Terrorist Kills 6 in Philadelphia

[WestCoastRunner]

And the reality is... That if Mexican Narco terrorists were Muslims, you would be jumping up and down in rage about the "existential" threat they pose us. Sounds to me like you have the same dislike towards muslims has you accuse them of having towards us.

That is a good point. Across the western provinces, there have been numerous arrests of members of the Mexican Cartel. Not sure why these arrests don't receive prominent exposure. But there should certainly be far greater concern about this then currently exists.

La Familia gang members armed for 'human hunting,' police say - “The Family’s presence in Alberta should be of concern to Albertans,” Strang said Wednesday. “Their connection to Mexican cartels and MS-13 (also known as the Mara Salvatrucha gang) creates a linkage to violence that is incomprehensible to most.” According to ALERT, La Familia was trying to take over Alberta’s drug trade and was operating supply lines in Edmonton, Fort McMurray, Drayton Valley, Lloydminster and Red Deer.

“The Mexican cartels have actually been expanding their sphere of influence now for years, heavily into Europe and North Africa – and there had been a smaller presence in Canada,” he said.

How Mexico’s drug gangs set up shop in Vancouver RCMP intelligence has “established that Mexican cartel influence has increasingly affected criminal markets in Canada.” Consequently, criminal activity in Canada linked to Mexican cartels has become a national priority for the RCMP,” Cox said. The Vancouver Sun found major Vancouver cartel links in several U.S. prosecutions of Mexicans in the Sinaloa and La Familia gangs.

[eyeball]

I didn't argue that in any way whatsoever. I very clearly mocked the idea that the cartels pose any significant danger to the average Canadian or American, which is what another poster was suggesting.

Yes I know, your mockery is a phenomenal jaw dropper alright. Thanks for continuing to impress.

You're just getting mixed up and confused like you usually do.

You're just mistaking that for the varying degrees of stunned astonishment the utterly ridiculous notions behind just about every argument you've presented cause.

The basis you've provided for your mockery this time truly takes the cake.

Edited December 20, 2014 by eyeball

[eyeball]

Why do you suppose they hate Kurds? Why do you suppose they hate Shiites? Why do you suppose they hate the Christians there? Why do you suppose they hate the Yazidis? Why do you suppose they hate Jews?

Because the Sunnis are basically hated by everyone you mentioned and then some.

[WestCoastRunner]

60+ years and counting with no moves yet...As Argus said, that's preposterous, gibbering, idiocy.

I think you have English vocabulary problems exacerbating your poor reasoning skills and your nut-job theories

and this is all of the evidence we need to confirm you're not a rational or reasonable human being.

Your responses demonstrate your disregard and insulting comments to other posters here. Why do you need to insult? Do you think your insults carry any weight with your responses and validate your responses. Quite frankly, they turn me off and probably many other posters here. Why can't you respond to a post without insults to the poster? Do you think your response will not carry enough weight without insulting the poster?

[On Guard for Thee]

Your responses demonstrate your disregard and insulting comments to other posters here. Why do you need to insult? Do you think your insults carry any weight with your responses and validate your responses. Quite frankly, they turn me off and probably many other posters here. Why can't you respond to a post without insults to the poster? Do you think your response will not carry enough weight without insulting the poster?

It is interesting how some people get away with things on here, such as the insults you have just enumerated. I called a "spade" a spade, one who we all know of who trolls incessantly, and got suspended. I guess the mods have their favorite "spades" Oh well, I was doing much more important things like getting the Xmas shopping done.

[WestCoastRunner]

It is interesting how some people get away with things on here, such as the insults you have just enumerated. I called a "spade" a spade, one who we all know of who trolls incessantly, and got suspended. I guess the mods have their favorite "spades" Oh well, I was doing much more important things like getting the Xmas shopping done.Of cou

Of course there are favourites. I have no doubt of that and it has been demonstrated over and over again.

[On Guard for Thee]

Of course there are favourites. I have no doubt of that and it has been demonstrated over and over again

Of course there are favourites. I have no doubt of that and it has been demonstrated over and over again.

Well I think what I will do is just steel myself to ignoring the trolls. I guess if we all did that they would maybe go away and end up on some sort of troll oriented forum. At any rate the Xmas shopping was actually fun, mor eor less, and I ended up with some good books.

[Argus]

No its not "based on religion". Even if Israelis were purple people from another planet the outcome would be the same.

They aren't 'two groups of people' unless you count the fact some are Jews and some are Muslims!

[Argus]

Because the Sunnis are basically hated by everyone you mentioned and then some.

Cite?

[dre]

I didn't argue that in any way whatsoever. I very clearly mocked the idea that the cartels pose any significant danger to the average Canadian or American, which is what another poster was suggesting.

Youve mocked and made personal attacks against EB and GH but present no rational argument what-so-ever.

Youre mockery is.... well... its a mockery of mockery.

What SHOULD be mocked is spending 5 trillion dollars in the middle east playing a game of wack-a-moles that simply results in more moles. The fake GWOT is the most expensive project in human history, and it has accomplished nothing. And the fact that any of you support this nonsense based on nothing but the fact that Islam is your pet boogeyman and scape-goat for all thats wrong in the world is quite frankly astounding.

[dre]

They aren't 'two groups of people' unless you count the fact some are Jews and some are Muslims

<facepalm/>

[eyeball]

Cite?

Face palm.

[Big Guy]

What is a "face palm"?

[eyeball]

http://lmgtfy.com/

[Moonbox]

Your responses demonstrate your disregard and insulting comments to other posters here. Why do you need to insult?

There's a very real difference between insulting a poster personally and breaking down a person's line of reasoning and showing how stupid it is.

This is usually preceded by showing what the person is saying is categorically false, completely impossible or so outlandishly unlikely/irrational that there's no room for further debate on the point.

When someone is arguing that 9-11 was caused by rogue-US intelligence, that the USA is friends with Al-Qaeda and ISIS, that Palestine/Israeli conflicts had nothing to do with Israelis being Jewish, or that western "imperialism/interference" is the sole cause of Islamic extremism, it becomes obvious that they're not interested in a reasonable, fact-based discussion.

[Moonbox]

Of course there are favourites. I have no doubt of that and it has been demonstrated over and over again.

You feeling that way likely has a lot to do with how your own favorite posters (and the ridiculous positions you collectively support) get regularly discredited and mocked out of threads.

[Moonbox]

And the fact that any of you support this nonsense based on nothing but the fact that Islam is your pet boogeyman and scape-goat for all thats wrong in the world is quite frankly astounding.

I have no problem with Islam. I have problems with vicious idiots using it as a basis for religious politics and violence.

Saying that I'm blaming it for everything that's wrong in the world is also a ridiculous hyperbole but very typical of your brand of reasoning.

Muslim extremists aren't bogeyman. The Yazidi, Kurds, Assyrians, South-Sudanese, Mali and others have all been victim to the sort of barbarism we haven't seen since the Middle Ages. 9-11 wasn't caused by the bogeyman either. It's a real danger, whether or not you choose to believe it. The fact that you'd even suggest that it isn't is ludicrous, having more to do with your own anger towards your own bogeymen (the West/capitalism etc) than anything else.

Edited December 21, 2014 by Moonbox

[Argus]

What is a "face palm"?

It's when you want to convey something insulting towards the other person but aren't intelligent enough to come up with anything in words.

[WestCoastRunner]

You feeling that way likely has a lot to do with how your own favorite posters (and the ridiculous positions you collectively support) get regularly discredited and mocked out of threads.

Again the insults. Do you really think I'm bothered by the posters that mock me?

[Moonbox]

Again the insults. Do you really think I'm bothered by the posters that mock me?

Was that a rhetorical question? It obviously does bother you, because you're very clearly taking exception about what's being said. I didn't insult you either, but you helped prove my point. What you call an insult is actually just you not liking what the other person has to say.

[Michael Hardner]

Please stop making this personal... move on.

[GostHacked]

Why do you suppose they hate Kurds? Why do you suppose they hate Shiites? Why do you suppose they hate the Christians there? Why do you suppose they hate the Yazidis? Why do you suppose they hate Jews?

Why is it beyond your ability to imagine people who are religious fanatics of the old school would hate and despise anyone who does not share their view of God?

I am just going with what the talking heads in media and government were saying right after the 9/11 attacks. Bush said they hated us for our freedoms. Was Bush wrong in saying that? We know damn well they don't hate us for our freedoms. The hate comes from constant meddling in the Middle East for decades.

But yes I agree, they are religious nutbars who are really causing issues. The two sided approach the US has taken towards this (while dragging Canada and others along with it) war on terror is also causing us in the west issues. Remember ISIS was not a problem before they attacked US military facilities in Iraq. Up until that point, the US simply did not care that ISIS was wrecking havoc across Iraq. If they had done something right away (like the invasion was to make Iraq and Afghanistan both safe so terrorism could not flourish, what a failure) then we may not see this issue. We may not have seen it spread to Syria and other countries.

Al-Queda still exists.

The Taliban still exists.

ISIS ISIL is a new problem that did not exist before. There are now multiple terror groups banding together.

Look at it like job security for the West. A problem that constantly needs to be addressed without a real end strategy. They really do not have a goal, because they do not know how to fix the problem. Bombs and guns are no longer effective in combating terrorism.

[GostHacked]

When someone is arguing that 9-11 was caused by rogue-US intelligence, that the USA is friends with Al-Qaeda and ISIS, that Palestine/Israeli conflicts had nothing to do with Israelis being Jewish, or that western "imperialism/interference" is the sole cause of Islamic extremism, it becomes obvious that they're not interested in a reasonable, fact-based discussion.

Let's look at my post again.

It could be that Saudi Arabia and Jordan are already friendly to these ISIS/Al Queda types.

I said it COULD be. I did not say it IS. Reading comprehension is key for proper debate as well.

[Moonbox]

I said it COULD be. I did not say it IS. Reading comprehension is key for proper debate as well.

No, sorry. Semantics don't save you from your own ridiculousness. If I said, "Stephen Harper may be preparing an invasion of the USA," the use of the word may does not make the statement any less stupid. Regardless, at another point you said:

The US IS friendly towards ISIS/Al-Queda.

so your embarrass yourself not just with your poor reasoning, but also with your poor memory and lack of conviction/honesty about what you already said. We don't need much more evidence that you're just blathering nonsense.

We know damn well they don't hate us for our freedoms. The hate comes from constant meddling in the Middle East for decades.

So when girls in Afghanistan/Pakistan etc get acid poured on their faces for attempting to get an education, you're saying that this is because of western meddling? That's beyond absurd. That shows a remarkable level of ignorance.

Edited December 22, 2014 by Moonbox

[guyser]

If I said, "Stephen Harper may be preparing an invasion of the USA," the use of the word may does not make the statement any less stupid.

No that statement would be completely stupid.

This statement does/could have some validity....It could be that Saudi Arabia and Jordan are already friendly to these ISIS/Al Queda types

The first one is just idiotic.