Charles Anthony Posted November 20, 2015 Report Posted November 20, 2015 Not only do people react to it but sometimes they ignore what-you-perceive-to-be-trolling and stick to the discussion topic. They keep the discussion going. Sometimes people get offended by what-they-perceive-to-be-trolling and respond in kind. It's laid out pretty clearly in the rules. You just have to be willing to enforce them. What?!? Who are you kidding? Do I have to remind you that MLW is a Canadian discussion forum?? We do not have time for a meeting of the flat earth society. << Où sont mes amis ? Ils sont ici, ils sont ici... >>
Michael Hardner Posted November 20, 2015 Report Posted November 20, 2015 Though the problem arises where one will ignore and report something, then someone else comes along and starts arguing with the troll. I'm not sure how often this unfolds in this way. My observation is that the real tit-for-tat sniping often happens when there are no mods around, but that's just a guess. Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
socialist Posted November 21, 2015 Report Posted November 21, 2015 What bothers me most about MLW is the obvious targetting on those who disagree with the moderator's politics. Case in point: When I was a socialist, I never received a warning point. Since I have renounced socialism, I have received 19 warning points. Coincidence? I think not. But I better watch what I say here or I will get banned. Silencing me would cause many happy faces here....because I challenge conventional bullshit. Thankful to have become a free thinker.
Peter F Posted November 22, 2015 Report Posted November 22, 2015 Another case in point: I am an avowed socialist and I am the shamefaced recipient of 6 warning points. I suspect that any warning points you have received have absolutely nothing to do with your betrayal of mankind. A bayonet is a tool with a worker at both ends
GostHacked Posted November 22, 2015 Report Posted November 22, 2015 I'm not sure how often this unfolds in this way. My observation is that the real tit-for-tat sniping often happens when there are no mods around, but that's just a guess. It does not matter if the mods are present or not. It happens quite often.
Michael Hardner Posted November 22, 2015 Report Posted November 22, 2015 It does not matter if the mods are present or not. It happens quite often. Well, if the mods are present and reports are made then we will address the trolling. Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
GostHacked Posted November 22, 2015 Report Posted November 22, 2015 Well, if the mods are present and reports are made then we will address the trolling. I must point out.. yet again ... that the application of the term trolling is subjective to the moderation of this board. What MOST would instantly perceive as trolling is NOT viewed that way by moderation. So the problem persists and continues. I don't respond to the trollers, but many here do. And we continue this cyclical bullshit forever. How old is this thread, and how far have we come since then? And why is it the same people doing it over and over again without much repercussions? We've been asking those questions for a couple years at least. Tell me , what progress has been made to deal with trolling?
Michael Hardner Posted November 22, 2015 Report Posted November 22, 2015 Tell me , what progress has been made to deal with trolling? There's no way to categorize such things objectively, unfortunately. I am happy with the board, though, and continue to learn a lot from my participation here. Thank you to all posters. Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
GostHacked Posted November 22, 2015 Report Posted November 22, 2015 There's no way to categorize such things objectively, unfortunately. That's a really weak excuse Mike.
bush_cheney2004 Posted November 22, 2015 Report Posted November 22, 2015 (edited) Speaking of trolls, this is what we have to deal with now...warning points for responding to personal attacks. This notification greeted me this morning....so there is trolling after all (maybe): Responding to Troll...Your post to HAL reflects a good understanding of the rules here, so much so that you even knew what would happen:" The mods will soon delete all of such nonsense."It's pretty clear, then, that you were 'responding to troll' in that HAL went over the line and went personal, and you appear to be celebrating having goaded him to step over the line. Both his troll and your response are failures to follow the forum protocol, though, and so I'm responding. Don't respond to trolling against you, just report it and move forward. It's possible to be suspended for responding to trolls, especially if you know the rules of moderation so well. Thank you for posting here. Nobody "goaded" anyone to step over the line....another member and I were disagreeing on what constituted extremism vs. freedom of expression in the "Islamophobia in Canada" thread. Personal attack victims are now troll "goaders"....amazing...but there are no trolls! Edited November 22, 2015 by bush_cheney2004 Economics trumps Virtue.
Charles Anthony Posted November 22, 2015 Report Posted November 22, 2015 Speaking of trolls, this is what we have to deal with now...warning points for responding to personal attacks. This notification greeted me this morning....so there is trolling after all (maybe):SHORT VERSION: If we have to delete posts, do not give us more work. How old is this thread, and how far have we come since then? And why is it the same people doing it over and over again without much repercussions? We've been asking those questions for a couple years at least. Tell me , what progress has been made to deal with trolling?People are starting to get it. Hey! Guess what? The other day, some guy bumped into me in the mall --- he was looking down at his trichorder. Like a punch-buggy moment, we BOTH stepped back and said "Sorry!" to each other like as if each of us were at fault. How odd! We were perfectly timed, like as if choreographed for a commercial. How does that work?? It gets better! We just turned away and moved on like as if nothing happened!! We do not have time for a meeting of the flat earth society. << Où sont mes amis ? Ils sont ici, ils sont ici... >>
bush_cheney2004 Posted November 22, 2015 Report Posted November 22, 2015 (edited) SHORT VERSION: If we have to delete posts, do not give us more work. No problem...but frivolous warning points are more work. Don't give us more work as well. Edited November 22, 2015 by bush_cheney2004 Economics trumps Virtue.
Charles Anthony Posted November 22, 2015 Report Posted November 22, 2015 No problem...but frivolous warning points are more work. Don't give us more work as well.Deal. We do not have time for a meeting of the flat earth society. << Où sont mes amis ? Ils sont ici, ils sont ici... >>
Argus Posted November 29, 2015 Author Report Posted November 29, 2015 Came across this completely by chance. I want to clarify the rules on insults. Lately a few forum members have resorted to calling other forum members "racists" and or "bigots" in response to certain opinions. Use of either of these terms in relation to another forum member will be considered an insult and a warning will be issued. If someone posts a comment that you feel is ignorant and or racist/bigoted, we ask that you simply ignore the post altogether or reply with a comment that refutes the original posters opinions/facts. If you feel a members comments do not encourage "intelligent, honest and responsible discussion" then please use the report the post button to report the offender. Thanks, "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Topaz Posted November 30, 2015 Report Posted November 30, 2015 Hey Charles maybe this forums needs "reward" system. Don't do anything to show bad judgement when posting and earn a "free get out of jail" pass, meaning if one is going to get a "vacation" from forum, if one has a free pass, they can stay. Passes are earn on a monthly agenda and u could also have 3 strikes u are gone on a two monthly vacation. Sad adults have to act this way.
cybercoma Posted December 1, 2015 Report Posted December 1, 2015 lmao Report posts that don't encourage intelligent, honest and reasonable discussion? You'd be reporting 85% of the content here.
G Huxley Posted December 2, 2015 Report Posted December 2, 2015 "Apparently Michael is allowed to use the word crackpot, but I'm not allowed to use the word troglodyte. Words are funny things aren't they?"
Michael Hardner Posted December 2, 2015 Report Posted December 2, 2015 I was talking about theories there, but I understand how you could be confused to think I was talking about people in general. That could be flame bait, or even worse if I was talking about an MLW poster, which I was not. Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
G Huxley Posted December 2, 2015 Report Posted December 2, 2015 (edited) "Of course, you could elevate yourself by providing non-crackpot cites for your claims" Someone in there or many people are being called crackpot(s). Edited December 2, 2015 by G Huxley
Michael Hardner Posted December 3, 2015 Report Posted December 3, 2015 Nope. The cite is what I was referring to. Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
Bob Macadoo Posted December 3, 2015 Report Posted December 3, 2015 Nope. The cite is what I was referring to. So high brow debaters use "crackpot" cites?
Guest Posted December 3, 2015 Report Posted December 3, 2015 So high brow debaters use "crackpot" cites? It was a typo from a cooking website. It was supposed to say "crockpot".
G Huxley Posted December 3, 2015 Report Posted December 3, 2015 (edited) "Nope. The cite is what I was referring to."Either the citer or the cited then are thus crackpots.Either way someone is being called a crackpot. Edited December 3, 2015 by G Huxley
Michael Hardner Posted December 3, 2015 Report Posted December 3, 2015 A "cite" is not a person. "Cite" means link, source, or reference - like a newspaper. Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
Argus Posted December 3, 2015 Author Report Posted December 3, 2015 "Of course, you could elevate yourself by providing non-crackpot cites for your claims" Someone in there or many people are being called crackpot(s). There is nothing wrong with referring to a crackpot site as a crackpot site. There are a lot of loony tune web sites out there pushing ridiculous conspiracy theories and absurdist claims which should not be used as a cite for anything. Insofar as you cite a crackpot site that can certainly reflect on you, but that's your own responsibility. "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
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