David Suzuki & Jimmy Savile

[August1991]

What disturbs me is that someone would go to the trouble of trying to enculturate me to believe Suzuki would.

Fair enough. You've made your point. And I've made mine.

[waldo]

Fair enough. You've made your point. And I've made mine.

your point? Which was what again?

[WIP]

your point? Which was what again?

My theory is that it is another projection of authoritarians thinking that liberals are also authoritarian thinkers. Otherwise this gibberish is hard to explain:" What frightens me is that someone (Suzuki, Harper, Savile, Obama) could cultivate such adulation that they could get away with murder.

It seems to me that the Left is more inclined to adulate."

[msj]

your point? Which was what again?

WIP has nailed it although since this is an August thread I think the simpler view is that August just wanted to link an old creepy guy who likes young, but presumably of age, females to another really really creepy guy who liked young, not of age, kids and is now known posthumously as a pedophile.

So, really, the thread should be closed down for the insinuation that Suzuki is somehow comparable to a pedophile creep based on some flimsy evidence that would not stand up in court and, for which, I believe a libel suit could be brought against August for this clumsy association.

IOW, the thread started out as nothing more than an ad hominem attack and has only improved since then thanks to WIP and eyeball.

Edited February 9, 2013 by msj

[DogOnPorch]

Aside from Dr. Suzuki's ridiculous rock-star rider* which makes similar demands as Van Halen at the height of their career, why is a CBC employee...who is supposed to be "politically neutral"...ordering Sun News away from his events? Events open to the media. Events to which Sun News was invited? Let's hear your take on the situation.

*Like Ghandi, Dr. Suzuki likes a nicely dressed, all female entourage to escort him to his $30,000+ speaking dates.

Here's the footage so far:

http://www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/video/featured/prime-time/867432237001/sun-reporter-upsets-saint-suzukis-followers/2193757182001

[DogOnPorch]

Of course, the 'politically neutral' bit is over this:

http://www2.macleans.ca/2013/02/21/david-suzuki-endorses-liberal-leadership-hopeful-joyce-murray/

[waldo]

Aside from Dr. Suzuki's ridiculous rock-star rider* which makes similar demands as Van Halen at the height of their career, why is a CBC employee...who is supposed to be "politically neutral"...ordering Sun News away from his events? Events open to the media. Events to which Sun News was invited? Let's hear your take on the situation.

*Like Ghandi, Dr. Suzuki likes a nicely dressed, all female entourage to escort him to his $30,000+ speaking dates.

perhaps FNN will realize, if only for a flickering moment, there are consequences to printing/broadcasting fabricated mis/disinformation. By the by... there was no such described "rider", regardless of whatever you gobble up from FNN. Was the good doctor acting as a CBC employee at the event?

[DogOnPorch]

perhaps FNN will realize, if only for a flickering moment, there are consequences to printing/broadcasting fabricated mis/disinformation. By the by... there was no such described "rider", regardless of whatever you gobble up from FNN. Was the good doctor acting as a CBC employee at the event?

I've met and was taught by David and he was a really cool guy at the time. But, that was a long time ago before he became the icon he is today. My point is that I think he's going a bit looney. A chance to speak to the 'unconverted' and he acts like an ass, frankly. But, I do think it's a problem that a famous CBC employee is using his position to endorse a political party. If you do not...that's also fine. I'm looking for opinions. I'm just wondering if David has become or is becoming the very monster he claims to be against.

From David's own website:

1. Will you fund or endorse my product, project, studies, website, etc?

   • Unfortunately, we are

     unable to endorse or fund specific products and companies that we aren't

     directly involved with. We do not have the financial resources or staff

     capacity to do the required research for each of the many requests for

     endorsement we receive. We do not offer funds for tuition or studies.

Edited February 28, 2013 by DogOnPorch

[PIK]

Sun News Network booted from David Suzuki speech

http://www.torontosun.com/2013/02/27/david-suzuki-boots-sun-news-network-from-speech

Why is he so scared of sun reporters,is it because of tough questions, even the wonder boy won't talk to them. LOL

[Michael Hardner]

Why does he have to be politically neutral ?

[Fletch 27]

Its unfortunate that the MEdia has given this nut-job such a high pedestal to preach and gouge. This guy should be ashamed of himself.. 30,000K from a school?? How much more money does he need to steal?

[guyser]

Its unfortunate that the MEdia has given this nut-job such a high pedestal to preach and gouge. This guy should be ashamed of himself.. 30,000K from a school?? How much more money does he need to steal?

Yea no kidding....being handed a cheque after contractual obligations are met is such a slimy thing to do.

Im guessing you see lots wrong with this, but certainly not when Mayor Ford bans the Star....thats good!

[DogOnPorch]

Why does he have to be politically neutral ?

CBC contract.

[Fletch 27]

Yea no kidding....being handed a cheque after contractual obligations are met is such a slimy thing to do.

Im guessing you see lots wrong with this, but certainly not when Mayor Ford bans the Star....thats good!

Now your gettin it! Morals and ethics are not seen in Sir.Suzuki.. What then pray tell would your comments be on Sir.Suzuki completely banning Sun News? When he espouses all these so called "Facts"? With no-one to account to?

Please,

[guyser]

Now your gettin it! Morals and ethics are not seen in Sir.Suzuki.. What then pray tell would your comments be on Sir.Suzuki completely banning Sun News? When he espouses all these so called "Facts"? With no-one to account to?

Please,

Should I use pink font indicating sarcasm or would that be a problem for you?

IOW,......stand up , it went right over your head.

[Michael Hardner]

CBC contract.

Do you have a source on that ?

[shortlived]

CBC contract.

This neutrality was around back in the days when all Canadians were green and supported the environment before the Conservative rape the planet deluge.

Edited February 28, 2013 by shortlived

[The_Squid]

Its unfortunate that the MEdia has given this nut-job such a high pedestal to preach and gouge. This guy should be ashamed of himself.. 30,000K from a school?? How much more money does he need to steal?

How did he steal anything? This is pure hyperbole.

[guyser]

How did he steal anything? This is pure hyperbole.

This whole thread should have been deleted due to the attempted and horribly failed connection of Savile and Suzuki.

[DogOnPorch]

Do you have a source on that ?

The CBC mandate from the 1991 Broadcasting Act. Even Ezra Levant pays for Dr. Suzuki's participation in the CBC. In theory, CBC is supposed to consider everybody's POV fairly...but then there's reality.

[jbg]

Its unfortunate that the MEdia has given this nut-job such a high pedestal to preach and gouge. This guy should be ashamed of himself.. 30,000K from a school?? How much more money does he need to steal?

If people want to pay $30,000 for a charlatan to preach, so be it. If that's public money, I begin to have problems with it.

[DogOnPorch]

If people want to pay $30,000 for a charlatan to preach, so be it. If that's public money, I begin to have problems with it.

He's certainly not a charlatan, but he's not used to being treated as anything other than the final word on the subject. For the record, most of what he goes on about is true if you ask me. I mean yeeesh...do the math. The population has doubled in our lifetimes at the expense of planet Earth. It's really a no brainer.

But, much like I cringe when Micheal Coren goes on about religion, I also cringe when Dr. Suzuki starts in on one of his scoldings.

[Michael Hardner]

The CBC mandate from the 1991 Broadcasting Act. Even Ezra Levant pays for Dr. Suzuki's participation in the CBC. In theory, CBC is supposed to consider everybody's POV fairly...but then there's reality.

You haven't shown where CBC staff are obliged to be politically neutral. Simply linking to the 1991 Broadcasting Act doesn't cut it - what specifically says that CBC staff have to be politically neutral ? And how would such a subjective rule be enforced ?

[DogOnPorch]

You haven't shown where CBC staff are obliged to be politically neutral. Simply linking to the 1991 Broadcasting Act doesn't cut it - what specifically says that CBC staff have to be politically neutral ? And how would such a subjective rule be enforced ?

The CBC mandate is listed under the CBC. I have no vested interest in proving it to you. Read away.

[waldo]

The CBC mandate is listed under the CBC. I have no vested interest in proving it to you. Read away.

the following reference is to an email between a CBC spokesperson and FNN - you're welcome!

The CBC has a rule that on-air personalities, both freelance and full-time, remain politically neutral and never endorse political candidates.

“(Employees) are restricted from engaging in political activity defined as running for public office or publicly supporting a candidate,” the rule reads.

But the CBC said it doesn’t apply to Suzuki, though offered little explanation how his work is different from that identified in the policy.

“As David Suzuki is a freelancer who does not work exclusively for CBC, this policy does not apply to him,” Angus McKinnon, spokesman for CBC, wrote in an e-mail. “(His endorsement) is an expression of his personal opinion. It is not being expressed in his capacity as host of CBC’s The Nature of Things and does not represent the views of the corporation.”