On Guard for Thee Posted November 3, 2014 Report Posted November 3, 2014 Apparently you haven't been paying attention. His strikes reportedly caused bruising, none of it was consensual, there is now video to support that, and his union has backed away from him. I suspect he will be asked to come in for a police interview soon, although I hear he has left the country. I wonder why? Quote
TimG Posted November 3, 2014 Report Posted November 3, 2014 (edited) His link dealt with common assault, not sexual assault.The allegations made by people who have identified themselves are that they were punched or slapped and then they left unharmed. That fits the definition of common assault. In any case, Canadian courts are notoriously lenient and judges and the NDP/Libs have been fighting the attempts by the conservatives to introduce minimum standards so I don't think it is unreasonable to say that Gomeshi would get a few months, at most, if convicted. Edited November 3, 2014 by TimG Quote
Hal 9000 Posted November 3, 2014 Report Posted November 3, 2014 Apparently you haven't been paying attention. His strikes reportedly caused bruising, none of it was consensual, there is now video to support that, and his union has backed away from him. I suspect he will be asked to come in for a police interview soon, although I hear he has left the country. I wonder why? If there is video, that shows non-consensual sex, then he is in some trouble, where did you hear this? P.S - You think he's flee'd the country? Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
On Guard for Thee Posted November 3, 2014 Report Posted November 3, 2014 If there is video, that shows non-consensual sex, then he is in some trouble, where did you hear this? P.S - You think he's flee'd the country? One of the things that got him fired was a video he himself showed CBC. You just have to read the news. It has been reported he headed to the US Quote
Hal 9000 Posted November 3, 2014 Report Posted November 3, 2014 One of the things that got him fired was a video he himself showed CBC. You just have to read the news. It has been reported he headed to the US "none of it was consensual, there is now video to support that" In other words, you have no idea what if anything is on the video! Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
On Guard for Thee Posted November 3, 2014 Report Posted November 3, 2014 "none of it was consensual, there is now video to support that" In other words, you have no idea what if anything is on the video! I know that after CBC viewed it they decided to fire Gomeshi. Quote
Hal 9000 Posted November 3, 2014 Report Posted November 3, 2014 Obviously Ghomeshi thought the video would exonerate him. So, who knows what's on it. Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
On Guard for Thee Posted November 3, 2014 Report Posted November 3, 2014 Sounds like it was a desperation act on his part. According to CBC exec. it shows blows being delivered that actually caused bruising. In any case it is what led to his dismissal. Do you think it shows them having cookies and milk? Quote
Hal 9000 Posted November 3, 2014 Report Posted November 3, 2014 Sounds like it was a desperation act on his part. According to CBC exec. it shows blows being delivered that actually caused bruising. In any case it is what led to his dismissal. Do you think it shows them having cookies and milk? I've fallen for your bait and switch comments before...so, do you know for a fact that it shows actual bruising? Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
On Guard for Thee Posted November 3, 2014 Report Posted November 3, 2014 I've fallen for your bait and switch comments before...so, do you know for a fact that it shows actual bruising? Well I haven't actually seen the video so I guess I can't swear to it. Perhaps the CBC executive is lying for some reason. Maybe read the news a bit and get informed before you post. Quote
WestCoastRunner Posted November 3, 2014 Report Posted November 3, 2014 I've fallen for your bait and switch comments before...so, do you know for a fact that it shows actual bruising? Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
WestCoastRunner Posted November 3, 2014 Report Posted November 3, 2014 You are so full of shit. I can't even respond to it. Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
WestCoastRunner Posted November 3, 2014 Report Posted November 3, 2014 That is directed to Hal btw. Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
Hal 9000 Posted November 3, 2014 Report Posted November 3, 2014 Well I haven't actually seen the video so I guess I can't swear to it. Perhaps the CBC executive is lying for some reason. Maybe read the news a bit and get informed before you post. I do read the news, but then you make some grandiose statement and without knowing how much you're embellishing I start to second guess myself and I look for the info that your talking about, only to discover a bunch of half truths. The CBC statement deals with conduct leading to why he was fired, there is nothing (so far) about bruising. OGFT: According to CBC exec. it shows blows being delivered that actually caused bruising. You really have to stop the exaggerations. Also on Friday, the CBC told employees it had fired Mr. Ghomeshi as a result of seeing graphic evidence last week that he had caused "physical injury to a woman."......"After viewing this graphic evidence, we determined that Jian's conduct was a fundamental breach of CBC's standard of acceptable conduct for any employee. Treating all people with respect, dignity and fairness is fundamental to our relationship with the Canadian public and contributes to a safe and healthy work environment that promotes engagement, openness and transparency," Ms. Conway explained. "Jian's conduct in causing physical injury to a woman was inconsistent with the character of the public broadcaster." Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
Hal 9000 Posted November 3, 2014 Report Posted November 3, 2014 You are so full of shit. I can't even respond to it. What would you even respond to? Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
Hal 9000 Posted November 3, 2014 Report Posted November 3, 2014 (edited) You are so full of shit. I can't even respond to it. Let me ask you this; what would make you happier? 1) He sexually assaulted all these women and gets be arrested... or 2) This whole situation is blown out of proportion and he gets left alone. Edited November 3, 2014 by Hal 9000 Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
On Guard for Thee Posted November 3, 2014 Report Posted November 3, 2014 I do read the news, but then you make some grandiose statement and without knowing how much you're embellishing I start to second guess myself and I look for the info that your talking about, only to discover a bunch of half truths. The CBC statement deals with conduct leading to why he was fired, there is nothing (so far) about bruising. OGFT: According to CBC exec. it shows blows being delivered that actually caused bruising. You really have to stop the exaggerations. Also on Friday, the CBC told employees it had fired Mr. Ghomeshi as a result of seeing graphic evidence last week that he had caused "physical injury to a woman."......"After viewing this graphic evidence, we determined that Jian's conduct was a fundamental breach of CBC's standard of acceptable conduct for any employee. Treating all people with respect, dignity and fairness is fundamental to our relationship with the Canadian public and contributes to a safe and healthy work environment that promotes engagement, openness and transparency," Ms. Conway explained. "Jian's conduct in causing physical injury to a woman was inconsistent with the character of the public broadcaster." As I say, you need to do some reading and get caught up. You keep trying to say the sex was consensual when it happened, the people involved say otherwise. Quote
jacee Posted November 3, 2014 Report Posted November 3, 2014 Let me ask you this; what would make you happier? 1) He sexually assaulted all these women and gets be arrested... or 2) This whole situation is blown out of proportion and he gets left alone. I'd rather know why you so ardently defend an abuser. Nobody else is defending him anymore as it's so obvious that he's a creep. Quote
ReeferMadness Posted November 3, 2014 Report Posted November 3, 2014 The allegations made by people who have identified themselves are that they were punched or slapped and then they left unharmed. That fits the definition of common assault. Really. Maybe you might want to read a bit more. Huffington Post quotes Reva Seth as claiming this: Jian had his hands around my throat, had pulled down my pants and was aggressively and violently penetrating me with his fingers. Seems to me like that would fit a definition of sexual assault but I'm not a lawyer. Which is why I asked you a question you have yet to answer. Are you a lawyer? In any case, Canadian courts are notoriously lenient and judges and the NDP/Libs have been fighting the attempts by the conservatives to introduce minimum standards so I don't think it is unreasonable to say that Gomeshi would get a few months, at most, if convicted. That's your opinion. And your opinion on this topic might be worth something if you have some relevant experience - say, as a lawyer. Are you a lawyer? If not, than your estimate of what Ghomeshi will get isn't worth much. Quote Unlimited economic growth has the marvelous quality of stilling discontent while preserving privilege, a fact that has not gone unnoticed among liberal economists. - Noam Chomsky It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it. - Upton Sinclair
Hal 9000 Posted November 3, 2014 Report Posted November 3, 2014 I'd rather know why you so ardently defend an abuser. Nobody else is defending him anymore as it's so obvious that he's a creep. No one is defending him and nobody is denying that he's a creep. Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
On Guard for Thee Posted November 3, 2014 Report Posted November 3, 2014 Let me ask you this; what would make you happier? 1) He sexually assaulted all these women and gets be arrested... or 2) This whole situation is blown out of proportion and he gets left alone. Reflect and re read your post. Isn't that about one of the dumbest questions you have ever heard? Quote
Hal 9000 Posted November 3, 2014 Report Posted November 3, 2014 Reflect and re read your post. Isn't that about one of the dumbest questions you have ever heard? Quite relevant, WCR won't answer though. Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
cybercoma Posted November 3, 2014 Report Posted November 3, 2014 1. Ghomeshi has admitted to "rough sex" and claimed that it was consensual.He said it was rough sex and consensual, yet a number of the women say he unexpectedly slapped and/or choked them whereupon they left before sex. Quote
cybercoma Posted November 3, 2014 Report Posted November 3, 2014 No one is defending him and nobody is denying that he's a creep.You're defending him by attacking his accusers. Quote
cybercoma Posted November 3, 2014 Report Posted November 3, 2014 Journalism students were steered away from internships at Q."Students were not given specifics but were told that there was concern about “overly flirty” behaviour by Ghomeshi when he dealt with female university students. . ."If anyone is seriously wondering what takes women so long to come forward, if ever at all, then this article is worth reading. I was the victim of a recent assault. Although hesitant, I immediately went to the hospital and contacted police. . . My hesitancy was for the same reasons that have been outlined by Reva Seth, Lucy DeCoutere, and many of the other women; I was afraid of retaliation by my perpetrator, that no one would believe me, and that my reputation would be destroyed. I was terrified that it would negatively influence my professional career that I was just beginning, and which my perpetrator was a part of. I thought it would just be easier to forget about it and try to move on. . .[However,] I believed in our justice system. So I made the mistake of coming forward. Quote
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