WWWTT Posted March 26, 2013 Report Posted March 26, 2013 Sure, why not? Would you have preferred a solely written response confirming Tim’s point that China’s “mighty naval fleet” and commercial shipping is vulnerable and could be nixed by COMSUBPAC in a mater of weeks? If the US ever had the appetite to go up against such a large opponent. In US history,it has never gone up against such a large opponent on its own at this scale so what you suggest is pure fantasy! Start a thread about your war fantasy. WWWTT Quote Maple Leaf Web is now worth $720.00! Down over $1,500 in less than one year! Total fail of the moderation on this site! That reminds me, never ask Greg to be a business partner! NEVER!
Michael Hardner Posted March 26, 2013 Report Posted March 26, 2013 If the US ever had the appetite to go up against such a large opponent.hartb What do you mean by large ? Large can only mean firepower in this context, and as such there are no "large" opponents to the USA. This is lucky for us here in Canada, of course. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
WWWTT Posted March 26, 2013 Report Posted March 26, 2013 Sorry,that first line should have read,The US has never had the appetite to go up against such a large opponent(China) Large means military and economics. And why would no equal opposition to the US (the only country in any capable position to invade Canada) be a good thing for Canada,or world peace? WWWTT Quote Maple Leaf Web is now worth $720.00! Down over $1,500 in less than one year! Total fail of the moderation on this site! That reminds me, never ask Greg to be a business partner! NEVER!
DogOnPorch Posted March 26, 2013 Report Posted March 26, 2013 Sorry,that first line should have read,The US has never had the appetite to go up against such a large opponent(China) Large means military and economics. And why would no equal opposition to the US (the only country in any capable position to invade Canada) be a good thing for Canada,or world peace? WWWTT Errrr....Korean War? Or does that not count? Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
WWWTT Posted March 26, 2013 Report Posted March 26, 2013 (edited) Errrr....Korean War? Or does that not count? Go back to comment #526 that I made.Korea was part of the UN operation. Edited March 26, 2013 by WWWTT Quote Maple Leaf Web is now worth $720.00! Down over $1,500 in less than one year! Total fail of the moderation on this site! That reminds me, never ask Greg to be a business partner! NEVER!
DogOnPorch Posted March 26, 2013 Report Posted March 26, 2013 Go back to comment #527 that I made.Korea was part of the UN operation. Uh, so? A million Red Chinese is nothing to sneeze at. Or was that number somehow made less since America had a mere 95% of the fighting force? Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 26, 2013 Report Posted March 26, 2013 The image trolling and general nastiness on this thread isn't helping the discussion. False....the discussion is being furthered nicely...perhaps you just don't agree with contrarian evidence of "shame" for the invasion of Iraq. War is hell !! Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Michael Hardner Posted March 26, 2013 Report Posted March 26, 2013 False....the discussion is being furthered nicely...perhaps you just don't agree with contrarian evidence of "shame" for the invasion of Iraq. War is hell !! Actually, I felt your image was pertinent, though difficult to look at. But that may underline the seriousness of the discussion in any case. I was talking about the joke impact-font image that followed. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 26, 2013 Report Posted March 26, 2013 Actually, I felt your image was pertinent, though difficult to look at. But that may underline the seriousness of the discussion in any case. I was talking about the joke impact-font image that followed. In the context of Iraq War "shame" or evidence thereof, "jokes" are not only pertinent, but a direct contrarian view. Expressing such views is a frank and realistic assessment of pre and post war realities. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
WWWTT Posted March 26, 2013 Report Posted March 26, 2013 Uh, so? A million Red Chinese is nothing to sneeze at. Or was that number somehow made less since America had a mere 95% of the fighting force? provide the link backing your 95% claim. WWWTT Quote Maple Leaf Web is now worth $720.00! Down over $1,500 in less than one year! Total fail of the moderation on this site! That reminds me, never ask Greg to be a business partner! NEVER!
DogOnPorch Posted March 26, 2013 Report Posted March 26, 2013 provide the link backing your 95% claim. WWWTT The US provided over 325,000 men. The next UN member on the list provided 14,000. My guess was pretty close, I'd say. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_War Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
WWWTT Posted March 26, 2013 Report Posted March 26, 2013 North Korea does not equal China. True,the US was the largest supplier of troops,money and hardware,but it was to only reclaim SK.As well after the Chinese involvement,the US was more than happy to WALK AWAY with a draw!(stress on walk away) I am still correct in my analysis of the climate required for US involvement and I wouldn't hold my breath to see the US to do anything to escalate tensions with China. WWWTT Quote Maple Leaf Web is now worth $720.00! Down over $1,500 in less than one year! Total fail of the moderation on this site! That reminds me, never ask Greg to be a business partner! NEVER!
DogOnPorch Posted March 26, 2013 Report Posted March 26, 2013 North Korea does not equal China. True,the US was the largest supplier of troops,money and hardware,but it was to only reclaim SK.As well after the Chinese involvement,the US was more than happy to WALK AWAY with a draw!(stress on walk away) I am still correct in my analysis of the climate required for US involvement and I wouldn't hold my breath to see the US to do anything to escalate tensions with China. WWWTT Ummm...you have no clue what happened during the Korean War, apparently. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
WWWTT Posted March 26, 2013 Report Posted March 26, 2013 You just do not accept the fact that their is no proof that the US is willing to go it alone against a large opponent. You can spin the lesser conflicts all you want but it still does not meet the definition. WWWTT Quote Maple Leaf Web is now worth $720.00! Down over $1,500 in less than one year! Total fail of the moderation on this site! That reminds me, never ask Greg to be a business partner! NEVER!
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 26, 2013 Report Posted March 26, 2013 You just do not accept the fact that their is no proof that the US is willing to go it alone against a large opponent. You can spin the lesser conflicts all you want but it still does not meet the definition. What definition ? The US went against itself during the Civil War.....that big enough for ya ? Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
DogOnPorch Posted March 26, 2013 Report Posted March 26, 2013 What definition ? The US went against itself during the Civil War.....that big enough for ya ? I think we can both agree that the US did the vast bulk of the UN's fighting in Korea. Tiny Kapyong aside. Plus, the Red Chinese did attack across the Yalu right down past the 38th in massive force. Then there was my favorite part of the conflict.... Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
waldo Posted March 26, 2013 Author Report Posted March 26, 2013 In the context of Iraq War "shame" or evidence thereof, "jokes" are not only pertinent, but a direct contrarian view. Expressing such views is a frank and realistic assessment of pre and post war realities. clearly humour... dark humour... is an avenue to consider/pursue in making and emphasizing points. The distinction being made here is one you're not even addressing - surprise! Oh wait, perhaps you consider the ongoing ad nauseum, thread-after-thread, graphic/video displays of raw militaristic zeal and juvenile chest-thumping... "jokes" - yes? Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 26, 2013 Report Posted March 26, 2013 clearly humour... dark humour... is an avenue to consider/pursue in making and emphasizing points. The distinction being made here is one you're not even addressing - surprise! Oh wait, perhaps you consider the ongoing ad nauseum, thread-after-thread, graphic/video displays of raw militaristic zeal and juvenile chest-thumping... "jokes" - yes? Yes....such content not only demonstrates the reality then and now, but mocks any shameful pretense otherwise. Far from being 'juvenile chest thumping', the United States and other nations decided then and continue to decide to exercise such power projection in the pursuit of national and collective interests. Syrians are dropping like flies....go save them. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
waldo Posted March 26, 2013 Author Report Posted March 26, 2013 Yes....such content not only demonstrates the reality then and now, but mocks any shameful pretense otherwise. yes? Oh my... joking??? So in every thread where you and your brothers-at-arms continue to throw down war-porn... you're just joking?... in the name of reality, while mocking shameful pretense! Here I thought you guys were just satisfying a porn addiction - but you're deep, deeper than that! Quote
DogOnPorch Posted March 26, 2013 Report Posted March 26, 2013 (edited) yes? Oh my... joking??? So in every thread where you and your brothers-at-arms continue to throw down war-porn... you're just joking?... in the name of reality, while mocking shameful pretense! Here I thought you guys were just satisfying a porn addiction - but you're deep, deeper than that! I'd be joking a lot, too. Edited March 26, 2013 by DogOnPorch Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
waldo Posted March 26, 2013 Author Report Posted March 26, 2013 I'd be joking a lot, too.you're more of an enabler... you try hard, but clearly you haven't the chops your other comrades bring to the war-porn "jokes" table. Invariably, when you get your marching orders, when they send you out on forays, you come back with the lame and lack-luster. Perhaps you need coaching - have you ever considered why they keep you down/subservient? Quote
DogOnPorch Posted March 26, 2013 Report Posted March 26, 2013 you're more of an enabler... you try hard, but clearly you haven't the chops your other comrades bring to the war-porn "jokes" table. Invariably, when you get your marching orders, when they send you out on forays, you come back with the lame and lack-luster. Perhaps you need coaching - have you ever considered why they keep you down/subservient? Ah yes, the cheap personal attack. Either way, I'd be joking a lot too...if you knew what that item actually was. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 26, 2013 Report Posted March 26, 2013 yes? Oh my... joking??? So in every thread where you and your brothers-at-arms continue to throw down war-porn... you're just joking?... in the name of reality, while mocking shameful pretense! Here I thought you guys were just satisfying a porn addiction - but you're deep, deeper than that! Yes....reality bites that way. Have you saved the dying Syrians yet ? Please hurry..... Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 26, 2013 Report Posted March 26, 2013 I'd be joking a lot, too. Ahhh...fond memories...the real one is locked in the small safe. Feel their shame as they launch death from above. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
DogOnPorch Posted March 26, 2013 Report Posted March 26, 2013 Yes....reality bites that way. Have you saved the dying Syrians yet ? Please hurry..... I'm thinking it probably got pretty 3 Stooges-like in Syria trying to field load those SCUDs. Play the video again, Amir....I missed the second step. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
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