Black Dog Posted October 28, 2014 Author Report Posted October 28, 2014 Well look at Mississauga, one endorsement can go a long way in swaying voters, it seems. Tory pretty much got all the major ones. It's pretty harsh to call any voter that doesn't do a personal costing of all Tory's election promises completely ignorant. In fairness, it was pretty hard for anyone to do that since he never released a platform. Which kind of supports my point: how can anyone who is paying attention vote for a guy who doesn't even have a platform? Quote
Boges Posted October 28, 2014 Report Posted October 28, 2014 In fairness, it was pretty hard for anyone to do that since he never released a platform. Which kind of supports my point: how can anyone who is paying attention vote for a guy who doesn't even have a platform? I'm looking at my newspaper that shows the results of each Toronto election. I count dozens of people that ran for mayor. Tory won with just under 350,000 votes. Ari Goldkind finished 4th with just shy of 4,000 votes. So is this an example of a media conspiracy that none of these guys had any better plans for the city that the media could have trumpeted? Quote
Black Dog Posted October 28, 2014 Author Report Posted October 28, 2014 (edited) I'm looking at my newspaper that shows the results of each Toronto election. I count dozens of people that ran for mayor. Tory won with just under 350,000 votes. Ari Goldkind finished 4th with just shy of 4,000 votes. So is this an example of a media conspiracy that none of these guys had any better plans for the city that the media could have trumpeted? I don't understand the question. Lots of people had better ideas. That presupposes that ideas matter to voters. They don't. That's why I'm calling the voters ignorant. Edited October 28, 2014 by Black Dog Quote
Boges Posted October 28, 2014 Report Posted October 28, 2014 I don't understand the question. Lots of people had better ideas. That presupposes that ideas matter to voters. They don't. That's why I'm calling the voters ignorant. I guess you're not one of those people that think the electorate is never wrong. Of course I think the same way about Ontario continuing to elect the corrupt OLP. Quote
Black Dog Posted October 28, 2014 Author Report Posted October 28, 2014 I guess you're not one of those people that think the electorate is never wrong. Of course I think the same way about Ontario continuing to elect the corrupt OLP. Indeed. As an old journalism prof once said to me "Always remember: the masses are asses." Quote
Shady Posted October 28, 2014 Report Posted October 28, 2014 I think Tory is an excellent choice for mayor of Toronto. Quote
Black Dog Posted October 28, 2014 Author Report Posted October 28, 2014 I think Tory is an excellent choice for mayor of Toronto. You thought the same of Rob Ford, so we all know how much stock to put into your judgement on such things. Quote
cybercoma Posted October 28, 2014 Report Posted October 28, 2014 Thankfully that blowhard is gone from the City. DoFo did provide some funny commentary this morning, he said, and I quote' We've changed politics across this country'. As if Dumbass , as if. Now hopefully we get this city moving and dont hear from any of them for awhile. That electoral map may as well be an IQ test, lots of stupid people in Scarberia and north Etobicoke. Someone start a change.org petition to change the name of Etobicoke to Etobicrack Quote
guyser Posted October 28, 2014 Report Posted October 28, 2014 Someone start a change.org petition to change the name of Etobicoke to EtobicrackCant do it, only the North part of Etob voted for Ford,the south didnt. But hey, if you have a driveway crack, a sewer manhole missing a screw or a neighbour with his grass 2cm over legal limit, Robby is your man. Quote
Black Dog Posted October 29, 2014 Author Report Posted October 29, 2014 This is interesting. Ford Nation is alive and well in most of the city’s poorest neighbourhoods, a ward-by-ward analysis of Monday’s mayoral vote shows. From Rexdale and Jane-Finch in the city’s northwest to Malvern and Scarborough-Rouge River in the east, support for Ford topped 50 per cent. Although voter turnout was up across the city, with initial reports of almost 61 per cent casting ballots, it was highest in the wealthy inner core that supported mayor-elect John Tory and lowest in the struggling suburban wards that favoured Doug Ford. In Wards 7 and 8, home to the Jane-Finch neighbourhood, support for Ford was 65 per cent and 60 per cent respectively. Homeowners tend to be more likely to vote in municipal elections. I expect homeowners in these wards skew wealthier than average. So poor areas voting for Ford =! poor people voting for Ford. Quote
overthere Posted October 29, 2014 Report Posted October 29, 2014 In fairness, it was pretty hard for anyone to do that since he never released a platform. Which kind of supports my point: how can anyone who is paying attention vote for a guy who doesn't even have a platform? Are you talking about Tory or Trudeau now? Quote Science too hard for you? Try religion!
Boges Posted October 30, 2014 Report Posted October 30, 2014 Are you talking about Tory or Trudeau now? No Trudeau promises he'll submit a platform before the election. Not defending him, but I was listening to Tory on the radio and he said he didn't fully cost Smart Track because, as a candidate, he has no opportunity to do proper studies on the full costing and if he gave a full figure and it was wrong he'd have gotten grief for it. Quote
Black Dog Posted October 30, 2014 Author Report Posted October 30, 2014 No Trudeau promises he'll submit a platform before the election. Not defending him, but I was listening to Tory on the radio and he said he didn't fully cost Smart Track because, as a candidate, he has no opportunity to do proper studies on the full costing and if he gave a full figure and it was wrong he'd have gotten grief for it. Far better than to just make shit up about its costs and viability. Good lord. Quote
PIK Posted October 30, 2014 Report Posted October 30, 2014 Toronto just learned ford nation still has the power. The results told me , that tory better start listening to the nation and the progressives can shut the door on the way out. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
BubberMiley Posted October 30, 2014 Report Posted October 30, 2014 I used to think it was the stupid people who didn't vote. Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
Black Dog Posted October 30, 2014 Author Report Posted October 30, 2014 Toronto just learned ford nation still has the power. The results told me , that tory better start listening to the nation and the progressives can shut the door on the way out. With a near-record turnout, 66% of the population voted for someone other than Ford. Ford Nation is a rump. Quote
PIK Posted October 30, 2014 Report Posted October 30, 2014 With a near-record turnout, 66% of the population voted for someone other than Ford. Ford Nation is a rump.Read the numbers, he has to deal with ford supporters. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
Black Dog Posted October 30, 2014 Author Report Posted October 30, 2014 Read the numbers, he has to deal with ford supporters. What numbers? Quote
PIK Posted October 30, 2014 Report Posted October 30, 2014 What numbers? Who voted for who. Is tory going to ignore that mainly poor that voted for ford over the rich that voted for him. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
Black Dog Posted October 30, 2014 Author Report Posted October 30, 2014 Who voted for who. Is tory going to ignore that mainly poor that voted for ford over the rich that voted for him. Why not? It worked for the Fords for 14 years and counting. Quote
Keepitsimple Posted October 30, 2014 Report Posted October 30, 2014 This is interesting. Homeowners tend to be more likely to vote in municipal elections. I expect homeowners in these wards skew wealthier than average. So poor areas voting for Ford =! poor people voting for Ford. That's right - poor people voted overwhelmingly for Ford - which handily repudiates Chow's dogma of "affordable housing" and "save the children" because 3 out of 10 are living in poverty. That dogma is mainly supported by the collective righteous, elitist, downtown Left......and that's why she couldn't win a single ward outside her own little feifdom. If I hear "do it for the children" one more time, I'll barf. Quote Back to Basics
Black Dog Posted October 30, 2014 Author Report Posted October 30, 2014 That's right - poor people voted overwhelmingly for Ford - which handily repudiates Chow's dogma of "affordable housing" and "save the children" because 3 out of 10 are living in poverty. That dogma is mainly supported by the collective righteous, elitist, downtown Left......and that's why she couldn't win a single ward outside her own little feifdom. If I hear "do it for the children" one more time, I'll barf. OK: how, exactly? Quote
PIK Posted October 30, 2014 Report Posted October 30, 2014 Why not? It worked for the Fords for 14 years and counting. That is what I have been saying. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
Keepitsimple Posted October 30, 2014 Report Posted October 30, 2014 OK: how, exactly? Because that's what she ran on and nobody voted for her. The poor - the ones with children in poverty, voted for Ford. Quote Back to Basics
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