19, 2015 socialist, if Harper was a the leader of another party would you still defend him? Which means more to you Harper or the Tory party? A better question - if Harper were facing a better opponent than Trudeau, would we be defending him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evening Star Posted August 19, 2015 Report Share Posted August 19, 2015 He is! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted August 19, 2015 Report Share Posted August 19, 2015 He is! I don't think that Trudeau is better, and I'm not yet ready to consider the NDP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evening Star Posted August 19, 2015 Report Share Posted August 19, 2015 Well, I was responding to "If [Harper] were facing a better opponent than Trudeau..." His main opponent atm is Mulcair, who I do think is better than Trudeau. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
socialist Posted August 19, 2015 Report Share Posted August 19, 2015 socialist, if Harper was a the leader of another party would you still defend him? Which means more to you Harper or the Tory party? I really have no problems with Harper anymore. I'd say he's been a solid, consistent leader. My financial situation has been better under the CPC than it was under the Liberals. I don't get worked up over the phony, agenda-driven scandals of the CBC and Toronto Star. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
socialist Posted August 19, 2015 Report Share Posted August 19, 2015 cause your boy Harper isn't accountable for anything... and isn't responsible for anything... and it's not his fault that his Senate nominations have blown up on him, big time... blown up reeeal good! Why dont you take a break, your 10 hours of bleating and praying that this is some sort of scandal must be tiring.. Making up all that BS has to be stressful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
socialist Posted August 19, 2015 Report Share Posted August 19, 2015 This trial is called the diversion game. As long as the lefties can keep the focus on Puffy, the less it's on their own election platforms, the things which actually MATTER TO VOTERS! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vancouver King Posted August 19, 2015 Report Share Posted August 19, 2015 This trial is called the diversion game. As long as the lefties can keep the focus on Puffy, the less it's on their own election platforms, the things which actually MATTER TO VOTERS! What matters to 7 of 10 voters is turning Stephen Harper out to pasture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topaz Posted August 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 19, 2015 As the trial continues, the top guy are being question and after Wright is lawyer Perrin, and if may also reveal a connection with the 90,000 and the coverup with other like Novak and maybe even the PM. http://www.macleans.ca/politics/ottawa/what-did-ray-know-an-explosive-day-in-the-mike-duffy-trial/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
socialist Posted August 19, 2015 Report Share Posted August 19, 2015 What matters to 7 of 10 voters is turning Stephen Harper out to pasture. 7 out of 10 won't vote for JT or Tom, either. But then I'm sure FPTP will be fine. i Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
socialist Posted August 19, 2015 Report Share Posted August 19, 2015 Well, I was responding to "If [Harper] were facing a better opponent than Trudeau..." His main opponent atm is Mulcair, who I do think is better than Trudeau. And yet if you try to convince the left that the press is hostile towards the Conservatives, they'll refuse to believe it. This trial is glaring proof of that bias, and I'm actually chuffed that at least one guy had the guts to take them to task for it (at yesterdays press conference). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted August 19, 2015 Report Share Posted August 19, 2015 The NDP apparently cheat too, but you don't care about that. Name any fraud charges brought against them or electoral laws that they've broken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted August 19, 2015 Report Share Posted August 19, 2015 You are being deceptive, again! Harper has never, ever said he fired Wright. It is correct by saying that Harper said he dismissed Wright. Wright resigned, Harper accepted the resignation and thereby dismissed Wright. If words have no meaning to you, then there's no point discussing anything with you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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