Future of Canadian TV

[Michael Hardner]

Perhaps you meant combined TV and Radio for news, in which case I cannot help you but believe you may be right.

I was going to say - I think that is the reasoning behind this claim.

[On Guard for Thee]

Chretien's Liberals cut the CBC's state broadcasting budget a lot more than Harper. Still, a high profile sex offender (alleged) and God-awful CanCon programming managed to hang on. Now the "news" is feeling the burn. Melting....melting......

Better check your numbers. CBC funding was relatively the same under Chretien and Martin. In fairness to Harper it still remains just over a billion. Aint it funny though, all that money and they still dont control it.

Edited March 27, 2015 by On Guard for Thee

[guyser]

Not a single CBC broadcast of any kind, including news, was even in the top 30 in the most recent ratings (including PVR numbers).

The Leafs suck.Otherwise they would.

CTV News, on the other hand, held several spots in that top 30. The people who ever watch anything on CBC television are a very small minority. They are in the thousands, not millions.

I fixed that for you to reflect accuracy.

Please dont be a graduate of the bc2000 school of bullshit.

People who do get their news from CBC are mostly getting it from the website and the radio.

LOL....yea sure Bryan.

[bush_cheney2004]

I think it is pretty safe to say that the Future of Canadian TV means less crappy CBC programming, less ham fisted CRTC discrimination and preferences, more consumer choice (of their favorite American content), and more whining by supporters of the old regulatory regime.

[On Guard for Thee]

American content may contain better soap operas, but why do they have to make news reporting into one...

[eyeball]

I was going to say - I think that is the reasoning behind this claim.

Yes it is. My only complaint is how often CBC interviewers and reporters let disingenuous, deflective or outright evasive answers from politicians pass without challenge as easily as they do.

As I said above I think the CBC should be regarded as a public watchdog and mandated by law to have greater more deeply penetrating in-depth access to politicians and the political process so as to better keep the public informed. I don't believe private broadcasters can do this to a high enough standard due to the profit motive of their owners.

[bush_cheney2004]

....I don't believe private broadcasters can do this to a high enough standard due to the profit motive of their owners.

Ya think ? Bell Media just got caught whipping out their profit motive with the CRTC. Cue Fox News Channel laugh track and higher ratings.

[On Guard for Thee]

Ya think ? Bell Media just got caught whipping out their profit motive with the CRTC. Cue Fox News Channel laugh track and higher ratings.

Ah the simple minded Fox people. After the news its off to Maury Povich. Keeps WWF going as well. Pick your laugh track.

[On Guard for Thee]

Yes it is. My only complaint is how often CBC interviewers and reporters let disingenuous, deflective or outright evasive answers from politicians pass without challenge as easily as they do.

As I said above I think the CBC should be regarded as a public watchdog and mandated by law to have greater more deeply penetrating in-depth access to politicians and the political process so as to better keep the public informed. I don't believe private broadcasters can do this to a high enough standard due to the profit motive of their owners.

I think Evan Solomon does a pretty good job. He lines up the major party reps and pokes em pretty hard without letting it deteriorate into American style stuff were all you can hear is everybody talking at the same time, hoping the clock will run out before they actually have to try to answer a question

[Topaz]

This reminds me of when PM Trudeau messing around with the radio industry and said they had to have more Canadian music. That was the end to CKLW Windsor On., which was the radio station that played all the hits of the 60-70's and ALL musicians in North America wanted their music played on this station. Now, its a call-in talk show, but boomers do have their remembers of a great radio station. As far as TV, we're on dish, Shaw, can't complain what they offer, except the I'd like to see the Ontario government in action but Star Choice took it off because......lack of interest???

[bush_cheney2004]

Now it's official...the CRTC will require mandatory carriage of foreign (U.S.) television networks as part of $25 "skinny basic" service packages by March 1, 2016. This applies to cable and satellite providers.

...The basic package must include channels on the CRTC's mandatory distribution list, including CBC, CTV and Global, a group of U.S. channels and aboriginal and minority English or French language channels. The U.S. channels usually would be CBS, NBC, ABC, FOX and non-commercial channel PBS.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/cable-changes-timing-1.3326645#commentwrapper

Nothing says "Canadian Culture" like American television programming.

[bush_cheney2004]

Numeris ratings for Week 10 in English Canada reveals that about 28 of the top shows are from U.S. networks on CTV and Global.

http://assets.numeris.ca/Downloads/November%202%20-%20November%208,%202015%20%28National%29.pdf

This means that CRTC mandatory carriage of CTV, Global, and American "4+1" networks for "skinny basic" service means even more U.S. programming.

Edited November 22, 2015 by bush_cheney2004

[overthere]

CbC has powered their way into having shows at #25 and #27 on that chart.

We need to toss them another billion or two, see if we can crack the top 20.

[bush_cheney2004]

"Skinny cable TV" is almost here....Canada's big cable providers will roll out CRTC mandated basic plans that cost only $25 CAD per month....that's cheap !

Bell is still mad as hell about American broadcast stations being repeated at no cost because that will compete with expensive, licensed American content that Bell's stations/channels offer.

Sorry Bell, but Canadians want their MTV...errr...American content.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/television-crtc-skinny-basic-cable-1.3469483

[overthere]

CbC has powered their way into having shows at #25 and #27 on that chart.

We need to toss them another billion or two, see if we can crack the top 20.

Well that is looking like a completely wrong prediction. No wait, partly wrong. The CBC will surely get more money, but they don't need to crack anything. Just keep promoting The Right Honourable Justin Trudeau, every day in every way. Now that is job security.

[Ash74]

You gotta be nuts to pay for cable right now.

There is nothing I cannot stream including all sports events.

No commercials and no monthly fee's.

I doubt this will last forever but right now it saves me some cash and keeps the Canadian Gestapo from my money

[Guest]

Somebody has to pay or high quality content doesn't get produced. The cable TV model is broken and "Skinny Basic" is not going to save it. Some claim the cheap packages will retain a portion of would be cord cutters. Unfortunately, their real problem is the cord nevers, A handful of crappy channels for $25, plus digital box rental fees of $12+ will not entice millennials to buy old timey cable packages. The future is selling bandwidth and streamed, reasonably priced content.

[cybercoma]

Funny thing. We just got cable and home phone again because the cost of our fibre Internet was only $10 less than a package they offered us with high def pvr and unlimited long distance in Canada and he US.

[TimG]

Somebody has to pay or high quality content doesn't get produced.

The future will be people paying for bundles from whatever party offers them for streaming (Netflix, Shomi, HBO or whatever). The subscriptions to these bundles + advertising included in the stream will have to fund the content.

The cable company will become an ISP.

Incidentally, a la carte channel selection is a red herring since most people prefer to buy bundles. The trouble with cable companies is people did not like the fact that they were forced to deal with a monopoly provider. Fortunately, that monopoly is now gone.

[bush_cheney2004]

Canadians may be able to streamline on distribution costs to consumers, but Canada still has the very large issue of quality content production, which is largely licensed from abroad for programming most popular with English Canadian audiences, save for sports (hockey) and French language programs.

In 1952, when Canada's first commercial broadcast television station went on the air, there were already an estimated 800,000 television receivers (sets) in Canada. Just as today, Canadians had been watching a lot of American television for years.

[On Guard for Thee]

Canadians may be able to streamline on distribution costs to consumers, but Canada still has the very large issue of quality content production, which is largely licensed from abroad for programming most popular with English Canadian audiences, save for sports (hockey) and French language programs.

In 1952, when Canada's first commercial broadcast television station went on the air, there were already an estimated 800,000 television receivers (sets) in Canada. Just as today, Canadians had been watching a lot of American television for years.

Why are you so worried about Canadian TV? Very strange.

[bush_cheney2004]

The backlash against the CRTC's "skinny cable" has already started. Canada's big cable providers are gaming the mandated $25 "skinny" package prices for little or even less value than before. Telling Canadian grandmas to just get an Android box and Netflix for her American content fix is not always the best alternative. What a fiasco.....

http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/crtc-skinny-basic-pick-and-pay-1.3472647

[cybercoma]

How are they gaming anything? They provided exactly the mandated content.

[bush_cheney2004]

They have decoupled skinny cable from bundling and other discounts and removed the much desired U.S. broadcast networks to higher tiers in at least one case. I never understood why the CRTC would mandate American 4+1 networks at no extra cost anyway, but I guess it is something that many Canadians insist on having access to given the history of television in Canada.

[cybercoma]

The American networks weren't mandated. That's why they're not included. Why would American television be mandatory in Canada?