marcus Posted February 16, 2015 Report Posted February 16, 2015 Having a safe place to live in (like Montreal, New York, L.A., etc are not safe *sarcasm*), is all good and dandy, but not at the expense of stealing another people's land and violating their human rights. Not sure if you are capable of understanding that. "What do you think of Western civilization?" Gandhi was asked. "I think it would be a good idea," he said.
jacee Posted February 16, 2015 Report Posted February 16, 2015 Having a safe place to live in (like Montreal, New York, L.A., etc are not safe *sarcasm*), is all good and dandy, but not at the expense of stealing another people's land and violating their human rights. Not sure if you are capable of understanding that. If Israel stays within its borders, no problem. .
Big Guy Posted August 26, 2015 Report Posted August 26, 2015 (edited) Some interesting developments of information of what happened during the latest Israeli "expedition" into Gaza: http://www.aljazeera.com/programmes/peopleandpower/2015/08/gaza-deadly-assaults-150819123206173.html The Israeli soldiers interviewed have interesting points of view. The "Hannibal Directive" does not appear to favor the potential captive. Edited August 26, 2015 by Big Guy Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
Big Guy Posted August 31, 2015 Report Posted August 31, 2015 Anyone wondering how Gaza has deteriorated into an outdoor jail in Southern Israel might find the following interesting: http://interactive.aljazeera.com/aje/2015/gazalifeoccupation/index.html It makes it difficult to believe that the UN has allowed one nation to do that to another. Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
Rue Posted September 1, 2015 Report Posted September 1, 2015 The Gaza strip was created by Gamel Abnel Nasser as holding cell for Palestinians who he despised and ridiculed and did not want migrating to Egypt. The fact you are unaware of that and think this only became an outdoor prison after Israel got involved again shows your ignorance as to its origins but your pretension you think you can lecture on its origins.
Rue Posted September 1, 2015 Report Posted September 1, 2015 What borders Jacee? You made a point of coming on this site and asking that question to others, no answer it. What borders? here's a hint, the PA, Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran, Syria, do not recognize any borders so before you trot out pre 1967 borders, be careful you wouldn't want to conflict with them on the fact they recognize NO borders of ANY Jewish state and when only the PA has referred to 67 borders it was with the condition attached this would not be a Jewish state border's and only temporary until the state would take in 5 million alleged Palestinians provided they were Muslim and then amalgamate the states. Oh but I know in your world pre 1967 has such a nice ring to it when you avoid all those other details.
kraychik Posted September 1, 2015 Report Posted September 1, 2015 What borders Jacee? You made a point of coming on this site and asking that question to others, no answer it. What borders? here's a hint, the PA, Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran, Syria, do not recognize any borders so before you trot out pre 1967 borders, be careful you wouldn't want to conflict with them on the fact they recognize NO borders of ANY Jewish state and when only the PA has referred to 67 borders it was with the condition attached this would not be a Jewish state border's and only temporary until the state would take in 5 million alleged Palestinians provided they were Muslim and then amalgamate the states. Oh but I know in your world pre 1967 has such a nice ring to it when you avoid all those other details. I have no idea how you have the patience to deal with these people. An utter waste of time.
marcus Posted September 1, 2015 Report Posted September 1, 2015 Haaretz editorial today calls this "the perfect picture of occupation" --true --it is also the perfect picture of Zionism, its history, ideology, program of action, right from Theodor Herzl to this IDF soldier, right from this young Palestinian boy back to the days of Nakbah-- The Haaretz editorial concludes: "An army that fights children and chases them as they flee is an army that has lost its conscience. The only way to change the situation is to change the reality. There is no other way." True--but changing this reality begins by declaring the murderous ideology that has generated and sustained it since the Nakbah is morally bankrupt, politically corrupt, and was doomed to failure from the get go--entangling the victim and the victimizer, the colonized and the colonizer in a vicious circle -- Just look at that picture: it is Abraham and Isaac--it is Abraham and Ishmael --will anyone look, will anyone learn? (http://www.haaretz.com/opinion/1.673691) "What do you think of Western civilization?" Gandhi was asked. "I think it would be a good idea," he said.
Big Guy Posted September 2, 2015 Report Posted September 2, 2015 Looks like the Israeli policy and actions to take over all of Palestine is working; http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/09/gaza-uninhabitable-2020-israel-palestine-150902065427364.html In about 5 years of the way Israel is squeezing and starving out those folks in that open jail called Gaza, even that jail will become uninhabitable. Yet the rest of the world sits on its hands and watches. Shame on us! Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
kactus Posted September 4, 2015 Report Posted September 4, 2015 (edited) I have no idea how you have the patience to deal with these people. An utter waste of time. Good old Nigel Farage representing the far right UKIP who made an idiot of himself in televised interview before general elections in UK. So happy he got his a** kicked by Tories. What a farce! Edited September 4, 2015 by kactus
Rue Posted September 4, 2015 Report Posted September 4, 2015 Kactus I appreciate you are using a translator but your last post is disjointed, makes no sense and is not even related to the thread. At least try relate what you are saying to the thread.
kactus Posted September 4, 2015 Report Posted September 4, 2015 Kactus I appreciate you are using a translator but your last post is disjointed, makes no sense and is not even related to the thread. At least try relate what you are saying to the thread. Rue.....Next time I wanted an opinion (especially yours) I would ask. Till that time spare me the lecture....The only thing that is disjointed is your incoherent arguments filled with bias and unsubstantiated remarks across this forum you claim as facts!. I can teach you English but fear that would be a waste of my time, essentially.
Rue Posted September 4, 2015 Report Posted September 4, 2015 So Kactus is it, what does this mean... "Good old Nigel Farage representing the far right UKIP who made an idiot of himself in a televised interview before general elections in UK.(sic) mean exactly. That is not a sentence. It expresses what sentiment, opinion or position? What does, "So happy he got his ass kicked by Tories.(sic) mean? It is another broken sentence? Its also interesting because in your latest response to me you suddenly are writing without fragmentation again. Since you seem to have regained clarity and full sentences, how about you explain what post 135 means? Its not even remotely close to what Kraychick stated to me. You can get all angry but the fact is you wrote broken, fragmented sentences with no connection between a subject and object. In fact I think I am corresponding with more than one person using the same name given the complete difference in syntax. Beyond me how one goes from an inability to write a sentence to suddenly doing just that. You catch my drift Kactus is it?
kactus Posted September 5, 2015 Report Posted September 5, 2015 Rue rue rue..... The only drift there is the smell of hash from you.... I have said before and repeat: pomoposity is an alluring trait and you're full of it. Don't flatter yourself with your english and grammer (or lack of it) You're literally butchering the language. Leave it Rue. Leave it...
Big Guy Posted September 5, 2015 Report Posted September 5, 2015 There are about 300,000 Syrian refugees. Therev are about 600,000 Palestinian refugees. The West is outraged at these Syrian civilians dying while trying to get out. Meanwhile, civilian Palestinian bodies have been found all over the Middle East for months - people who have been thrown off their land and now occupied by Israelis. Yet we do nothing to Israel. Time for Canada to wash our hands of Israel and its atrocities. We should have no association with those kind of war crimes. Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
Rue Posted September 5, 2015 Report Posted September 5, 2015 Lol Kactus is it, I haven't smoked hash in years. Lol. You kidding. Thanks though. Its nice to be thought of as a funk hipster dude. Seriously what was your point? I am trying to get something out of that. By the way as much as I do spell creatively on this forum its because I don't wear my glasses and have no spell check when writing on this forum. Come on the post you sent was not caused by that. I am writing now to who? What is your political point you were debating?
Big Guy Posted September 6, 2015 Report Posted September 6, 2015 The EU countries are accepting hundreds of thousands of refugees. Canada will accept anywhere from 10,000 (over 3 years) if Harper gets re-elected while the opposition parties promise two to three times that number. Lots of pressure building towards the humanitarian conscience of the world. Meanwhile, Natanyahu, speaking for Israel, has declared that humanitarian Israel will accept .... 0 refugees. That makes some sense. After all, Israel created about 600,000 Palestinian refugees and obviously has no room for anyone else except .... http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/07/world/middleeast/netanyahu-rejects-calls-to-accept-syrian-refugees.html?_r=0 This is the nation which our current government still supports and we looked the other way while it killed 2,000 civilians and hundreds of thousands of Palestinian refugees during their last excursion to expand their settlements. Time for Canada to wash our hands of anything to do with Israel. Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
jbg Posted September 7, 2015 Report Posted September 7, 2015 Looks like the Israeli policy and actions to take over all of Palestine is working; http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/09/gaza-uninhabitable-2020-israel-palestine-150902065427364.html In about 5 years of the way Israel is squeezing and starving out those folks in that open jail called Gaza, even that jail will become uninhabitable. Yet the rest of the world sits on its hands and watches. Shame on us! An open air jail with coital rights? Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
Big Guy Posted September 7, 2015 Report Posted September 7, 2015 (edited) An open air jail with coital rights? Not really, perhaps something more along the lines of how the Ukraine is treating displaced persons; http://www.kyivpost.com/multimedia/photo/jewish-refugees-from-ato-zone-find-a-new-home-near-kyiv-397269.html Netanyahu has a different approach to refugees: http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/09/israel-build-fence-refugees-150906125147720.html Edited September 7, 2015 by Big Guy Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
Rue Posted September 7, 2015 Report Posted September 7, 2015 Big Guy you really expect Israel to take in Syrians? Lol? You don't suggest the Arab League of Nations taken in Syrians, or Iran, just Israel and you want to be considered credible? Lol. You are well aware Israel has no place to put any refugees. It took in 10,000 Serbian Muslim refugees when the Arab League refused to take in 1. Where would you like them to put them Big Guy. Finish what you started Go on Big Guy explain how the Arab League who forced the original actual Palestinian refugees in camps and stated to the world they would keep them imprisoned until Israel was disbanded, explain how they are not responsible for them? Go on finish your tirade. Explain. You of course can not. Your posts have been lowered to simply throwing out anti Israel missives with zero substance.
kactus Posted September 7, 2015 Report Posted September 7, 2015 (edited) Big Guy you really expect Israel to take in Syrians? Lol? You don't suggest the Arab League of Nations taken in Syrians, or Iran, just Israel and you want to be considered credible? Lol. You are well aware Israel has no place to put any refugees. It took in 10,000 Serbian Muslim refugees when the Arab League refused to take in 1. Where would you like them to put them Big Guy. Finish what you started Go on Big Guy explain how the Arab League who forced the original actual Palestinian refugees in camps and stated to the world they would keep them imprisoned until Israel was disbanded, explain how they are not responsible for them? Go on finish your tirade. Explain. You of course can not. Your posts have been lowered to simply throwing out anti Israel missives with zero substance. And what makes YOU so sure that no other arab country or Turkey is accomodating for syrian refugees. Is that the best propaganda you can come up with to portray Israel as the sorry victim as you always do when it suits your agenda? Ahhhh poor Israel...Bleeding heart Edited September 7, 2015 by kactus
Big Guy Posted September 18, 2015 Report Posted September 18, 2015 Another wonky rocket lands somewhere in Israel and the Israeli Air Force retaliates: http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/09/israeli-fighter-jets-strike-security-base-gaza-strip-150918230203782.html The more things change the more they remain the same. Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
GostHacked Posted September 19, 2015 Report Posted September 19, 2015 (edited) Big Guy you really expect Israel to take in Syrians? Lol? You don't suggest the Arab League of Nations taken in Syrians, or Iran, just Israel and you want to be considered credible? Lol. You are well aware Israel has no place to put any refugees. It took in 10,000 Serbian Muslim refugees when the Arab League refused to take in 1. Israel has no place for refugees, but if you are an immigrating Jew, you can probably find a nice settlement in the West Bank to live in. Edited September 19, 2015 by GostHacked
Rue Posted September 19, 2015 Report Posted September 19, 2015 (edited) So Ghost the attempt to turn this thread into yet another Israel pissing pretext seems to have puttered and sputtered. Israel took in 10,000 Muslims during the Yugoslav civil war. The suggestion it should take in Syrians was not serious, it simply was an example of you anti Israelis on this board ridiculing Syrian refugees let alone Israel, exploiting their predicament. The last place Syrians would want to go is Israel. The vast majority were brought up to believe Israel and Jews are an enemy in need of wiping out. Syria leading up to, during and after WW2 was a Bath state modelled on Nazi Germany right down to its Gestapo (Mukbarat), military uniforms and goosestepping, riding pants and knee high boots which exist to this day in its dress uniform not to mention to the Nazi hats and salute. Syria along with Paraguay took in the vast majority of Nazi SS, gestapo, and elite government officials after WW2. These Nazis ran its military, police structure and Ministry of Communications which to this day spews out across the airwaves on political forums anti semetic bilge such as Israel should take in Syrians. Some of us Ghost are aware that for that reason many Syrians are on their way to Germany because they were brought up believing Germany is their friend because of the connection to Hitler. They very liberals in Germany welcoming them in they ridicule and despise. When they get there and realize today's version of Nazis are punk skin heads who hate them even more than Jews there will be blow back. Look at your response Ghost dripping in anti Jewishness. Tee hee. Israel will take in Jew sbut not Syrians teee hee. Why is it Ghost can you tell me why? When you brought up that tee hee giggle about Jews having a country for Jewish immigrants did you stop and think why? Well? Of course not. Israel was primarily created precisely because no one would take in Jews as refgees. Jews had no choice after the holocaust. You Germany didn't want them that's why they take in Syrians today. Its misplaced guilt for the past. In fact France was the only country in Europe who allowed Jews related to French citizens in and so did the US but their families had to sponsor them and the gov. never paid a penny for them. Other countries slammed the door shut except Holland, Czechoslovakia, Bulgaria and Denmark to a certain extent. That was it. Oh but in your world I know just like the others on this forum anti Israel you push this myth they could have stayed in Europe. Right. Israel exists for 2 reasons. 1-Jews had no place to go after the holocaust but back to their homeland and 2-they were fed up in the Muslim world being treated as dhimmi. In your world you ignore 1 and 2. Not in your world. Tee hee. Jews will only take in Jews. Hee hee. Never mind that not one country in the ME allows Jews or Palestinians as citizens. Tee hee. Let's skip that. Never mind Israel has provided Muslims who stayed in Israel all the rights none of their fellow Muslims have in the ME including the highest income. On no tee hee. We skip that. Got news for you, the mess in Syria, Lebanon, Iraq, all across the Arab League nations, in Iran, Africa, its a MUSLIM created mess and it begins and ends with Muslims. Muslims are incinerating each other while you try blame it on Jews and Christians. Save it, Save the scapegoating, the attempts at guilt transference. Save it. Been there done that, seen Muslims blow each other up with their hated. Save your guilt transference. Israel does and will continue to assist Jordan through Muslim and Christian charities tend to Syrian refugees. Save your giggles and concern for Russia, China, the Arab League, Iran, who as we speak will not take in refugees. Save your two faced standards.. Edited September 19, 2015 by Rue
GostHacked Posted September 20, 2015 Report Posted September 20, 2015 I am not Anti-Jew I am anti-Rue.
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