2015 Federal Election Prediction

[Boges]

What the Ontario election does prove is that scandals are irrelevant if you have a more appealing platform than the other guy.

People who are crying over F-35's or RoboCalls seem amusing when you consider the type of scandals Ontario voters overlooked last week by electing Kathleen Wynne.

Justin Trudeau still has no substantive platform. Harper will be entering the next campaign as the guy who balanced the budget. What's Trudeau got to offer by a wicked jab and nice hair?

Edited June 16, 2014 by Boges

[Moonbox]

It doesn't matter what he has to offer. All he has to do is listen to his handlers, stay positive, and be good looking. People for some reason revere his father's name and as long as Justin listens to his handlers and doesn't say the stupid garbage that his brain regularly comes up with, his smile, good looks and last name will bring him to a majority. Voters are THAT stupid.

[Boges]

Did he listen to his handlers when he said "The budget will balance itself"?

[PIK]

Are you kiddin'? With Harper at the helm we'll never run out of scandals. He hasn't disapointed yet. I'm waiting for Sona to take the stand. And then Duffy. And then Wallin. And then.....

Dream on, these so called scandals are nothing compared to chretien and Dalton. Robo calls is down to one guy, another overblown story by the media. Wallin might get thru this and I do agree about duffy. But other wise harper has had a good yr. Showed he is a true statesmen and he has done well on the economy. And that will still be front and centre in ''15''. Do you want to trust your retirement to Justin. I don't think so.

[On Guard for Thee]

Dream on, these so called scandals are nothing compared to chretien and Dalton. Robo calls is down to one guy, another overblown story by the media. Wallin might get thru this and I do agree about duffy. But other wise harper has had a good yr. Showed he is a true statesmen and he has done well on the economy. And that will still be front and centre in ''15''. Do you want to trust your retirement to Justin. I don't think so.

I would rather trust it to someone who didn't take a multi billion dollar surplus and turn it into a deficit!

[Smallc]

I would rather trust it to someone who didn't take a multi billion dollar surplus and turn it into a deficit!

Were you not around to watch every other country run up even bigger deficits during the same time period?

[On Guard for Thee]

Were you not around to watch every other country run up even bigger deficits during the same time period?

I certainly was, however Harper acheived it a year or so ahead of everybody else.

[Smallc]

That's not even close to true. Canada ran a smaller and less lengthly deficit than other countries.

[PIK]

That's not even close to true. Canada ran a smaller and less lengthly deficit than other countries.

He does not care about facts. Harper has done a great job and that just burns his ass.

[Keepitsimple]

I certainly was, however Harper acheived it a year or so ahead of everybody else.

Another drive by senseless statement - with no supporting facts. Funny thing is - now you are saying that Harper anticipated the recession and started stimulus spending ahead of everyone else?......which also is not true. And of course as usual, you'll ignore the facts and move on with another mindless comment.

[On Guard for Thee]

Another drive by senseless statement - with no supporting facts. Funny thing is - now you are saying that Harper anticipated the recession and started stimulus spending ahead of everyone else?......which also is not true. And of course as usual, you'll ignore the facts and move on with another mindless comment.

Here ya go Simple.

http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2009/10/12/ottawas_19_billion_reversal_of_fortune.html

[Smallc]

The US went into recession Q4 2007. Nice try.

[Keepitsimple]

Here ya go Simple.

http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2009/10/12/ottawas_19_billion_reversal_of_fortune.html

How about reading your own article? As I said - drive by, unsupported comments - basically you make stuff up......and then when called on the facts, you simply ignore them and move on to your next baseless claim:

By then, with the ferocity of the recession clear, governments in major countries around the world were gearing up for an unprecedented round of pro-growth debt financing. The Tories followed suit.

[On Guard for Thee]

How about reading your own article? As I said - drive by, unsupported comments - basically you make stuff up......and then when called on the facts, you simply ignore them and move on to your next baseless claim:

Which part of this paragraph don't you understand? BTW, I didn't make it up, but the Tor Star newpaper printed it.

"Part of the answer, of course, lies with the unexpectedly deep recession. But it's not that simple. The record shows the Conservatives were flirting with a deficit well before the recession hit. And, by ratcheting up expenses in good times, the Harper regime ensured the size of those deficits would be a lot larger when things went bad."

[Big Guy]

I have a prediction for the election in 2015 - Stephen Harper will NOT be the leader of the Conservative Party at election time.

Many signs: legacy building, too many years in power, shift to international stage, emergence of challengers (especially Kenney) , unrest in caucus, popularity of Trudeau, Senate court cases coming up etc. Most of the perceived problems that the current Conservatives have would leave with Harper. A newly headed Conservative party would have a better chance of maintaining a majority.

[Keepitsimple]

Which part of this paragraph don't you understand? BTW, I didn't make it up, but the Tor Star newpaper printed it.

"Part of the answer, of course, lies with the unexpectedly deep recession. But it's not that simple. The record shows the Conservatives were flirting with a deficit well before the recession hit. And, by ratcheting up expenses in good times, the Harper regime ensured the size of those deficits would be a lot larger when things went bad."

As the article says - other countries went into debt - the Tories followed suit. And remember - the NDP wanted a bigger deficit, the Liberals wanted a faster deficit. Sure - the Red Star will always find a way to take a poke at the Conservatives but "flirting with a deficit" is not a deficit. You make stuff up.

[waldo]

Simple, are you back to telling porkies about the Canadian recession "meltdown"... and how "the economist" Harper steered and saved Canada through it! I thought we took care of that in this post - yes?

[Keepitsimple]

Simple, are you back to telling porkies about the Canadian recession "meltdown"... and how "the economist" Harper steered and saved Canada through it! I thought we took care of that in this post - yes?

No, actually I wasn't. It was in response to On Guard's "making stuff up" about how the Conservatives had actually gone into deficit ahead of all the other countries. Thanks for backing me up on that......and by the way, I agree that we weathered the recession in large part because of actions taken prior to the Conservatives gaining power......but as I've said before, one of the first criterion for good government - especially the economy - is to do no harm.......and I believe the Tories - to their credit - got the "balance" just about right. Do you not reluctantly agree?

Edited June 28, 2014 by Keepitsimple

[On Guard for Thee]

No, actually I wasn't. It was in response to On Guard's "making stuff up" about how the Conservatives had actually gone into deficit ahead of all the other countries. Thanks for backing me up on that......and by the way, I agree that we weathered the recession in large part because of actions taken prior to the Conservatives gaining power......but as I've said before, one of the first criterion for good government - especially the economy - is to do no harm.......and I believe the Tories - to their credit - got the "balance" just about right. Do you not reluctantly agree?

Once again, don't blame me. Go to the Tor Star and prove their reportage wrong.

[Keepitsimple]

Once again, don't blame me. Go to the Tor Star and prove their reportage wrong.

How can I not "blame you" for making stuff up? As I already pointed out, the Star article said they "flirted with a deficit" - because even the Red Star couldn't go as far as saying they went into deficit......as you claimed they did.

Got it now?.....or will you just ignore the facts on the way to yet another baseless comment.

Edited June 28, 2014 by Keepitsimple

[On Guard for Thee]

How can I not "blame you" for making stuff up? As I already pointed out, the Star article said they "flirted with a deficit" - because even the Red Star couldn't go as far as saying they went into deficit......as you claimed they did.

Got it now?.....or will you just ignore the facts on the way to yet another baseless comment.

The Harper/Flaherty budget of 08 already had us over a billion in deficit. And that's a fact jack.

[-1=e^ipi]

I have a prediction for the election in 2015 - Stephen Harper will NOT be the leader of the Conservative Party at election time.

Many signs: legacy building, too many years in power, shift to international stage, emergence of challengers (especially Kenney) , unrest in caucus, popularity of Trudeau, Senate court cases coming up etc. Most of the perceived problems that the current Conservatives have would leave with Harper. A newly headed Conservative party would have a better chance of maintaining a majority.

Interesting. Jason Kenney is undoubtedly popular.

But Harper is still 'young' and politicians do not always do what is in the best interest of their party.

[Smallc]

The Harper/Flaherty budget of 08 already had us over a billion in deficit. And that's a fact jack.

Once again, the global recession started Q4 2007.

[On Guard for Thee]

And Harper of course will try to tell anyone gullible enough to listen that it was their good guidance that reduced the impact of the 08 recession when in fact it had a lot more to do with Canadian banking laws, well established long before Harper hit town, that kept the sub prime wolf from our door.

Edited June 28, 2014 by On Guard for Thee

[waldo]

......and by the way, I agree that we weathered the recession in large part because of actions taken prior to the Conservatives gaining power by the Chretien/Martin Liberal governments......but as I've said before, one of the first criterion for good government - especially the economy - is to do no harm.......and I believe the Tories - to their credit - got the "balance" just about right. Do you not reluctantly agree?

note: in your post, I've taken the liberty of adding the words you're most hesitant to write! As for doing no harm... if doing (essentially) nothing during that very short 3 quarter period is your prescription for "doing no harm", then Harper's your guy. Oh, wait... Harper is your guy. Carry on!