Argus Posted March 20, 2015 Report Posted March 20, 2015 So having a record or drinking a beer is some sort of reason that somehow offsets being murdered...I guess we can say at least the bigotry is not just aimed at one particular non white culture. How inclusive! What a pathetic response to the information provided. Why are you even on this site given your nearly complete inability to discuss anything intelligently? Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Keepitsimple Posted March 20, 2015 Report Posted March 20, 2015 (edited) What a pathetic response to the information provided. Why are you even on this site given your nearly complete inability to discuss anything intelligently? Yes, he or she has made quite a reputation for shallow, drive-by comments......reminds me of one of the Seven Dwarves....now let me see.....Bashful, Doc, Grumpy, Happy, Sleepy, Sneezy......no wait, it's on the tip of my tongue...... Edited March 20, 2015 by Keepitsimple Quote Back to Basics
eyeball Posted March 20, 2015 Report Posted March 20, 2015 (edited) So should we force Muslim men or women to comply with our standards or just let their kids and grandkids straighten them out? If Harper was as clever as he's supposed to be he should be able to turn this into a traditional Canadian immigrant family values issue. Edited March 20, 2015 by eyeball Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
On Guard for Thee Posted March 20, 2015 Report Posted March 20, 2015 What a pathetic response to the information provided. Why are you even on this site given your nearly complete inability to discuss anything intelligently? Sometimes the suggestions in your posts require no better. Quote
Argus Posted March 20, 2015 Report Posted March 20, 2015 (edited) Sometimes the suggestions in your posts require no better. *****. You aren't capable of any better. There was nothing in my post but statistical information from the RCMP which sweeps away the comp;aints that aboriginal women are being subjected to anything but the same high crime rate of aboriginal men - with the same crime solution rate. And when you see your position evaporating you resort to insults. Pathetic. Edited March 21, 2015 by Michael Hardner Profanity removed Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
On Guard for Thee Posted March 20, 2015 Report Posted March 20, 2015 (edited) *****. You aren't capable of any better. There was nothing in my post but statistical information from the RCMP which sweeps away the comp;aints that aboriginal women are being subjected to anything but the same high crime rate of aboriginal men - with the same crime solution rate. And when you see your position evaporating you resort to insults. Pathetic. Naw, thats your strategy. Been pointed out various times that Ive seen. Edited March 21, 2015 by Michael Hardner Profanity removed Quote
poochy Posted March 20, 2015 Report Posted March 20, 2015 What a pathetic response to the information provided. Why are you even on this site given your nearly complete inability to discuss anything intelligently? Yes, absolutely, it's all this poster knows, the facts are laid bare for all to see, this doesnt mean there isnt forces that create conditions for these high rates of homicides, but it is undeniable that this isn't some unknown that requires more study. Quote
poochy Posted March 20, 2015 Report Posted March 20, 2015 Naw, thats your strategy. Been pointed out various times that Ive seen. The same ad hominem every time you lose an argument, and because your entire belief system is a logical fallacy, it happens often. Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted March 20, 2015 Report Posted March 20, 2015 The same ad hominem every time you lose an argument, and because your entire belief system is a logical fallacy, it happens often. Ill try that the next time I lose one. Quote
Argus Posted March 20, 2015 Report Posted March 20, 2015 Naw, thats your strategy. Been pointed out various times that Ive seen. By people of your ilk who insist on throwing insults around and then act indignant when they get tossed back in your face. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted March 20, 2015 Report Posted March 20, 2015 Ill try that the next time I lose one. That would be now. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
On Guard for Thee Posted March 20, 2015 Report Posted March 20, 2015 By people of your ilk who insist on throwing insults around and then act indignant when they get tossed back in your face. Take a read back through the history, see how often you have been called out for just that very thing. Quote
dre Posted March 20, 2015 Report Posted March 20, 2015 The regulation prohibits all face coverings. If you want to allow the niqab you also need to allow KKK hoods. Do KKK hoods represent Canadian values? Yeah! Because freedom of racist expression is guaranteed in the constition the same way religious expression is.... rolls eyes. Quote I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger
Smallc Posted March 20, 2015 Report Posted March 20, 2015 Yeah! Because freedom of racist expression is guaranteed in the constition the same way religious expression is.... rolls eyes. Not that I'm defending it, but, it is. Quote
Argus Posted March 20, 2015 Report Posted March 20, 2015 Take a read back through the history, see how often you have been called out for just that very thing. By people of your ilk who are incapable of intelligent discussion. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Moonlight Graham Posted March 20, 2015 Report Posted March 20, 2015 (edited) The Canadian Left is so politically-correct, it's sickening. For heaven's sake, the Niqab is banned from government and/or public places in many countries - including Muslim countries like Turkey and Tunisia. You can throw countries like France, Belgium, Spain and the Netherlands into the mix. And here in good old Canada, some are arguing that it should be allowed when taking the oath of citizenship. Talk about being off-base - how about off-planet! But the thing is, any law/policy has to be constitutional under the Charter of Rights and Freedoms. They wear the niqab for religious purposes, so there isn't much even the Harper gov can do. They're almost certainly going to lose their appeal with the courts, the ban won't pass the Oakes Test. In the end, it's just a piece of cloth over a woman's face. Unless any given Muslim threatens violence against a woman if she doesn't want to wear the Niqab, there's nothing illegal about it & they have every right to wear it, even though it is a strange custom to us. Drinking the blood of a man who walked on water and magically rose to heaven after he died is also strange but nothing we can do. Edited March 20, 2015 by Moonlight Graham Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
Keepitsimple Posted March 21, 2015 Report Posted March 21, 2015 But the thing is, any law/policy has to be constitutional under the Charter of Rights and Freedoms. They wear the niqab for religious purposes, so there isn't much even the Harper gov can do. They're almost certainly going to lose their appeal with the courts, the ban won't pass the Oakes Test. In the end, it's just a piece of cloth over a woman's face. Unless any given Muslim threatens violence against a woman if she doesn't want to wear the Niqab, there's nothing illegal about it & they have every right to wear it, even though it is a strange custom to us. Drinking the blood of a man who walked on water and magically rose to heaven after he died is also strange but nothing we can do. Nothing we can do? Hello! It's our country- and in any other environment, a team, corporate, you have to earn your way into the mix. We seem to have lost track of that. Supposedly - that's why we have steps to go through before you get your citizenship. Our Constitution and Charter and the rights therein never foresaw some of the situations that we are faced with today - terrorism, Niqabs, Burkhas.....that's why it's important that our Supreme Court be given guidance by Parliament on some of these issues. Intuitively, Canadians know that something is amiss when people like yourself throw up your hands and say there is nothing that we can do. Sure there is.......and the Niqab/Oath is but one small step towards righting things. Quote Back to Basics
Queenmandy85 Posted March 21, 2015 Report Posted March 21, 2015 Is it just me (probably), or does anyone else see the irony that the Canadian Government is trying to force women to not wear the Niqab while the Iranian Government is forcing women to wear the hijab. Quote A Conservative stands for God, King and Country
Big Guy Posted March 21, 2015 Report Posted March 21, 2015 I find it silly when any government decides that it has the right to dictate to any person what fashion they can embrace. Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
On Guard for Thee Posted March 21, 2015 Report Posted March 21, 2015 By people of your ilk who are incapable of intelligent discussion. Thanks for making my point. Quote
poochy Posted March 21, 2015 Report Posted March 21, 2015 Ill try that the next time I lose one. I almost beleive that you don't know it when it happens, but you go back to that same posting pattern every time you do, i doubt that is a coincidence or that even you are that obtuse. Quote
poochy Posted March 21, 2015 Report Posted March 21, 2015 But the thing is, any law/policy has to be constitutional under the Charter of Rights and Freedoms. They wear the niqab for religious purposes, so there isn't much even the Harper gov can do. They're almost certainly going to lose their appeal with the courts, the ban won't pass the Oakes Test. In the end, it's just a piece of cloth over a woman's face. Unless any given Muslim threatens violence against a woman if she doesn't want to wear the Niqab, there's nothing illegal about it & they have every right to wear it, even though it is a strange custom to us. Drinking the blood of a man who walked on water and magically rose to heaven after he died is also strange but nothing we can do. So, do we exist to serve the constitution, or is it the other way around? Quote
poochy Posted March 21, 2015 Report Posted March 21, 2015 I find it silly when any government decides that it has the right to dictate to any person what fashion they can embrace. Of course your entire premise that it's a fashion is the real joke here, how many non muslim women engage in this fashion? When has the oppresion of women in western society become fashionable? Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted March 21, 2015 Report Posted March 21, 2015 (edited) I almost beleive that you don't know it when it happens, but you go back to that same posting pattern every time you do, i doubt that is a coincidence or that even you are that obtuse. Who knows what you almost believe. But you have drifted along way from why women wear niqabs with what you almost believe. Edited March 21, 2015 by On Guard for Thee Quote
cybercoma Posted March 21, 2015 Author Report Posted March 21, 2015 Not that I'm defending it, but, it is. Not in Canada it isn't. We have hate speech laws. Quote
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