Wild Bill Posted July 9, 2013 Report Posted July 9, 2013 True enough. While he was no means a "super-mayor" sitting in his driveway so he could enjoy the air conditioning in his car, he may well have been stuck in a lake if he tried to get to work. Who's to say. Exactly. Who's to say? Still, he had enough time to pull a Mel Lastman and scream like a little girl for the feds to send in the army! LOL Quote "A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul." -- George Bernard Shaw "There is no point in being difficult when, with a little extra effort, you can be completely impossible."
Black Dog Posted July 9, 2013 Report Posted July 9, 2013 Well, that may be true, Bubba. Still, we should consider the nature of this event. It wasn't something like the Red River floods that happened over several weeks. It was an overnight thing - a huge thunderstorm. The power went out. The streets were flooded. It was the middle of the night. By the time they could have gotten in contact with Ford, let alone got to him and taken him somewhere to start coordinating action, it would be over! We're talking only a few hours here! That is not enough time to begin any sort of action. By the time they could have gotten Ford to a microphone it was over. The water was well on the way to draining out of the system. What are you talking about? The storm rolled in around 5 o'clock. Power was down in the core until around 7:30. The reason it was so intense a problem is that Toronto, like many cities, has allowed much new development without investing in more sewer infrastructure. We have similar although smaller floods here in Hamilton all the time. Without more sewers when you get a huge amount of rain in a very short time it backs up and floods over the streets. When the rain stops, the water very quickly drains away. Thank goodness we have a mayor who wants to re-invest in the city oh wait he just wants to cut taxes. Kinda seems to me that if Ford invented a cure for cancer some folks would jump on him for putting doctors out of work. Things must be taken in context and real world realities must apply. Times like this, it's easy for even a barely competent public official to look good. Ford couldn't even rise to that level (the Ford Fest tweets from his official account in the middle of the storm was a true work of genius.) Quote
Sandy MacNab Posted July 10, 2013 Report Posted July 10, 2013 It is pretty obvious that there is a core of lefties and other politically correct hyenas that are going to harass Ford no matter what he does. Hell, if he were to fart in his own back yard and the wrong person (say, a Star "reporter") down-wind were to smell it, Ford would be reported to be unleashing toxic poisons throughout the city. Fer gawd's sake, give the man a break. Quote
Black Dog Posted July 10, 2013 Report Posted July 10, 2013 It is pretty obvious that there is a core of lefties and other politically correct hyenas that are going to harass Ford no matter what he does. Hell, if he were to fart in his own back yard and the wrong person (say, a Star "reporter") down-wind were to smell it, Ford would be reported to be unleashing toxic poisons throughout the city. Fer gawd's sake, give the man a break. The scrutiny given to Ford's various extra-curricular activities are the best thing for him. Without that people like you would actually have to look at his record which is...not good. Quote
Wild Bill Posted July 10, 2013 Report Posted July 10, 2013 The scrutiny given to Ford's various extra-curricular activities are the best thing for him. Without that people like you would actually have to look at his record which is...not good. Don't you see, BD? The criticism of Ford is so over the top that many of us never bother looking at his record. We are already turned off by what looks like a bunch of loopy lefties barking like hyenas! It all seems so whacko that Ford's critics just can't be taken seriously, even when and if they are right. Quote "A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul." -- George Bernard Shaw "There is no point in being difficult when, with a little extra effort, you can be completely impossible."
Black Dog Posted July 10, 2013 Report Posted July 10, 2013 Don't you see, BD? The criticism of Ford is so over the top that many of us never bother looking at his record. We are already turned off by what looks like a bunch of loopy lefties barking like hyenas! How is it over the top? Can someone name me one Ford scandal that he wasn't in some way complicit in or contribute to? It all seems so whacko that Ford's critics just can't be taken seriously, even when and if they are right. Crack smoking incompetent as mayor is pretty whacko. Quote
guyser Posted July 10, 2013 Report Posted July 10, 2013 It all seems so whacko that Ford's critics just can't be taken seriously, even when and if they are right. I am sensing a trend here. Its whacko, but true. Its whacko and not true. TO is supported by the rest of the province, TO supports the Province. I get that some people are whackos and shouldnt be listened to. However, the vast majority of criticisms against Ford bore out to be true. So, they are true, but whacko. Quote
Wild Bill Posted July 10, 2013 Report Posted July 10, 2013 How is it over the top? Can someone name me one Ford scandal that he wasn't in some way complicit in or contribute to? Crack smoking incompetent as mayor is pretty whacko. BD, the whole crack video think was fishy! No video, unnamed sources, the very idea that a fat guy like Ford was a crackhead in the first place and even wilder - his first choice of crack party companions would be Somali drug dealers - the list goes on! Law suits that don't stand up in court, Star photographers leaning over his fence, spying on him, suggestions that because of the controversy HIS ENEMIES CREATED he should step down until the air is clear - like that will ever happen! It all makes sense to YOU because you hated Ford and anyone like him from the start! It is obvious you just don't like people who are not left wing. That's your right, but other people are going to chose what to believe themselves also. Hence the present situation and the loss of credibility of Ford's attackers by a significant number of people. If Ford's critics want to do a GOOD smear campaign, they should hire an expert like Warren Kinsella. And Guyser2, the vast majority of Ford's criticisms did NOT turn out to be true, especially before a judge! They are true in YOUR mind! Others have a different opinion. Me, I don't really like the guy either but that doesn't mean I don't support his right to presumption of innocence. I champion that right even with people NOT of my political stripe! That would seem to put me in a VERY small group these days, particularly on MLW. Quote "A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul." -- George Bernard Shaw "There is no point in being difficult when, with a little extra effort, you can be completely impossible."
guyser Posted July 10, 2013 Report Posted July 10, 2013 And Guyser2, the vast majority of Ford's criticisms did NOT turn out to be true, especially before a judge! They are true in YOUR mind! Others have a different opinion. Me, I don't really like the guy either but that doesn't mean I don't support his right to presumption of innocence. Yea about that, a criticism is not a court case. You do know he lost the conflict of interest case ...right? So which case did not turn out to be true? Quote
Boges Posted July 10, 2013 Report Posted July 10, 2013 (edited) Yea about that, a criticism is not a court case.You do know he lost the conflict of interest case ...right?So which case did not turn out to be true? That's like saying someone who's murder conviction was overturned on appeal still committed the murder. You could argue voting on a motion forcing him to pay back money was conflict of interest. But if council had no legal ability to force him to payback the donations in the first place then how could it be conflict of interest? Chicken or Egg. He's actually considered, by some, to be a teflon mayor. The lawsuit over comments regarding the Beaches Pub didn't stick. There's no way to throw him out over $40,000 in excess campaign spending. The Conflict case was overturned. Even this Crack Cocaine thing has simmered down and never really effected his numbers. Edited July 10, 2013 by Boges Quote
Black Dog Posted July 10, 2013 Report Posted July 10, 2013 BD, the whole crack video think was fishy! No video, unnamed sources, the very idea that a fat guy like Ford was a crackhead in the first place and even wilder - his first choice of crack party companions would be Somali drug dealers - the list goes on! Not gonna rehash this again, except to repeat that the reason this story was so plausible was because of Ford's public issues with booze and drugs. That Ford has some substance issues is an open secret among city hall insiders. Law suits that don't stand up in court, Star photographers leaning over his fence, spying on him, suggestions that because of the controversy HIS ENEMIES CREATED he should step down until the air is clear - like that will ever happen! Say that reminds me: Doug Ford said there was surveillance video showing the Star reporter (not photographer) "spying" on RoFo. Where'd that video end up? It all makes sense to YOU because you hated Ford and anyone like him from the start! It is obvious you just don't like people who are not left wing. Er. No. I don't really consider Ford to be right wing. He's just an incompetent buffoon who has no business running a major city. Quote
guyser Posted July 10, 2013 Report Posted July 10, 2013 That's like saying someone who's murder conviction was overturned on appeal still committed the murder.No it isnt. It would be akin to an appeal court lowering the time to serve. The conviction still stood. Quote
Shady Posted July 10, 2013 Report Posted July 10, 2013 Wow, the posts in this thread are going fast and furious. You guys uncover that "video" yet? Quote
Black Dog Posted July 10, 2013 Report Posted July 10, 2013 Wow, the posts in this thread are going fast and furious. You guys uncover that "video" yet? We're not talking about the video. Now hush and leave the grownups alone. Quote
Shady Posted July 10, 2013 Report Posted July 10, 2013 We're not talking about the video. Now hush and leave the grownups alone.I'd say discussing the plausiblility of the crack smoking is essentially discussing the video. Glad to see you've moved on to such important stuff.#Grownups Quote
Black Dog Posted July 10, 2013 Report Posted July 10, 2013 I'd say discussing the plausiblility of the crack smoking is essentially discussing the video. Glad to see you've moved on to such important stuff. #Grownups You would. But you'd be wrong. As always. Quote
Shady Posted July 10, 2013 Report Posted July 10, 2013 Not gonna rehash this again, except to repeat that the reason this story was so plausible was because of Ford's public issues with booze and drugs. Quote
guyser Posted July 10, 2013 Report Posted July 10, 2013 Not gonna rehash this again, except to repeat that the reason this story was so plausible was because of Ford's public issues with booze and drugs.Yup. You are still wrong. Anyone who denies he has issues w booze and drugs is lying to themselves. Quote
Shady Posted July 10, 2013 Report Posted July 10, 2013 Yup.You are still wrong.Anyone who denies he has issues w booze and drugs is lying to themselves.What does "issues" mean? Define that. Also, prove what you say. And don't use a nom-existent video! Quote
guyser Posted July 10, 2013 Report Posted July 10, 2013 What does "issues" mean? Define that. Also, prove what you say. And don't use a nom-existent video! Good grief. You didnt pass grade 4? Ok , well then....Issues-5. Informal A personal problem or emotional disorder: No sense even trying to explain to someone of your ilk, you will deny his pot charge, getting thrown out (and lying about it ) from the ACC when he was (still is really) acting like a fat drunk and stupid man. Back that horse shady, the wrong one, but you back it ...k ? Quote
PIK Posted July 10, 2013 Report Posted July 10, 2013 (edited) I guess we need new attacks on ford so people will stay away from the pervert that was making these perverted rules for youngsters at school that just got charged with child porn. Simply amazing. Edited July 10, 2013 by PIK Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
g_bambino Posted July 11, 2013 Report Posted July 11, 2013 No sense even trying to explain to someone of your ilk, you will deny his pot charge, getting thrown out (and lying about it ) from the ACC when he was (still is really) acting like a fat drunk and stupid man. Don't forget his DUI conviction. Quote
Shady Posted July 11, 2013 Report Posted July 11, 2013 Good grief. You didnt pass grade 4? Ok , well then....Issues-5. Informal A personal problem or emotional disorder: No sense even trying to explain to someone of your ilk, you will deny his pot charge, getting thrown out (and lying about it ) from the ACC when he was (still is really) acting like a fat drunk and stupid man. Back that horse shady, the wrong one, but you back it ...k ? So what? That stuff was mentioned dozens of pages ago. Why are you still talking about it? Does all that mean the video exists? Nope. You're just completely and utterly obsessed with the man. You and a few others in this forum. Give it a rest already. You're adding absolutely nothing new to everything that's already been said. None of you are. It's absurd. Quote
WWWTT Posted July 11, 2013 Author Report Posted July 11, 2013 I thought we moved on from the crack issue? The current criticism is about his lack of presence during the record one day rainfall/flooding in Toronto. But hey,that's Toronto politics.That's just the way she goes. I remember when Miller was the mayor and how he was severely criticized all the while the mayors of Mississauga and Brampton (McCallion and Fennel respectively) were raising taxes like freekin crazy and nobody said squate! Same thing in this case,the floods were just as bad in Peel,but where was Susan Fennel or Hazel???? WWWTT Quote Maple Leaf Web is now worth $720.00! Down over $1,500 in less than one year! Total fail of the moderation on this site! That reminds me, never ask Greg to be a business partner! NEVER!
g_bambino Posted July 11, 2013 Report Posted July 11, 2013 The current criticism is about his lack of presence during the record one day rainfall/flooding in Toronto. I think many were happy he wasn't anywhere to be seen. Quote
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