On Guard for Thee Posted August 24, 2014 Report Posted August 24, 2014 Officer Wilson was treated at a local hospital for facial wounds. The details of the wounds are what's unknown to this point. But not the fact that he was wounded in the face, and treated for it. Those are facts. You'll need to start dealing with them soon. I'll be happy to, when they become facts and not anecdotes from friends. Quote
Shady Posted August 24, 2014 Report Posted August 24, 2014 I'll be happy to, when they become facts and not anecdotes from friends.The fact that the officer was treated at a hostpial for facial wounds isn't an anecdote from a friend. It's a fact. The extent to the injuries is from a friend, which isn't a fact yet. Deal with it. Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted August 24, 2014 Report Posted August 24, 2014 The fact that the officer was treated at a hostpial for facial wounds isn't an anecdote from a friend. It's a fact. The extent to the injuries is from a friend, which isn't a fact yet. Deal with it. So far there is not much to deal with on this part of the issue. The friends story seemed to be widely accepted by people who wanted it to be true. The fractured orbital bone turns out to be phony though. Quote
cybercoma Posted August 24, 2014 Report Posted August 24, 2014 You expect me to get all weepy and emotional and gnash my teeth and pull at my hair because some violent guy got killed? I leave that sort of thing to you. No, I expect you not to act like an asshole with complete disregard for others. I know, it's too much. Quote
GostHacked Posted August 24, 2014 Report Posted August 24, 2014 Exactly. It's a good lesson for everyone. If you attack a cop, and then try to reach for his gun. You may get shot. I know, unbelievable! To bad the general public is not offered the same. If someone attacked me , do I have a good reason to take the person out? Quote
cybercoma Posted August 24, 2014 Report Posted August 24, 2014 (edited) To bad the general public is not offered the same. If someone attacked me , do I have a good reason to take the person out? Attack you? They just have to walk aggressively towards you and you can pop a cap in their ass. Self defence, baby. Kill anyone you perceive as aggressive. Especially if they're black. Don't shoot a white kid though. People don't treat that the same. Edited August 24, 2014 by cybercoma Quote
GostHacked Posted August 24, 2014 Report Posted August 24, 2014 Attack you? They just have to walk aggressively towards you and you can pop a cap in their ass. Self defence, baby. Kill anyone you perceive as aggressive. Especially if they're black. Don't shoot a white kid though. People don't treat that the same. I guess we can tie in 'Stand Your Ground' type of clause here possibly. Quote
WestCoastRunner Posted August 24, 2014 Report Posted August 24, 2014 Could be that when the cop knew the trouble he was in ... asked to get roughed up and claim Brown assaulted him. Remember the police ARE ALLOWED TO LIE. Which does not set a good precedent, or a good standard in how to deal with the public. And you know what, the horror of it all is that I believe this could very well happen. Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
WestCoastRunner Posted August 24, 2014 Report Posted August 24, 2014 Exactly. It's a good lesson for everyone. If you attack a cop, and then try to reach for his gun. You may get shot. I know, unbelievable! Again, bs. Who says he reached for the gun. Let's wait for the facts. Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
WestCoastRunner Posted August 25, 2014 Report Posted August 25, 2014 You expect me to get all weepy and emotional and gnash my teeth and pull at my hair because some violent guy got killed? I leave that sort of thing to you. I am very grateful that you are not on the canadian beat! Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
jbg Posted August 25, 2014 Report Posted August 25, 2014 (edited) That strikes me as odd, that with the technology/science we have and the base of knowledge, they can't take a look at the bullet angle/paths through his arms, and then get an idea of the bullet trajectory if his arms had been up and another if his arms had been down. Then see which trajectory is closer to the stance of Wilson. Is this impossible?When the results would make Brown at fault, sure. It doesn't matter either way. Police shouldn't be using lethal force against an unarmed aggressor. They're supposed to be professionals and should be acting like it. What kind of sick world do people think we should be living in when they justify murdering someone who's resisting arrest? I expect cops to be better than that. I expect more rights than that as a citizen too.Are you saying that the police should be consigned to a wrestling match with someone of Brown's height, strength and possible drug enhancement of the strength and pain threshold? Edited August 25, 2014 by jbg Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
WestCoastRunner Posted August 25, 2014 Report Posted August 25, 2014 When the results would make Brown at fault, sure. Are you saying that the police should be consigned to a wrestling match with someone of Brown's height, strength and possible drug enhancement of the strength and pain threshold? Drug enhancement? Please???? Let's wait for the facts. Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
WestCoastRunner Posted August 25, 2014 Report Posted August 25, 2014 When the results would make Brown at fault, sure. Are you saying that the police should be consigned to a wrestling match with someone of Brown's height, strength and possible drug enhancement of the strength and pain threshold? Can we get anymore ridiculous awaiting the results of 'drug enhancement'? Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
On Guard for Thee Posted August 25, 2014 Report Posted August 25, 2014 It truly amazes me how many conclusions have bee jumped to without any proof/evidence whatsoever. I suspect "post racial America" is still a myth Quote
jbg Posted August 25, 2014 Report Posted August 25, 2014 It truly amazes me how many conclusions have bee jumped to without any proof/evidence whatsoever. I suspect "post racial America" is still a mythCertain rabble-rousers were hapy for America to be "post-racial" when an unqualified candidate ran and won. Now, not so much. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
On Guard for Thee Posted August 25, 2014 Report Posted August 25, 2014 Certain rabble-rousers were hapy for America to be "post-racial" when an unqualified candidate ran and won. Now, not so much. Oh god, surely you're not a member of the donny trump club? Quote
WestCoastRunner Posted August 25, 2014 Report Posted August 25, 2014 Are you saying that the police should be consigned to a wrestling match with someone of Brown's height, strength and possible drug enhancement of the strength and pain threshold? This is so ridiculous!!! wresting match, drug enhancement, Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
jbg Posted August 25, 2014 Report Posted August 25, 2014 (edited) Oh god, surely you're not a member of the donny trump club?Never heard of that club. Do they have tennis? Are you saying that the police should be consigned to a wrestling match with someone of Brown's height, strength and possible drug enhancement of the strength and pain threshold? This is so ridiculous!!! wresting match, drug enhancement, How else do you respond other than with deadly force to a crazed 292 lb. (not sure how to convert that to Canadian units) 6'4" (again not sure how to convert that to Canadian units) and very strong individual? Edited August 25, 2014 by jbg Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
On Guard for Thee Posted August 25, 2014 Report Posted August 25, 2014 Never heard of that club. Do they have tennis? How else do you respond other than with deadly force to a crazed 292 lb. (not sure how to convert that to Canadian units) 6'4" (again not sure how to convert that to Canadian units) and very strong individual? Maybe you've heard of Donald Trump? He makes idiotic statements about Barak Obama Quote
jbg Posted August 25, 2014 Report Posted August 25, 2014 Maybe you've heard of Donald Trump? He makes idiotic statements about Barak ObamaWith the proper name "Donald Trump" yes. And I am no fan of his hypocrisy and bad behavior. Using corrupted versions of the names of public figures in not allowed. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
Black Dog Posted August 25, 2014 Author Report Posted August 25, 2014 (edited) The thing is, I saw several points early on where he could easily have killed a cop if he'd simply lunged at them. That cop who rolled the garbage can in on him, for example. If the guy had lunged over the top he could have put that machete in the cops throat. I don't know why they didn't have tazers, at least. I'm all in favor of non lethal means to subdue crazy people, but standing around with a short club and a little shield is NOT the way I would approve of. Rubber bullets, immobilizing foam, pepper spray, sure. But this was just... they had no idea what to do and no weapons to do it with. They're lucky none of them got stabbed. The point isn't whether or not that's effective or ideal, rather that there are alternatives to coming in with guns a-blazing. I'm going to be a little bit politically incorrect and say that the life of a crazy person is not worth the life of a cop. Well, it's abundantly clear by now from your posting history that you have little respect for the lives of people you consider Untermensch. Edited August 25, 2014 by Black Dog Quote
Black Dog Posted August 25, 2014 Author Report Posted August 25, 2014 I think that it is entirely plausible that there are situations in which Wilson may have been justified in shooting Brown. While people keep referring to him as "unarmed teenager Michael Brown", the fact is that he was a physically enormous individual who doesn't need to be armed to present a serious threat of physical harm. I don't yet have an opinion on whether Wilson was justified in shooting Brown. My objection isn't to Wilson's actions, it's to what the police have done since. And to the pro-police cheerleading as well. -k Quoting for truth. The "the n***er had it coming!" types seem to be missing the much bigger picture. Quote
Argus Posted August 25, 2014 Report Posted August 25, 2014 No, I expect you not to act like an asshole with complete disregard for others. I know, it's too much. I don't need to have 'regard' for thugs. I don't care what happens to thugs. That you care desperately is more an indication of your lack of judgement than any superior sense of empathy or morality. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Hal 9000 Posted August 25, 2014 Report Posted August 25, 2014 Quoting for truth. The "the n***er had it coming!" types seem to be missing the much bigger picture. Who are you quoting with that? Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
Big Guy Posted August 25, 2014 Report Posted August 25, 2014 Quoting for truth. The "the n***er had it coming!" types seem to be missing the much bigger picture. You can all rest easy. Reverend Alfred Charles "Al" Sharpton, Jr. Is now in town to straighten out this mess. This popular fox news commentator known for his exceptional abilities to be influential in American black/white confrontations has decided to get involved. That should certainly change the direction of any enquiry. Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
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