Jian Ghomeshi Fired from Q

[Argus]

Sure it's a problem. But as we've discussed, there's no solution without going in the other direction and completely undermining the justice system.

As has sort of happened in the UK. Have a look at this silly case, where a man was prosecuted for sexual assault even though there was clear video surveillance footage showing nothing had happened. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/12146274/Prosecutors-slowed-down-CCTV-in-case-of-commuter-cleared-of-bizarre-sex-assault-on-actress.html

In the UK, the determination to believe every complaintant and prosecute every case led to 5000 extra prosecutions last year - and 77 extra convictions.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3427408/The-rape-cases-doomed-poor-evidence-5-000-extra-prosecutions-brought-2014-secured-77-extra-convictions.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490

[On Guard for Thee]

Maybe if you read the cites I posted you'd wonder less.

The fact that in all likelihood Ghomeshi will be acquitted sort of blows yet another of your theories. Stay tuned to March 24th though, in case I miss my guess.

[Boges]

Verdict coming tomorrow.

[cybercoma]

Jesse Brown mentioned on Twitter that there's another criminal trial in June with an additional 20 accusers. No matter what happens today Ghomeshi isn't in the clear yet.

[jacee]

He's toast professionally anyway.

Even if he's never convicted, everyone knows he's a predator.

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[Boges]

Wow the Judge is pretty much accusing the complainants of perjury.

[Boges]

Annnnnnnnd Not Guilty on all charges. Least shocking thing ever.

[Big Guy]

Not Guilty does not read "Innocent". It reads that there was not enough evidence to convict him on these charges.

There may be more cases coming up.

No matter what the final decision, this guy has some rather unhealthy sexual practices. I wonder how his love life is going?

[Boges]

All these new complainants better not have told outright lies like these women did, or he walks again.

[overthere]

Jesse Brown mentioned on Twitter that there's another criminal trial in June with an additional 20 accusers. No matter what happens today Ghomeshi isn't in the clear yet.

Perhaps.

People like Brown, the CBC, The Toronto Star, the Crown and the cops and many others need to be a bit more circumspect in their allegations now. They are certainly not 'in the clear ' yet either, there may be a lot more money changing hands over this business.He just 'mentioned ' there is another major trial in 8 weeks from now? Does the Crown or Ghomeshi know that too? Any charges laid? Or just the usual Internet wankery? Hmmmm?

[Big Guy]

So the strange becomes weird:

Actor Lucy DeCoutere has resigned from the television show “Trailer Park Boys” amid news that fellow actor, Mike Smith, has been charged in the U.S. DeCoutere announced the news on Twitter Saturday afternoon, and confirmed that her resignation was related to the arrest of Smith, who plays the character Bubbles. Smith is also an executive producer on the show.

Lucy was also one of the prosecution witnesses in the Jian Ghomeshi case.

Mike Smith was accused of battering a woman and was arrested for that allegation.

What is going on?

[msj]

People like Brown, the CBC, The Toronto Star, the Crown and the cops and many others need to be a bit more circumspect in their allegations now. They are certainly not 'in the clear ' yet either, there may be a lot more money changing hands over this business.He just 'mentioned ' there is another major trial in 8 weeks from now? Does the Crown or Ghomeshi know that too? Any charges laid? Or just the usual Internet wankery? Hmmmm?

What are you trying to imply?

That it's a crime to state that there is another trial on June 6?

Is that some kind of crime or something?

I mean, try using google for crying out loud.

[SpankyMcFarland]

I always assumed he was gay. Shows how much I know.

[Big Guy]

The Star has located another potential accuser but she does not seem interested in making a criminal complaint:

http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2016/04/24/jian-ghomeshi-case-shines-spotlight-on-post-incident-contact.html

I thought that this was a dead issue and the judgement has been made. I guess it is not.

[jacee]

The Star has located another potential accuser but she does not seem interested in making a criminal complaint:

http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2016/04/24/jian-ghomeshi-case-shines-spotlight-on-post-incident-contact.html

I thought that this was a dead issue and the judgement has been made. I guess it is not.

There's another victim, another trial coming:

http://www.nationalpost.com/m/wp/blog.html?b=news.nationalpost.com/news/canada/second-ghomeshi-trial-expected-to-be-very-different-from-first-everybody-is-going-to-be-way-more-prepared

Edited April 24, 2016 by jacee

[Big Guy]

Have seen nothing new on the next trial. This one is not going to be appealed.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/jian-ghomeshi-no-appeal-1.3551762

All I can find ion the next one is "The trial might not happen at all - Could the complainant be scared off by the treatment of three women who preceded her? Could the collapse of the first case cause the Crown to reconsider?

“One option is that the Crown takes a hard look at their case and having done that, decides there isn’t a reasonable prospect of conviction and decides to withdraw the charge,” said Stewart.

Edited April 26, 2016 by Big Guy

[jacee]

Have seen nothing new on the next trial. This one is not going to be appealed.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/jian-ghomeshi-no-appeal-1.3551762

second-ghomeshi-trial-expected-to-be-very-different-from-first-everybody-is-going-to-be-way-more-prepared

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[Hal 9000]

Have seen nothing new on the next trial. This one is not going to be appealed.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/jian-ghomeshi-no-appeal-1.3551762

All I can find ion the next one is "The trial might not happen at all - Could the complainant be scared off by the treatment of three women who preceded her? Could the collapse of the first case cause the Crown to reconsider?

“One option is that the Crown takes a hard look at their case and having done that, decides there isn’t a reasonable prospect of conviction and decides to withdraw the charge,” said Stewart.

Knowing that Ghomeshi has actually kept all his emails has surely made some complainants reconsider just how abused they really were.

[msj]

Knowing that Ghomeshi has actually kept all his emails has surely made some complainants reconsider just how abused they really were.

More likely gets them thinking in what ways the abuse will continue and whether it is just easier to shut up and move on.

[Smallc]

More likely gets them thinking in what ways the abuse will continue and whether it is just easier to shut up and move on.

A lot of them obviously craved it. I'm having trouble convicting him in my brain for any of this.

[msj]

Yes the first trial was a joke. We'll see what comes out of the second trial.

I would not feel comfortable if Ghomeshi was dating my sister: he's a creep through and through.

[Smallc]

Yes the first trial was a joke. We'll see what comes out of the second trial.

I would not feel comfortable if Ghomeshi was dating my sister: he's a creep through and through.

Sure, but if she wanted to date him, that's kind of her choice.

[jacee]

Knowing that Ghomeshi has actually kept all his emails has surely made some complainants reconsider just how abused they really were.

No.

But it's made them realize that the justice system is useless for criminals like Ghomeshi.

Twitter is much more effective.

Creeps take note: You can be outed in the blink of an eye, your life destroyed ... without a cop ever coming to your door. :-)

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Edited May 4, 2016 by jacee

[msj]

Sure, but if she wanted to date him, that's kind of her choice.

Of course. But I would warn her and then she would find out on her own, I'm sure.

[Smallc]

Of course. But I would warn her and then she would find out on her own, I'm sure.

Sure, and I'm not really defending him. I'm just having a hard time calling him a criminal. Men are in to weird stuff.