betsy Posted October 29, 2013 Report Posted October 29, 2013 (edited) The title should've read NASA's TETRAD and The COMING FOUR BLOOD MOONS. About a month or so ago, John Hagee was talking about the coming four blood moons when I stumbled onto that channel. He was already in the middle of it, but I was intrigued by what he was actually explaining. I got glued to the tv. He was connecting NASA's predictions of coming solar and lunar eclipses (a group of 4) in 2014-2015, with the blood moons of the past. http://eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov/OH/OH2014.html It's not about the man who's delivering the message. It's about the message. He reiterated several times that he's not making the prophesy. What he's doing is simply using the scientific predictions of NASA and connecting them with the history of Israel, and he's basing this on biblical verses ( Genesis, Joel, Ezekiel, and Luke). The last 3 times the blood moons - those sets of 4 - appeared were in 1492, 1948 and 1967. NASA kept a record of those.....however, Hagee checked out those dates and those dates were significant in Israel's history.In 1492 the Edict of Expulsion was decreed in Spain. (The discovery of America is somehow related with this.) http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2147558/Christopher-Columbus-Jewish-looking-new-homeland-discovered-America-historians-say.html#ixzz2iLcOlf67 In 1948, Israel was granted his statehood. Jews came home.In 1967, that was the miracle 6-day war. Jerusalem was reunited with Israel. For the complete video of the John Hagee presentation/sermon: "The Four Blood Moons" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RiUXLUBri2Q AT another forum, I was given additional information about this. One of the information is a quite something - it's more in-depth and it included charts and videos. At the very bottom of the page is a fascinating 6-part video : 2015 Blood Red Moon.They have a Jewish Minister from El Shaddai going in-depth with his explanation about Hebrew Feasts and Hebrew interpretations, and showing how the Biblical verses tied in....a lot of the confusing verses start to make sense. A must-see!!! I just feel that I have to share this with you, guys....the 6-part videos are only approx. 10 minutes each at the most. http://www.jesusonmymind.com/services God bless you all. Edited October 29, 2013 by betsy Quote
DogOnPorch Posted October 29, 2013 Report Posted October 29, 2013 Julian or Gregorian calendar? Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
BubberMiley Posted October 29, 2013 Report Posted October 29, 2013 "Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves." -Matthew 7:15 Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
Mighty AC Posted October 29, 2013 Report Posted October 29, 2013 I haven't the time, or really the interest, to investigate the actual dates of the blood moons, but somebody may be lying or massaging the data to achieve the appearance of a trend. This 5 minute video shows how the dates don't really line up. I'm not sure if it is completely accurate but those who want to believe the prophecy claims may also want to verify them. Prophetic Blood Moons Debunked Quote "Our lives begin to end the day we stay silent about the things that matter." - Martin Luther King Jr"Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities" - Voltaire
DogOnPorch Posted October 29, 2013 Report Posted October 29, 2013 I haven't the time, or really the interest, to investigate the actual dates of the blood moons, but somebody may be lying or massaging the data to achieve the appearance of a trend. This 5 minute video shows how the dates don't really line up. I'm not sure if it is completely accurate but those who want to believe the prophecy claims may also want to verify them. Prophetic Blood Moons Debunked Seeing only one true 'Blood Moon' is possible during a 365 day period.... The Harvest Moon is the full Moon before the Fall Equinox. The Hunter's Moon is the first full Moon after.... Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
The_Squid Posted October 30, 2013 Report Posted October 30, 2013 Considering any war as a "miracle" is sick and twisted. Quote
bleeding heart Posted October 30, 2013 Report Posted October 30, 2013 Considering any war as a "miracle" is sick and twisted. Exactly. Why the need to get God involved? I guess it ultimately has something to do with End Times "prophecy." If "self-fulfilling fantasy" has any actual meaning, this kind of stuff will be it. Quote “There is a limit to how much we can constantly say no to the political masters in Washington. All we had was Afghanistan to wave. On every other file we were offside. Eventually we came onside on Haiti, so we got another arrow in our quiver." --Bill Graham, Former Canadian Foreign Minister, 2007
betsy Posted October 30, 2013 Author Report Posted October 30, 2013 (edited) Thank you for the given Blood-Moons-Supposedly-Debunked site. That guy who made that video/statement was missing the point. Whether the dates are bang-on or not, is not the point. There are numerous blood moons throughout history. They didn't all pertain or connect to Israel. But.... Blood moons - sets of 4 - all falling on Jewish feasts, and happening 3 times within a century, is remarkable to say the least. Not to mention that significant historical events happened to Israel/Jews along those time-lines. Whether the 6-day war involving Israel is indeed a miracle or not, is still not the point. That's up to individual interpretation. The issue is not about what you think of each and every historical event. The fact still remains that Israel prevailed against the odds during the 6-day war. Israel's Miracle Vistory One hundred and thirty-one hours and fifty minutes. That’s all it took for the tiny nation of Israel to devastate the armies of Egypt, Jordan and Syria between June 5 and June 10, 1967. In just six days, Israel changed the course of Middle East history and politics. At the end of one of the shortest wars in history, more than 10,000 Egyptians, 700 Jordanians and 400 Syrians had died; in addition, more than 20,000 from the three nations were wounded. Israel, on the other hand, claimed fewer than 800 dead, 2,563 wounded. That amounts to Israel killing 25 enemy troops for every one Israeli lost. http://www.thetrumpet.com/article/3636.27687.95.0/world/israels-miracle-victory I just provided this thread, and all these info for contemplation. You may choose to pooh-pooh it or not. If however, your interest is piqued, don't just stop at Hagee's video. Scroll down. Check out the 6-parts video at the bottom of the OP (link given). Those videos are only about 10 minutes each. They don't involve Hagee, and they're more in depth. Edited October 30, 2013 by betsy Quote
DogOnPorch Posted October 30, 2013 Report Posted October 30, 2013 Betsy, Lunar eclipses...if that's what your particular cult is concerned about...are a perfectly natural phenomena associated with the Moon passing through Earth's shadow. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
cybercoma Posted October 30, 2013 Report Posted October 30, 2013 Guys, please don't engage betsy. It gives me a headache. Quote
DogOnPorch Posted October 30, 2013 Report Posted October 30, 2013 Guys, please don't engage betsy. It gives me a headache. Betsy is alright...just full of strange religious convictions...like Moon worship, for example. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
cybercoma Posted October 30, 2013 Report Posted October 30, 2013 I don't mean this insultingly, but I honestly think she needs professional help. Quote
DogOnPorch Posted October 30, 2013 Report Posted October 30, 2013 I don't mean this insultingly, but I honestly think she needs professional help. Then there's a whole lot o' folks who need the same. You know my views on religion. Why not sacrifice to Apollo? Both are Bronze Age myths. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Jimmy Wilson Posted October 30, 2013 Report Posted October 30, 2013 Betsy is alright...just full of strange religious convictions...like Moon worship, for example. Moon worship? Ain't that kinda...sorta...Pagan? Quote "Neo-conservativism,I think,is really the aggrandizement of selfishness.It's about me,only me,and after that,me.It's about only investing in things that produce a huge profit for yourself.It's NOT about society as a whole and it tends to be very insensitive to those people,who for one reason or another,have fallen beneath the poverty line and it's engaged in presumptions that these people are all poor because they are lazy.Neo-conservatives believe that fundamentally..." Senator Hugh Segal
DogOnPorch Posted October 30, 2013 Report Posted October 30, 2013 Moon worship? Ain't that kinda...sorta...Pagan? It's all Pagan to me. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
The_Squid Posted October 30, 2013 Report Posted October 30, 2013 So the moon has turned to blood... according to the bible, this was supposed to happen on judgement day. Well? Where is he? If there have been lots of these moons, where the heck is he? Bible prophecy can mean anything to anyone. It is just silly. Quote
DogOnPorch Posted October 30, 2013 Report Posted October 30, 2013 So the moon has turned to blood... according to the bible, this was supposed to happen on judgement day. Well? Where is he? If there have been lots of these moons, where the heck is he? Bible prophecy can mean anything to anyone. It is just silly. See you later at the goat sacrifice? On the night I was born...the Moon turned a fire red. Well my poor mother cried out "Lord, the gypsy was right!" And I seen her, fell down right dead... Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
The_Squid Posted October 30, 2013 Report Posted October 30, 2013 Was this topic posted to generate discussion, or is it just spam? Quote
DogOnPorch Posted October 30, 2013 Report Posted October 30, 2013 Was this topic posted to generate discussion, or is it just spam? I think she's on tour spreading the 'good word' about Lunar eclipses being supernatural. I doubt we were her first stop. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
cybercoma Posted October 31, 2013 Report Posted October 31, 2013 Then there's a whole lot o' folks who need the same. You know my views on religion. Why not sacrifice to Apollo? Both are Bronze Age myths.it's not the religion. I have plenty of religious friends that I wouldn't say the same about. Quote
Moonlight Graham Posted October 31, 2013 Report Posted October 31, 2013 All scientific evidence clearly points to the position of the moon determining the fate of Israelis. Or not. Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
Mighty AC Posted October 31, 2013 Report Posted October 31, 2013 Wouldn't it be nice if magic, omnipotent beings would just tell us their wishes rather than communicating through obscure methods that don't quite hold up to rational scrutiny? This moon BS is akin to those people whose purchase comes to a significant amount like $7.77 and they take that as a sign they should buy a lottery ticket. The fewer unsupported beliefs we habour the better. Quote "Our lives begin to end the day we stay silent about the things that matter." - Martin Luther King Jr"Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities" - Voltaire
kimmy Posted October 31, 2013 Report Posted October 31, 2013 You people are making fun of Betsy's religious beliefs, and you should feel bad. This "Blood Moon" event is a serious scientific phenomenon, and deserves careful consideration. On a completely unrelated note, I've become aware of another scientific phenomenon called the "Kimmy Sunrise". It's quite rare, and I was just checking through the Naval Observatory records and it's amazing how close the recent Kimmy Sunrises coincide with tragic disasters. December 26, 2004 (Indonesia tsunami) August 28, 2005 (Hurricane Katrina) July 3, 2006 (Chris Pronger trade) January 12, 2010 (Haiti earthquake) March 11, 2011 (Japan tsunami) NASA data indicates that another Kimmy Sunrise could be upon us any day. That doesn't necessarily mean that there will be a terrible disaster to go along with it, but it is a little unsettling. Now, obviously I'm not going to tell you that you should prepare for some kind of disaster by praying for salvation or any of that sort of thing. However, I think this would be a great time to mention that I've discovered some great deals on insurance! Send me a PM for information on how you could save 10% or more on insurance... just in case. -k Quote (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ Friendly forum facilitator! ┬──┬◡ﾉ(° -°ﾉ)
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cybercoma Posted October 31, 2013 Report Posted October 31, 2013 You people are making fun of Betsy's religious beliefs, and you should feel bad. -k I'm not making fun of anything. I'm genuinely concerned. I hope her family is looking after her. Quote
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