WWWTT Posted April 24, 2014 Report Posted April 24, 2014 (edited) nothing fabricated... how desperate are you? As I said, when posted, it was the most current 308 aggregate poll available. The reference you so objected to, so bristled against, was a reference to the prior year's poll results. You asked for an example... I pointed you to the most relevant/recent post within this thread - again, the one that referenced the most current prior 308 poll aggregate... and also the most recent prior EKOS poll within that aggregate. of course, I could have linked you to this one... an earlier post to the one you take such exception to. Oh, will you accept this one... or is it another of your claimed fabrications? And ya, so what, tell me what does that have to do with the comment I made with cyber??? You did not even use a recent example, I found one a 308 with more higher NDP numbers on the very same day, TODAY! As what you claimed to be the most RECENT. Oh ya, but now that's changed to the most recent IN THIS THREAD! Keep changing your story around a few words each comment at a time and you'll eventually convince yourself I wrote what you thought I wrote. Good luck WWWTT Edited April 24, 2014 by WWWTT Quote Maple Leaf Web is now worth $720.00! Down over $1,500 in less than one year! Total fail of the moderation on this site! That reminds me, never ask Greg to be a business partner! NEVER!
waldo Posted April 25, 2014 Report Posted April 25, 2014 You did not even use a recent example, I found one a 308 with more higher NDP numbers on the very same day, TODAY! As what you claimed to be the most RECENT. Oh ya, but now that's changed to the most recent IN THIS THREAD! you were provided 2 examples that were representative of the past year's polling numbers. Apparently, you were under some false impression that the NDP had not lost support over this last years time frame. Yes, you keep highlighting the recent 308 poll... that first appeared on 308 yesterday! Not only did you not know of the past year's circumstance, you didn't know the aggregate nature of the very poll you referenced. It's a shame you lucked out on a day old polling update... otherwise you would have had to link the same prior/latest 308 poll I did. You know, the one you take such exception to! Quote
waldo Posted April 25, 2014 Report Posted April 25, 2014 Arguing over polls now is about as pointless of an exercise as possible. I know you're tapped in and everything... do you have a set date for the next election? One that reaffirms your "pointless" suggestion? Quote
Shady Posted April 25, 2014 Report Posted April 25, 2014 I know you're tapped in and everything... do you have a set date for the next election? One that reaffirms your "pointless" suggestion? Isn't it going to be at least another year? Arguing about polls now is like arguing about who you think is going to win the Stanley Cup, next year. Quote
WWWTT Posted April 25, 2014 Report Posted April 25, 2014 you were provided 2 examples that were representative of the past year's polling numbers. Apparently, you were under some false impression that the NDP had not lost support over this last years time frame. Was I???? That's news to me! So what am I thinking right now waldo? Keep changing your story around a few words each comment waldo, you're getting there! Good luck! WWWTT Quote Maple Leaf Web is now worth $720.00! Down over $1,500 in less than one year! Total fail of the moderation on this site! That reminds me, never ask Greg to be a business partner! NEVER!
WWWTT Posted April 25, 2014 Report Posted April 25, 2014 Isn't it going to be at least another year? Arguing about polls now is like arguing about who you think is going to win the Stanley Cup, next year. Forget that guy Shady, he's just full of bitterness. But you make a good point here in how polls are useful! They can show trends, but they definitely don't predict the future! Lets say there's a hockey team, say the Leafs (LOL). If they suck all year and if they make the playoffs, will they win the cup? How about next year? Will they win the cup next year based on this years performance? Now maybe that's not the best cross analogy, but there is a couple strong similarities/parallels. I still believe in the importance of polls! I also believe all political parties put great investment in them and follow very closely! WWWTT Quote Maple Leaf Web is now worth $720.00! Down over $1,500 in less than one year! Total fail of the moderation on this site! That reminds me, never ask Greg to be a business partner! NEVER!
waldo Posted April 25, 2014 Report Posted April 25, 2014 Keep changing your story around a few words each comment waldo, you're getting there! Forget that guy Shady, he's just full of bitterness. no 'story changing' on my part. I've been very consistent. You on the other hand have bounced around trying to recover from your expressed confusion over the last year's polling results, your lack of knowledge on the very polling source you referenced, etc.. Whatever would I have to be bitter about? . Quote
WWWTT Posted April 25, 2014 Report Posted April 25, 2014 no 'story changing' on my part. I've been very consistent. You on the other hand have bounced around trying to recover from your expressed confusion over the last year's polling results, your lack of knowledge on the very polling source you referenced, etc.. Whatever would I have to be bitter about? . Ya, consistent on insisting you are confident I thought there wasn't a slump in the NDP numbers in Quebec, never said that though did I? But keep hammering away on what you "insist" was what I believed! Piss poor debating tactic as far as I'm concerned! WWWTT Quote Maple Leaf Web is now worth $720.00! Down over $1,500 in less than one year! Total fail of the moderation on this site! That reminds me, never ask Greg to be a business partner! NEVER!
waldo Posted April 25, 2014 Report Posted April 25, 2014 (edited) no problem... I'm sure you can extend upon your declared "From what I remember that latest poll puts the NDP in the lead in Quebec"... to actually present a poll within the last year that supports your "from what I remember" statement. You know, not including your subsequent 'eureka' moment in finding that most recent couple days old (outlier, for now) poll. Edited April 25, 2014 by waldo Quote
WWWTT Posted April 25, 2014 Report Posted April 25, 2014 (edited) Edited April 25, 2014 by WWWTT Quote Maple Leaf Web is now worth $720.00! Down over $1,500 in less than one year! Total fail of the moderation on this site! That reminds me, never ask Greg to be a business partner! NEVER!
waldo Posted April 25, 2014 Report Posted April 25, 2014 keep digging your hole deeper! Your "2 polls" were 'day old'... the context was the past year's crush of the 'Orange Crush'; i.e., the consistent loss of NDP support in Quebec over the last year. you can keep fabricating your BS, but again, at the time I posted both those 308 polls, (one in December 2013, one April 13 2014), they were, at each respective time, the most current 308 aggregate polls. Playing those polls back to you was in response to your request for examples. In the context of the past year... those are examples of the past year's crush of the Crush. Along comes 308... 2 weeks after my prior most recent posting of the most current (at the time of posting) 308 poll (on April 13, 2014)... with a new (outlier, for now) poll April 22, and you jump on it! Of course you do. you can either acknowledge the past year's consistent polling showing the 'crush of the Crush', or you can step forward and present a representative poll (within the past year, prior to the April 22 308 (outlier, for now) poll), that suggests otherwise. I realize this would be a real stretch for you... having you actually go beyond your repeated 'piss poor debating tactic' nonsense. If you're not prepared to do either of these, there's really no point in discussing anything further with you. Quote
CPCFTW Posted April 25, 2014 Report Posted April 25, 2014 (edited) Hey guys I predicted the s&p500 would increase by 10% last year with a 500% moe. Hur durrr my prediction was better than every analyst's!! Edited April 25, 2014 by CPCFTW Quote
Bryan Posted April 25, 2014 Report Posted April 25, 2014 (edited) New poll from Ipsos is showing a similar results: Likely Voters: CPC: 34 LPC: 33 NDP: 24 BQ: 5 GPC:3 http://www.ipsos-na.com/news-polls/pressrelease.aspx?id=6480 That's the highest support that Ipsos has found for the CPC since 2012. Edited April 26, 2014 by Bryan Quote
cindi Posted April 25, 2014 Report Posted April 25, 2014 Maybe with the lack of scandals and the Parliamentary press gallery in shock over this crisis, the numbers will increase again in favour of the CPC. Guess they will have to find another faux scandal. Quote The Canadian Robocall Affair may yet be filed under "History’s Greatest Hysterias " http://www.genuinewitty.com/2014/04/26/robocall-scandal-an-insiders-view-of-the-lefts-embarrassing-fraud-feat-leadnow/
waldo Posted April 26, 2014 Report Posted April 26, 2014 per Simple, I understand voters are 'starting to pay attention now'! follow it for at least a couple of cycles... I'm reading this described as the 'Flaherty Bounce' (with a related dash of actual genuine Harper emotion thrown into it). I do note the post commentary (re: Ipsos) steers from the actual provided link article's bolded title and emphasis on 'decided voters'... anything for that extra point, hey member 'Bryan'! Quote
-TSS- Posted April 26, 2014 Report Posted April 26, 2014 During the last Canadian election I remember one newspaper-article on this side of the pond reporting on your elections and your politics in general. The article described Canadian politics as being fickle. Indeed, looking at the history of Canadian elections there is a lot of changes in the voters' behaviour from one election to another but to call it fickle is both patronising and lacks the understanding of democratic procedure. Would the opposite mean that if people stuck to voting the same parties whatever the circumstances were and however the circumstances changed that would be mature? Quote
Keepitsimple Posted April 26, 2014 Report Posted April 26, 2014 Maybe with the lack of scandals and the Parliamentary press gallery in shock over this crisis, the numbers will increase again in favour of the CPC. Guess they will have to find another faux scandal. I think they're running out of teapots. Quote Back to Basics
WWWTT Posted April 26, 2014 Report Posted April 26, 2014 keep digging your hole deeper! Your "2 polls" were 'day old'... the context was the past year's crush of the 'Orange Crush'; i.e., the consistent loss of NDP support in Quebec over the last year. Oh ya that's right! When I last looked, Thomas was still the leader of the opposition and Justin was the leader of the 3rd place party! But somehow you believe that the "orange Crush" was "crushed" by mid term polls with a lame lack luster always looking in the mirror practising "pouty face" poses born into privilege Canadian idol don't know about Yukon territory politics high paid charity for no one but himself lets smoke a dooby "I'm not volunteering unless I'm Paid" leader of the liberal party???????? You got to be freekin joking buddy?!?!?!?!? That guy must scare the hell of the entire liberal caucus every time he opens his mouth when there is a microphone in front of him! No wonder your breathing into a paper bag debating style has hit an all time high pitch frenzy. Good luck in staying creative with coming up for excuses as to why the liberals are slipping in the polls over the next few months! WWWTT Quote Maple Leaf Web is now worth $720.00! Down over $1,500 in less than one year! Total fail of the moderation on this site! That reminds me, never ask Greg to be a business partner! NEVER!
On Guard for Thee Posted April 27, 2014 Report Posted April 27, 2014 Maybe with the lack of scandals and the Parliamentary press gallery in shock over this crisis, the numbers will increase again in favour of the CPC. Guess they will have to find another faux scandal. Are you kiddin'? With Harper at the helm we'll never run out of scandals. He hasn't disapointed yet. I'm waiting for Sona to take the stand. And then Duffy. And then Wallin. And then..... Quote
WWWTT Posted April 30, 2014 Report Posted April 30, 2014 So what crushed the Orange crush asks one poster here? Is it Justin? Looks like the trends are swinging away from the self confessed pot smoker. http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2014/04/30/quebec-poll-thomas-mulcair-justin-trudeau-crop_n_5235603.html?ref=topbar Smoke another dooby Justin! WWWTT Quote Maple Leaf Web is now worth $720.00! Down over $1,500 in less than one year! Total fail of the moderation on this site! That reminds me, never ask Greg to be a business partner! NEVER!
bleeding heart Posted April 30, 2014 Report Posted April 30, 2014 Well, like most people, I agree that the Orange Crush was probably something of an anomaly, and that the numbers will drop dramatically next time around. however, in some ways, the "damage is done," as an opponent of the NDP might put it. That single election has given them more credibility, more power, and a far bigger potential voting bloc. They're not going to go back to previous low levels, I don't think. Quote “There is a limit to how much we can constantly say no to the political masters in Washington. All we had was Afghanistan to wave. On every other file we were offside. Eventually we came onside on Haiti, so we got another arrow in our quiver." --Bill Graham, Former Canadian Foreign Minister, 2007
ParkdaleCon Posted June 15, 2014 Report Posted June 15, 2014 (edited) Kathleen Wynne's Liberal majority in Ontario this week only helps Harper. Ontario over the last 50 years rarely has a party of the same political stripe at Queen's Park and in Ottawa. The Tories will hold the 905, which in turn will allow them to hold onto power. I have no doubt Justin Trudeau WILL be Prime Minister of Canada one day (as scary as that thought is), but not in 2015. I know the numbers pre-writ have been dire for Harper and the CPC, but a majority for them is not out of the equation at all. A Conservative majority is far more likely than a Liberal majority at this point. Edited June 15, 2014 by ParkdaleCon Quote
jacee Posted June 16, 2014 Report Posted June 16, 2014 So what crushed the Orange crush asks one poster here? Is it Justin? Looks like the trends are swinging away from the self confessed pot smoker. http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2014/04/30/quebec-poll-thomas-mulcair-justin-trudeau-crop_n_5235603.html?ref=topbar Smoke another dooby Justin! WWWTT Give it a rest.. Quote
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