Canada_First Posted September 23, 2015 Report Posted September 23, 2015 And this what you have said: Doesn't sound much like "precision strike" Yes exactly. Precision strikes. Tactical nukes. Thats the answer. Melt the Islamists where they stand. Broker peace between Iran and Israel. They can become strong allies and rule the ME together.
GostHacked Posted September 23, 2015 Report Posted September 23, 2015 (edited) Ghost go to post 150 then tell me about iies. You used this thread to try ridicule why Israel has had to take in what you call immigrants which has nothing to do with the topic of the thread. You provide a classic example of using a thread as a pretext to piss on Israel for existing as a Jewish nation and saving Jews who had no home to go to which has nothing to do with the topic but shows once again how the same group of people will start threads on a supposed topic but use it as a platform to ridicule Jews for starting a nation because they had to flee the holocaust or expulsion from Arab League nations or persecution in Iran, Ethiopia, Russia. You want to deny what you said? The law of the 'right of return' compared to the notion of immigration. Think about it for a second or two. Because I am wondering if your stance might be more racist (or religious-ist) than mine. Edited September 24, 2015 by GostHacked
Canada_First Posted September 24, 2015 Report Posted September 24, 2015 The law of the 'right of return' compared to the notion of immigration. Think about it for a second or two. Because I am wondering if your stance might be more racist (or religious-ist) than mine.Israel exists to give Jews a safe place to live do the Holocaust can never happen again.
marcus Posted September 24, 2015 Report Posted September 24, 2015 At this point the thread is dead and discusses topics not related to the original pretext Not to worry. Israel continues to violate international law. "What do you think of Western civilization?" Gandhi was asked. "I think it would be a good idea," he said.
bush_cheney2004 Posted September 24, 2015 Report Posted September 24, 2015 Not to worry. Israel continues to violate international law. As well it should. Launch rockets...get bombed. That's also "international law". Economics trumps Virtue.
marcus Posted September 24, 2015 Report Posted September 24, 2015 As well it should. Launch rockets...get bombed. That's also "international law". Yes. Let us pretend there is nothing before the "launch rockets -> get bombed" narrative. Oh and let us pretend that the law says you can't just carpet bomb people. "What do you think of Western civilization?" Gandhi was asked. "I think it would be a good idea," he said.
bush_cheney2004 Posted September 24, 2015 Report Posted September 24, 2015 Yes. Let us pretend there is nothing before the "launch rockets -> get bombed" narrative. Doesn't matter. Hell, Canada is just "carpet bombing" brown people far across the sea without ever being attacked by rockets. Economics trumps Virtue.
marcus Posted September 24, 2015 Report Posted September 24, 2015 without ever being attacked by rockets. Your narrative is superficial because it's missing a large chunk of the story. Give back their land, air and water and allow them to create their own state, then, if they launch a rocket, you'd have a point. "What do you think of Western civilization?" Gandhi was asked. "I think it would be a good idea," he said.
bush_cheney2004 Posted September 24, 2015 Report Posted September 24, 2015 Your narrative is superficial because it's missing a large chunk of the story. Give back their land, air and water and allow them to create their own state, then, if they launch a rocket, you'd have a point. And you choose to ignore the obvious comparison to your own country "carpet bombing" people far away with no chunk of any story, while insisting on adherence to "international law" by Israel. This is called "cognitive dissonance". Rocket attacks on Israel will be met with military force. It is not complicated. Economics trumps Virtue.
Rue Posted September 25, 2015 Report Posted September 25, 2015 (edited) Ghost Hacked the tired canard of suggesting Israel's right of return is racist has been debated on this board ad infinitum. There are over 150 nations with a law of return expediting immigration for specific ethnic groups no different than Israel's. As well for you to suggest Israel is racist because it had to expedite the entry of Jews into Israel is a good one since you refuse to acknowledge it was done in direct reaction to anti-semitism and precisely because no one would take those Jews in after WW2, and Arab League nations expelled 900,000 of them forbeing Jews. Using your logic, one who flees discrimination and sets up a state refuge from it is a bigot. Brilliant What is also interesting is you ignore the fact that the Arab nations of the Middle East will not take in non Muslims. That you skip over in your selective suggestion Israel's law of return is somehow unique and racist. Not one peep from you that Muslim states are racist or the Vatican is racist for being a Catholic state or yegads Britain is racist for being an Anglican state. No not you You save that for Jews. Only Jews. Yah I get it. anyone can have a state but not Jews. If a Jew does it, presto, its racist, As you have been told repeatedly, your use of the word race to define what a Jew is shows exactly where your head is at and why you have no clue what th law of return in Israel, what a Jew is is let alone what Zionism is but will cling to your false myths as to what you think they all mean. Israel and its law of return does not and has never defined a Jew as a race. Jews come in every colour, shade and genetic predisposition. But hey knock yourself out calling Jews a race. I mean you do have good company in that Hitler and white supremacists did and still do. Its good company. Most people have moved on however. You have zero credibility singling out Israel's law of return while ignoring the over 150 nations that also have them let alone the fact that Muslim nations of the ME will not accept non Muslims as citizens. Your selective standard is a crock. Need I remind you this thread was to piss on Israel for engaging in war crimes in Gaza while ignoring what Hamas and other terrorists groups do to Palestinians. That was the topic. You now recycle the Israel is racist canard which has nothing to do with the thread but proves how such threads are used simply a pretext to piss on Israel for existing as a Jewish state, Edited September 25, 2015 by Rue
Hudson Jones Posted September 29, 2015 Author Report Posted September 29, 2015 You have zero credibility singling out Israel's law of return while ignoring the over 150 nations that also have them let alone the fact that Muslim nations of the ME will not accept non Muslims as citizens. Your selective standard is a crock. 150 nations have immigrated into a land from around the world, pushed out over 700,000 of its people from their homes and are not allowing them to go back? Better start listing these nations. Let us know which countries Israel is in par with. Need I remind you this thread was to piss on Israel for engaging in war crimes in Gaza while ignoring what Hamas and other terrorists groups do to Palestinians. You have no credibility. Because you try to equate what Hamas does to what Israel does. Speaking of war crimes: The Israeli army indiscriminately and deliberately targeted civilians during a brutal 2014 assault known as "Black Friday", according to a new report on last summer's Gaza war. The joint study by Amnesty International and Forensic Architecture, released on Wednesday, cites "strong evidence" of war crimes and possible crimes against humanity on August 1, 2014, as Israeli forces bombarded residential areas in Rafah in retaliation for the capture of one of its soldiers. "There is overwhelming evidence that Israeli forces committed disproportionate, or otherwise indiscriminate, attacks which killed scores of civilians in their homes, on the streets and in vehicles and injured many more," notes the report. "This includes repeatedly firing artillery and other imprecise explosive weapons in densely populated civilian areas… In some cases, there are indications that they directly fired at and killed civilians, including people fleeing." When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always. Gandhi
Big Guy Posted September 30, 2015 Report Posted September 30, 2015 Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas declared before world leaders Wednesday that he is no longer bound by agreements signed with Israel, and called on the United Nations to provide international protection for the Palestinian people. It was Abbas' most serious warning yet that he might walk away from engagement with Israel and dissolve the Palestinian Authority, although he stopped short of accompanying his threat with a deadline. http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/M/ML_UNITED_NATIONS_SUMMIT_PALESTINIANS?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2015-09-30-13-06-20 These Palestinians will just not keep quiet and just go away! Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
Big Guy Posted October 6, 2015 Report Posted October 6, 2015 The right wing Jewish settlers continue to attack the arabs while the Netanyahu government turns a blind eye. http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/2015/10/palestinians-targeted-surge-settler-violence-151005094440784.html And you wonder why the Palestinian flag is now flying at the UN and Israel is becoming a world pariah. Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
marcus Posted October 8, 2015 Report Posted October 8, 2015 Look at these criminals: WATCH: Israeli undercover agents shoot unarmed youth at point blank range Link "What do you think of Western civilization?" Gandhi was asked. "I think it would be a good idea," he said.
Big Guy Posted October 8, 2015 Report Posted October 8, 2015 This is just another "measured response" by Israel to outrageous Palestinian violence. If you can invade a country and kill 2,000 civilians because somebody is tossing wonky home made rockets at you then you rightly shoot unarmed protestors. Besides, what are the Palestinians doing in Palestine anyway? Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
Big Guy Posted October 9, 2015 Report Posted October 9, 2015 With world attention focussed on Syria, the Israei killing of unarmed Palestinian protestors increases: http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/10/israel-opens-fire-palestinians-gaza-border-151009114132806.html There had been the occasional shooting of an unarmed protestor but it was an "accident". In this last one there were 6 killed and dozens injured by "accident". Time for Canada to wash our hands of Israel and look to Iran as our partner in the Middle East. Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
Argus Posted October 10, 2015 Report Posted October 10, 2015 Look at these criminals: WATCH: Israeli undercover agents shoot unarmed youth at point blank range Throw stones at me and I'll shoot you too. "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted October 10, 2015 Report Posted October 10, 2015 I tend to leave these sorts of threads for the Jew haters to post their vitriol to each other, but I noticed a strong uptick in Palestinians attacking and stabbing Jews lately, old Jews, young Jews, women Jews, any Jew will do, you know, so thought I'd have a gander, and as usual, they're ignoring Palestinian violence and focusing on Israeli responses. The Palestinians recent spate of violence is inspired by rumors that the Dome of the Rock might be polluted by Jews, that some Jew might go there or maybe breath the same air. That's why Palestinian religious wackos are stabbing Jews and was the reason for the violent, stone throwing mob to attack the IDF. Naturally, all the Jew haters care about is the response. http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-34463701 "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
marcus Posted October 11, 2015 Report Posted October 11, 2015 I tend to leave these sorts of threads for the Jew haters to post their vitriol to each other, but I noticed a strong uptick in Palestinians attacking and stabbing Jews lately Did you get bored of making racist and bigoted comments towards Muslims in the Federal threads and decided to bring it here? In a fascist state and those who condone fascism, it's okay to shoot a person when you've dragging them away. Because that's how fascists roll. "What do you think of Western civilization?" Gandhi was asked. "I think it would be a good idea," he said.
bush_cheney2004 Posted October 11, 2015 Report Posted October 11, 2015 ....In a fascist state and those who condone fascism, it's okay to shoot a person when you've dragging them away. Because that's how fascists roll. True, but in general, it is always OK to shoot terrorists. Terrorists may as well be wearing t-shirts that say "Shoot Me Now". Economics trumps Virtue.
On Guard for Thee Posted October 11, 2015 Report Posted October 11, 2015 True, but in general, it is always OK to shoot terrorists. Terrorists may as well be wearing t-shirts that say "Shoot Me Now".I guess YOU would include all Palestinians in that group? Sounds about right.
marcus Posted October 11, 2015 Report Posted October 11, 2015 True, but in general, it is always OK to shoot terrorists. Terrorists may as well be wearing t-shirts that say "Shoot Me Now". Are all Palestinians terrorists to you? All those kids throwing rocks are terrorists? Let me guess, the Palestinians stabbing people are terrorists but the Israeli Jews who are stabbing, are not? "What do you think of Western civilization?" Gandhi was asked. "I think it would be a good idea," he said.
Big Guy Posted October 11, 2015 Report Posted October 11, 2015 The use of the term "terrorist" has come home to roost. The Russians are now bombing Syrian rebels who are supported by the Western coalition. They are using the same definition of terrorism to describe these rebels because they are using the same tactics as those other guys who we are calling terrorists. The Russians are bombing terrorists (according to them) by our definition. The Americans have yet to explain the difference - except that the guys we like are freedom fighters and those other guys are terrorists. Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
Argus Posted October 11, 2015 Report Posted October 11, 2015 Did you get bored of making racist and bigoted comments towards Muslims in the Federal threads and decided to bring it here? I've never made any such statements, but thanks for laying bare your intellectual bankruptcy - again. "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
GostHacked Posted October 11, 2015 Report Posted October 11, 2015 The use of the term "terrorist" has come home to roost. The Russians are now bombing Syrian rebels who are supported by the Western coalition. They are using the same definition of terrorism to describe these rebels because they are using the same tactics as those other guys who we are calling terrorists. The Russians are bombing terrorists (according to them) by our definition. The Americans have yet to explain the difference - except that the guys we like are freedom fighters and those other guys are terrorists. With the recent suicide bombings in Turkey, the notion of who are the good guys get even more murky.
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