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Huh? We Americans say that? Who knew. I'm still not sure what you're getting at. Many Blacks are "part of the American Dream."

Sorry, most Blacks are not part of the American Dream.

Why "in particular his wife?" :huh:

Let me further explain.

It's not about race or the colour of one's skin or even language or religion. It's about conquest, and slavery.

IMV, the individual has to move on - and a civilized State respects minorities..

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Sorry, most Blacks are not part of the American Dream.

I suppose it depends on one's definition of The American Dream, and then one would have to look at the rest of America and wonder how many are living it. So perhaps you have a different definition, because I'm' thinking more than a few Blacks would be insulted by your claim.

Let me further explain.

It's not about race or the colour of one's skin or even language or religion. It's about conquest, and slavery.

IMV, the individual has to move on - and a civilized State respects minorities.

Ummmm. Yeah. That pretty much goes without saying. And your point would be?
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I suspect that President Obama is happy to have the opportunity to talk about anything other than government surveillance.

Trayvon Martin could have been my son! Man, we really need to do something about income inequality in America! How 'bout them White Sox?

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Really, would Obama's son have been suspended from school more than once and kicked out of the house.

Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province

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Race baiting? Really? The president explained what it's like being a black man in America, so that white and other non-black Americans could hopefully glean some understanding of what their lived experience is like and you call it race baiting? It's pretty shameful that you would be so dismissive of his and many others' experiences that way.

I think they should be listening to bill cosby not obama.

Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.

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Oh geez... Cybercoma, it's an Internet forum.

Oh great. This is just BC/AW bait.

Zimmerman is Hispanic. What's it like being Hispanic in America today? Heck, what's it like to be an Asian walking down the street in America?

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During a similar emotional debate in Canada (that divided along linguistic lines), I recall Trudeau telling "Westerners to turn the box around" if they didn't like seeing French. That was a far better response to an emotionally charged, policy issue than Obama's statement on this case.

It's Obama's inability to bridge this fundamental American divide that I find sad in his administration.

Alot of people suffer from whiteman's guilt.

Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.

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Alot of people suffer from whiteman's guilt.

Do you really think this is the case?

“There is a limit to how much we can constantly say no to the political masters in Washington. All we had was Afghanistan to wave. On every other file we were offside. Eventually we came onside on Haiti, so we got another arrow in our quiver."

--Bill Graham, Former Canadian Foreign Minister, 2007

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I suspect that President Obama is happy to have the opportunity to talk about anything other than government surveillance.

Trayvon Martin could have been my son! Man, we really need to do something about income inequality in America! How 'bout them White Sox?

-k

On the contrary, in the US, the defining feature of Barack Obama's presidency will be his skin colour.

Just like Wilfrid Laurier's defining feature, in his time, was his religion.

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On the contrary, in the US, the defining feature of Barack Obama's presidency will be his skin colour.

Just like Wilfrid Laurier's defining feature, in his time, was his religion.

No his defining feature will be that despite all the claims to difference.... Hes exactly the same.

I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger

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No his defining feature will be that despite all the claims to difference.... Hes exactly the same.

This. Exactly this. He'll be forever remembered as the guy who got the Nobel Prize for doing nothing and in fact expanding the very things he was supposed to stop, according to the reason for his Nobel.
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This. Exactly this. He'll be forever remembered as the guy who got the Nobel Prize for doing nothing and in fact expanding the very things he was supposed to stop, according to the reason for his Nobel.

Close gitmo - No we can't

Stop the war on terror and bring the boys and girls home - No we can't.

Stop the crimes on Wall Street - No we can't

Bailing out the people and not corporations - No we can't.

Making government more transparent. - No we can't.

Protecting whistleblowers on government corruption and unconstitutional progams. - No we can't.

Cleaning up the environment - No we can't.

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Obama often forgets that he's suppose to represent ALL Americans.

They all do - and that goes for all politicians, everywhere.

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