Argus Posted September 23, 2015 Report Posted September 23, 2015 Why are you making excuses for him? He made racist and misogynistic remarks yet you're not attacking him for it....why? Nobody would consider those remarks racist or misogynistic. Unless, of course, Harper spoke them. "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Derek 2.0 Posted September 28, 2015 Report Posted September 28, 2015 And another Trudeau gaffe on terrorists remaining in Canada and in print: CTV News has obtained a recording leaked by the Conservative Party of Justin Trudeau’s answer in July to a question about Bill C-24, a law that allows dual citizens – those who are convicted terrorists – to be stripped of Canadian citizenship and deported. The Liberal Leader began his answer by mocking Conservatives for their attack ads and calling attention to the portion of the answer that might be chosen for a future ad: “The Liberal Party believes that terrorists should get to keep their Canadian citizenship ... because I do,” Trudeau told a Winnipeg town hall in July. “And I'm willing to take on anyone who disagrees with that.
PIK Posted September 28, 2015 Report Posted September 28, 2015 Go to our website and add it up with a calculator and then you will know. Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
On Guard for Thee Posted September 28, 2015 Report Posted September 28, 2015 And another Trudeau gaffe on terrorists remaining in Canada and in print:It's been discussed elsewhere already, and not everybody agrees that pointing out how important not having a two tiered citizenship program is a gaffe. I would also prefer to hand a convicted terrorist a life sentence than a ticket to Syria.
Ask Your Mother Posted October 1, 2015 Report Posted October 1, 2015 This forum seems extremely biased towards Conservatives.
PIK Posted October 1, 2015 Report Posted October 1, 2015 It's been discussed elsewhere already, and not everybody agrees that pointing out how important not having a two tiered citizenship program is a gaffe. I would also prefer to hand a convicted terrorist a life sentence than a ticket to Syria. Why because justin told you so. Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
On Guard for Thee Posted October 1, 2015 Report Posted October 1, 2015 Why because justin told you so. No, just the application of good old common sense.
Keepitsimple Posted October 1, 2015 Report Posted October 1, 2015 No, just the application of good old common sense. You're right On Guard - there is two-tiered citizenship....one for the terrorists - and one for everyone else! Back to Basics
On Guard for Thee Posted October 1, 2015 Report Posted October 1, 2015 You're right On Guard - there is two-tiered citizenship....one for the terrorists - and one for everyone else!Based on the current desires of the PM. Not a smart way to arrange the legal system. Oh well, more work for the SCC I guess.
angrypenguin Posted October 1, 2015 Report Posted October 1, 2015 You're right On Guard - there is two-tiered citizenship....one for the terrorists - and one for everyone else! +1. When the lefties agree with Harper on this....I'm just saying. Trudeau and Mulcair both botched this one. My views are my own and not those of my employer.
Argus Posted October 1, 2015 Report Posted October 1, 2015 No, just the application of good old common sense. Are you aware you can be stripped of your acquired citizenship in other immigrant countries like the US and UK and Australia? "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
angrypenguin Posted October 1, 2015 Report Posted October 1, 2015 Are you aware you can be stripped of your acquired citizenship in other immigrant countries like the US and UK and Australia? As well as France. Maybe they'll finally strip Mulcair of his French citizenship then, since he's a terrorist to our economy My views are my own and not those of my employer.
SpankyMcFarland Posted October 8, 2015 Report Posted October 8, 2015 The biggest gaffe by the Conservatives was focusing on Trudeau so much. Once he got on the road, his energy, resilience, optimism and charm began to counteract his limitations. He has turned out to be an excellent campaigner in the Dubya style.
Argus Posted October 9, 2015 Report Posted October 9, 2015 (edited) The biggest gaffe by the Conservatives was focusing on Trudeau so much. Once he got on the road, his energy, resilience, optimism and charm began to counteract his limitations. Uhm, no. What turned the Liberals fortunes around was the same election strategy his father employed for so many years. Promise people tons of expensive goodies, but don't raise their taxes to pay for it. Just borrow. This is also the strategy the Greeks employed for years, by the way, and the Italians. Edited October 9, 2015 by Argus "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
angrypenguin Posted October 9, 2015 Report Posted October 9, 2015 (edited) This forum seems extremely biased towards Conservatives. You're nuts. It's the other way around. Full stop! Uhm, no. What turned the Liberals fortunes around was the same election strategy his father employed for so many years. Promise people tons of expensive goodies, but don't raise their taxes to pay for it. Just borrow. This is also the strategy the Greeks employed for years, by the way, and the Italians. Precisely. The problem with the Lefties? entitlement. If you can't afford kids, too fricking bad. It's not your damn right! Edited October 9, 2015 by angrypenguin My views are my own and not those of my employer.
ToadBrother Posted October 9, 2015 Report Posted October 9, 2015 Precisely. The problem with the Lefties? entitlement. If you can't afford kids, too fricking bad. It's not your damn right! If we don't start having more kids in this country, we're going to have to allow more immigrants. And yes, having children is an inherent right.
angrypenguin Posted October 9, 2015 Report Posted October 9, 2015 (edited) If we don't start having more kids in this country, we're going to have to allow more immigrants. And yes, having children is an inherent right. No, it's not your right. If you can't afford kids, then don't come begging me for help. I don't care what happens to them. There are no heart strings that you can pull from me to support your children. If it came down to it. You have 0 rights to a child if you can't afford it. Edited October 9, 2015 by angrypenguin My views are my own and not those of my employer.
bush_cheney2004 Posted October 9, 2015 Report Posted October 9, 2015 If we don't start having more kids in this country, we're going to have to allow more immigrants. And yes, having children is an inherent right. Is it ? See Canada's "Sterilization Acts" in several provinces. Lawsuits are still pending. Economics trumps Virtue.
ToadBrother Posted October 9, 2015 Report Posted October 9, 2015 Is it ? See Canada's "Sterilization Acts" in several provinces. Lawsuits are still pending. Governments do vile things. Fortunately in most liberal democracies there is at least some chance of recompense.
SpankyMcFarland Posted October 9, 2015 Report Posted October 9, 2015 Uhm, no. What turned the Liberals fortunes around was the same election strategy his father employed for so many years. Promise people tons of expensive goodies, but don't raise their taxes to pay for it. Just borrow. This is also the strategy the Greeks employed for years, by the way, and the Italians. Uhm, yes. The nice hair ads are an instant classic, given how nice Harper's own hair is. They seriously underestimated him. He's likeable which is lot more than anybody can say about the current incumbent You really want to talk about deficits under Conservative and Liberal governments in the the last thirty yeas?
PIK Posted October 9, 2015 Report Posted October 9, 2015 Spanky , chretien had it made in the sun while he was PM. Harper has had to deal with a lot of more serious issues. Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
ironstone Posted October 9, 2015 Report Posted October 9, 2015 All of Trudeau's gaffes don't seem to have hurt him too much in the long term.If anyone listens to what he states about our economy,it's clear he's kind of clueless. What is the matter with society today when likeability and looks often will trump competence in the positions that truly matter?Trudeau is better suited for E-talk than politics. "Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." Thomas Sowell
Argus Posted October 9, 2015 Report Posted October 9, 2015 Uhm, yes. The nice hair ads are an instant classic, given how nice Harper's own hair is. They seriously underestimated him. He's likeable which is lot more than anybody can say about the current incumbent And yet, despite his 'likeability' his campaign was going nowhere until he started releasing plans for big time spending. Maybe you like him because he's going to give you stuff. I don't feel the same given he insists I pay for it. And likeability? Every time I see him speaking he seems to be shouting self-righteously about something or other. You really want to talk about deficits under Conservative and Liberal governments in the the last thirty yeas? Sure. Go for it. Trudeau's father started the debt, quadrupling spending just in time for 20% interest rates. Mulroney had to cope with huge debt payments on top of double digit inflation because of Trudeau's 11 deficits. It's hard to blame him a lot given the circumstances. Chretien had four years of deficits before the world economy returned to health, and then years of surpluses, sure, with the help of the GST he'd fought tooth and nail against. Harper had a couple of years of surpluses until the financial collapse, where any government in power would have run big deficits (or do you think otherwise?). For all the sniveling from the left on the issue of Harper's deficits none like to mention that the NDP and Liberals were so shrill on the need for huge deficit spending they tried a putsch to take over, ostensibly so they could implement it. Which makes it even more damingly hypocritical that Mulcair and Trudeau never shut up about it. Now Trudeau is promising more deficits, just as we've balanced the damn budget, deficits he proposes ending after a few years, if economic growth is way higher than economists forecast and he can find hidden money under the seat cushions somewhere. "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
poochy Posted October 9, 2015 Report Posted October 9, 2015 (edited) And yet, despite his 'likeability' his campaign was ---SNIP--- forecast and he can find hidden money under the seat cushions somewhere. Excellent argument, unfortunately you are speaking to people who's ability to rationalize these truth's extends as far as, conservatives mean, Harper mean, Trudeau nice, and no farther than that. There is litterally nothing that could happen to change their minds. Edited October 9, 2015 by Charles Anthony [---SNIP---]
ToadBrother Posted October 9, 2015 Report Posted October 9, 2015 For all the sniveling from the left on the issue of Harper's deficits none like to mention that the NDP and Liberals were so shrill on the need for huge deficit spending they tried a putsch to take over, ostensibly so they could implement it. I love how, when it serves their purposes, the Tories proclaim themselves responsible for the post-2008 stimulus spending, but then can turn around in a heartbeat and blame the Opposition.
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