Harper's Calgary Convention Speech

[August1991]

I watched the speech.

"... pay their taxes, and play by the rules... "

"... those who do the crime should do the time... "

These are typical Harper lines. Yet they are ironic outside of voters who have no other choice.

Senate? Harper named these Senators.

"... they portray them as martyrs or even victims... "

Well, Harper named them to the Senate. I am reminded of Yeltsin forcing Gorbachev to read out the names of the coup-plotters. Stephen Harper: You named Mike Duffy and Pamela Wallin to the Senate.

"... the Wayne Gretzky of trade agreements... "

He even used the Richard Nixon line: " ... families work hard to balance their budget. So do we... "

Heck, he even used the Chretien line: "... le meilleur pays au monde... "

With such lines, I think that Harper is about to be hit with the modern world. He is like Denis Coderre.

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Harper will have his 30% or so, voters who have no other choice since they will never vote Trudeau Liberal/NDP. But Harper will not get more. Stephen Harper is damaged goods. He has lost any chance of making Conservatives get 40% of voters and win a majority in the next federal election.

[waldo]

why yes, yes... he did say this!

Ours is not the party of entitlement, not guided by power or privilege. We didn't go to Ottawa to join private clubs or become part of some elite

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[cybercoma]

With such lines, I think that Harper is about to be hit with the modern world. He is like Denis Coderre.

August, what does this even mean? You're like the Jackson Pollock of forum posters.

Edited November 2, 2013 by cybercoma

[Topaz]

I watched the speech, and his"let's not forget" lines took away from the speech. The speech was more like we hear in the House in QP. Harper won't take responsibility for anything that's happen in the last 7-8 years of his government. There were many half-truths but that's Harper.

[jacee]

Harper will have his 30% or so, voters who have no other choice since they will never vote Trudeau Liberal/NDP. But Harper will not get more. Stephen Harper is damaged goods. He has lost any chance of making Conservatives get 40% of voters and win a majority in the next federal election.[/font][/color]

And some of the 30% will just stay home, if they think Harper's going to lose.

[Shady]

Good point about his opposition. One of the best things Harper has going for him is the pathetic state of his political adversaries. It's similar to part of what Obama has going for him is the state of certain Republicans in congress.

Harper is really the only adult in the room.

[eyeball]

He's your Daddy huh?

[GostHacked]

Harper is really the only adult in the room.

Adults take responsibility for their actions.

[Shady]

Adults take responsibility for their actions.

I agree.

[cybercoma]

One of the best things Harper has going for him is the pathetic state of his political adversaries.

That's not saying a lot about Harper.

[GostHacked]

I agree.

Harper is showing none of that quality here.

[GostHacked]

That's not saying a lot about Harper.

We can talk about the pathetic state of his own appointees!!

[Topaz]

Good point about his opposition. One of the best things Harper has going for him is the pathetic state of his political adversaries. It's similar to part of what Obama has going for him is the state of certain Republicans in congress.

Harper is really the only adult in the room.

What so bad about the Tom and Justin? Tom is experience politician and Justin grew up in politics, where did Harper come from....oil industry.

[jacee]

Good point about his opposition. One of the best things Harper has going for him is the pathetic state of his political adversaries. It's similar to part of what Obama has going for him is the state of certain Republicans in congress.

Harper is really the only adult in the room.

A schoolyard bully who has hissy fits to get his way, then whines and blames everyone else for his mistakes?

That's your definition of "adult"?

[GostHacked]

A schoolyard bully who has hissy fits to get his way, then whines and blames everyone else for his mistakes?

That's your definition of "adult"?

Harper knows about the zero tolerance policy when it comes to bullying right? Or that just applies for schools?

[Smallc]

What so bad about the Tom and Justin? Tom is experience politician and Justin grew up in politics, where did Harper come from....oil industry.

So, on the flip side, what's wrong with that?

[jacee]

Harper is really the only adult in the room.

A schoolyard bully who has hissy fits to get his way, then whines and blames everyone else for his mistakes?

That's your definition of "adult"?

Harper knows about the zero tolerance policy when it comes to bullying right? Or that just applies for schools?

Anyone but him. Edited November 2, 2013 by jacee

[Argus]

Harper will have his 30% or so, voters who have no other choice since they will never vote Trudeau Liberal/NDP. But Harper will not get more. Stephen Harper is damaged goods. He has lost any chance of making Conservatives get 40% of voters and win a majority in the next federal election.

I know you cherish your absolutes, but it's 2 years to the next election, and the senate crap will have died down by then. It hasn't really damaged him a ton simply because everyone knows the senate is full of hacks anyway. By the next election the budget will be balanced and we'll be heading into the final signing of that European free trade deal. He'll probably have brought out some more voter friendly stuff, as well. Who knows what'll happen next election? Not me and certainly not you.

Of course, we can be pretty sure Quebec won't vote for him. He's not French enough.

[jacee]

I know you cherish your absolutes, but it's 2 years to the next election, and the senate crap will have died down by then.

If Nigel Wright's in jail, there just might be some party faithful who won't be entirely pleased with Harper.

But perhaps some care only about Harper loyalty, toeing the Harper line, doing the Harper two-step ... stepping on whoever he has to to stay in power.

I think the only thing Harper doesn't like about democracy is ... people.

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[Argus]

If Nigel Wright's in jail, there just might be some party faithful who won't be entirely pleased with Harper.

But perhaps some care only about Harper loyalty, toeing the Harper line, doing the Harper two-step ... stepping on whoever he has to to stay in power.

I think the only thing Harper doesn't like about democracy is ... people.

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Nigel Wright has not done anything to go to jail over.

[jacee]

Nigel Wright has not done anything to go to jail over.

You're out of the loop:

Harper called in the RCMP to investigate Wright's offer of payment to Duffy that carried a condition that Duffy keep quiet.

Duffy's being investigated for taking a bribe, and Wright's being investigated for bribing a Senator. These are RCMP criminal investigations.

Section 119 of the criminal code has been posted repeatedly. Penalty is up to 14 years.

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[jacee]

Nigel Wright has not done anything to go to jail over.

You're out of the loop:

Harper called in the RCMP to investigate Wright's offer of payment to Duffy that carried a condition that Duffy keep quiet.

Duffy's being investigated for taking a bribe, and Wright's being investigated for bribing a Senator. These are RCMP criminal investigations.

Section 119 of the criminal code has been posted repeatedly. Penalty is up to 14 years.

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As I said, the only thing Harper doesn't like about democracy is ... people, maybe because they make that squishy sound when he steps on them.

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[Argus]

You're out of the loop:

Harper called in the RCMP to investigate Wright's offer of payment to Duffy that carried a condition that Duffy keep quiet.

Duffy's being investigated for taking a bribe, and Wright's being investigated for bribing a Senator. These are RCMP criminal investigations.

Section 119 of the criminal code has been posted repeatedly. Penalty is up to 14 years.

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As I said, the only thing Harper doesn't like about democracy is ... people, maybe because they make that squishy sound when he steps on them.

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Harper can call in the RCMP to investgate my dog if he wants to. Nothing Wright or Duggy did counted as bribery. Duffy might well go to jail, but it won't be for that.

[jacee]

Harper can call in the RCMP to investgate my dog if he wants to. Nothing Wright or Duggy did counted as bribery. Duffy might well go to jail, but it won't be for that.

In your opinion, but you didn't know Wright was under investigation by the RCMP, so your opinion isn't yet well informed.

I suspect you didn't know that Harper reported Wright to the RCMP either.

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[Argus]

In your opinion, but you didn't know Wright was under investigation by the RCMP, so your opinion isn't yet well informed.

I suspect you didn't know that Harper reported Wright to the RCMP either.

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Harper does what he does for the public eye. He wanted to say "I have called in the RCMP to investigate this issue!" while self-righteously thumping the podium. I don't think he expects anything to actually come of the investigation, not, at least, of the alleged bribery.

Edited November 2, 2013 by Argus