Pliny Posted March 6, 2013 Report Share Posted March 6, 2013 Last week Obama made dire predictions about the effects of sequestration, were they just warnings or were they thinly veiled threats. I don't believe it is the President's job to create chaos by making dire predictions instead he should be reassuring all that things are under control. Once again he takes no responsibility and just points a finger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 6, 2013 Report Share Posted March 6, 2013 President Obama is learning that he does not have the same chops as The Great Communicator. Gospel inspired oratory is one thing, but Obama just hasn't hit his stride in this regard. Frankly, for many Americans the novelty has worn off...honeymoon long over. He can't solve conflicts with Congress the way that Reagan or Clinton could. Why ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimmy Posted March 6, 2013 Report Share Posted March 6, 2013 Perhaps Obama is overhyping the consequences of sequestration in an effort to put political pressure on Congress. Perhaps Obama is not in the same league as Clinton or Reagan. Perhaps Obama's adversaries in Congress differ from those of prior years in that some seem to view their one and only mission as opposing tax increases, and others seem to view their one and only mission as opposing Obama. Perhaps I will go microwave some casserole. -k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pliny Posted March 6, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 6, 2013 Perhaps Obama is overhyping the consequences of sequestration in an effort to put political pressure on Congress.Yes he is over-hyping, isn't he.Perhaps Obama is not in the same league as Clinton or Reagan.Perhaps. They were both at least in the American league.Perhaps Obama's adversaries in Congress differ from those of prior years in that some seem to view their one and only mission as opposing tax increases, and others seem to view their one and only mission as opposing Obama.I believe there were tax increases, the tax rate for those making $400,000 or more went up. But once they were in place there was just a call for more tax increases and still no call for spending cuts. Somehow that's called the "balanced approach". Perhaps I will go microwave some casserole. -k Mmmm.....sounds good... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldo Posted March 6, 2013 Report Share Posted March 6, 2013 Last week Obama made dire predictions about the effects of sequestration, were they just warnings or were they thinly veiled threats. I don't believe it is the President's job to create chaos by making dire predictions instead he should be reassuring all that things are under control. Once again he takes no responsibility and just points a finger. threats? How is Obama threatening? Threatening what? Sequestration intent/detail is... what it is. A Republican Party 'own goal'... a direct result of the insistence by Republicans leaders that they would not raise the federal debt ceiling unless Obama agreed to "spending cuts" - the spending cuts became... "the sequestration". Just what kind of "Pliny advice" would be helpful reassurance... that "all things are under control"? Is there some magical control mechanism to manage the mandated sequestration cuts? U.S. Government: managing one GOP fueled debt/deficit crisis after another! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pliny Posted March 6, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 6, 2013 threats? How is Obama threatening? Threatening what? Sequestration intent/detail is... what it is. A Republican Party 'own goal'... a direct result of the insistence by Republicans leaders that they would not raise the federal debt ceiling unless Obama agreed to "spending cuts" - the spending cuts became... "the sequestration". Just what kind of "Pliny advice" would be helpful reassurance... that "all things are under control"? Is there some magical control mechanism to manage the mandated sequestration cuts? U.S. Government: managing one GOP fueled debt/deficit crisis after another! Yes waldo, the GOP cause everything. Just keep telling yourself that. Obama has his hands full. Lucky for you he warns you of the consequences of what the GOP is doing so you can prepare. Their whole intent is to destroy America or maybe just fundamentally transform it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted March 6, 2013 Report Share Posted March 6, 2013 he should be reassuring all that things are under control. So he should lie, just to make the Republicans look like something they're not then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted March 6, 2013 Report Share Posted March 6, 2013 Yes waldo, the GOP cause everything. They don't cause everything, but they're certainly the ones being idiots here causing problems. Digging your heels in and not compromising at all is not the way politics works. They're a bunch of amateurs in office right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pliny Posted March 6, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 6, 2013 They don't cause everything, but they're certainly the ones being idiots here causing problems. Digging your heels in and not compromising at all is not the way politics works. They're a bunch of amateurs in office right now.Well, if the rich would only pay their fair share all would be well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pliny Posted March 6, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 6, 2013 So he should lie, just to make the Republicans look like something they're not then.He should tell the truth and just express his concern about those dratted Republicans spoiling everything for him and trying to fundamentally transform America before he gets a chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roy baty Posted March 8, 2013 Report Share Posted March 8, 2013 (edited) They don't cause everything, but they're certainly the ones being idiots here causing problems. Digging your heels in and not compromising at all is not the way politics works. They're a bunch of amateurs in office right now. Name 1 single SPECIFIC thing Obama has offered in cuts to compromise?? One. No generalities. Specifics please. There are no specifics because he has NO specific plan. It's all "we're gonna do this, or that" generalities. He even rejected his OWN commission's report telling him bluntly that he has to cut spending or they're in deep trouble and you are saying they are the idiots? Keep drinking the Kool-Aid Cyber.. If he gains control of congress or keeps refusing to be a true leader for the US people , he will easily double the US debt by the end of his term. He is the President. He is supposed to be the one to compromise for the good of the nation. Instead his quest to destroy the GOP and take congress in 2014 is his #1 priority. He is the worst president in US history and history will someday show him as the man who lead his country into ruin. Nero is already fiddling and Obama is helping.. Edited March 8, 2013 by roy baty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkman Posted March 8, 2013 Report Share Posted March 8, 2013 President Obama is learning that he does not have the same chops as The Great Communicator. Gospel inspired oratory is one thing, but Obama just hasn't hit his stride in this regard. Frankly, for many Americans the novelty has worn off...honeymoon long over. He can't solve conflicts with Congress the way that Reagan or Clinton could. Why ? Even the hated one, Dubya, knew how to get things done with Congress. Obama hasn't gotten a budget through Congress in 4 years. Instead of making compromises like Reagan, Bush, Clinton and Dubya, he feels that he shouldn't have to. That mindset seems elitist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted March 8, 2013 Report Share Posted March 8, 2013 They don't cause everything, but they're certainly the ones being idiots here causing problems. Digging your heels in and not compromising at all is not the way politics works. They're a bunch of amateurs in office right now. Complete nonsense. They've already compromised. They agreed to raise taxes on the top income rate. They got zero spending cuts in return for it. Now they're asking and recieved said spending cuts. It's a balanced approach. It used to be that raising taxes on the rich and cutting defense spending was something that would win over Democrats. It just goes to show how screwed that party is now. They can't be satisfied. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted March 8, 2013 Report Share Posted March 8, 2013 Even the hated one, Dubya, knew how to get things done with Congress. Obama hasn't gotten a budget through Congress in 4 years. Instead of making compromises like Reagan, Bush, Clinton and Dubya, he feels that he shouldn't have to. That mindset seems elitist. Yep, the Democrat controlled Senate hasn't passed a budget in over 4 years. Makes it hard for regular order of the government to take place. There's never any Democrat version of a budget to reconcile with the house Republican version. That used to be the normal way things were done. That is, until Democrats took control of the Senate. Now it's budget by crisis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkman Posted March 8, 2013 Report Share Posted March 8, 2013 Hey Shady, back from holidays! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punked Posted March 9, 2013 Report Share Posted March 9, 2013 Complete nonsense. They've already compromised. They agreed to raise taxes on the top income rate. They got zero spending cuts in return for it. Now they're asking and recieved said spending cuts. It's a balanced approach. It used to be that raising taxes on the rich and cutting defense spending was something that would win over Democrats. It just goes to show how screwed that party is now. They can't be satisfied. Complete Nonsense. Obama has already compromised. Obama gave them 1.1 TRILLION DOLLARS in spending cuts with out one dollar of tax revenue in return. Now all they are asking for is a little revenue. Its a balanced approach. It use to be cutting spending with out tax increases would win over Republicans. It just goes to show how screwed that party is now. They can't be satisfied. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pliny Posted March 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2013 Complete Nonsense. Obama has already compromised. Obama gave them 1.1 TRILLION DOLLARS in spending cuts with out one dollar of tax revenue in return. Now all they are asking for is a little revenue. Its a balanced approach. It use to be cutting spending with out tax increases would win over Republicans. It just goes to show how screwed that party is now. They can't be satisfied.You do know that those cuts, which were 1.2 trillion, were cuts to increases in baseline budgets, not actual cuts in spending and they were over a ten year period. Those cuts mean absolutely nothing to the level of current spending. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonam Posted March 9, 2013 Report Share Posted March 9, 2013 The cuts are pretty stupid. They gut key funding for already direly underfunded research and education to save a few pennies while the trillions upon trillions of dollars of costs of unsustainable entitlement programs remain protected. The US will sink deeper and deeper into debt until changes are made to Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid. At the rate the costs of these programs are growing, in another few decades you couldn't pay for them if you taxed everything in the economy at 100%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortlived Posted March 9, 2013 Report Share Posted March 9, 2013 (edited) Cuts arn't deep enough, US policy is just batbrained in terms of economics and finances it is a long road to ruin. They need to get their stuff in order. Take over the federal reserve and make their own currency already. It is just a fascist system run by bankers as is. Edited March 9, 2013 by shortlived Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punked Posted March 9, 2013 Report Share Posted March 9, 2013 You do know that those cuts, which were 1.2 trillion, were cuts to increases in baseline budgets, not actual cuts inspending and they were over a ten year period. Those cuts mean absolutely nothing to the level of current spending. That must be why the deficit is shrinking at the fastest rate it ever has right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWWTT Posted March 9, 2013 Report Share Posted March 9, 2013 President Obama is learning that he does not have the same chops as The Great Communicator. Gospel inspired oratory is one thing, but Obama just hasn't hit his stride in this regard. Frankly, for many Americans the novelty has worn off...honeymoon long over. He can't solve conflicts with Congress the way that Reagan or Clinton could. Why ? Partisan politics,the tea party? WWWTT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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