guyser Posted December 14, 2012 Report Share Posted December 14, 2012 That's funny. When I was out of the country for a year, I came back and had no medicare until the waiting period expired. Yes well, dont get confused, its only shady playing fast and loose with facts . He is wrong of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted December 14, 2012 Report Share Posted December 14, 2012 I'm not sure what to do with this story. I guess I'd like to see a continuous study of people who'd been through the system - publish regularly and categorized by type of visit - that would be good.Longitudinal studies are expensive and hard to accomplish. They're quite rare and Harper's government continues to eliminate funding for the ones that StatsCan have been doing. I wouldn't hold my breath. Even better would be for the average person to name this survey - or some institution that regularly surveyed healthcare - immediately when asked how they measure the performance of the system. That would be really great. By name, I suppose you mean "take this survey." I agree. Again. Very expensive. There's confidentiality issues due to health information. There's lots of ethical and practical hoops that need to be hopped through to accomplish this. Nevertheless, I agree with how useful it would be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted December 14, 2012 Report Share Posted December 14, 2012 Really ? Maybe the cost itself isn't important, but increases are probably important to know as well as the reasons for increases. If you need bypass surgery, right now, it shouldn't matter to you the cost. That was my point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted December 14, 2012 Report Share Posted December 14, 2012 That's funny. When I was out of the country for a year, I came back and had no medicare until the waiting period expired. Yes, because you're not trying to scam the system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted December 15, 2012 Report Share Posted December 15, 2012 Longitudinal studies are expensive and hard to accomplish. They're quite rare and Harper's government continues to eliminate funding for the ones that StatsCan have been doing. I wouldn't hold my breath. That's not the problem. Reports like this exist today - but nobody cares. By name, I suppose you mean "take this survey."I agree. No - I mean if you went to people (as I have done) and asked them "how would you measure the performance of the Canadian healthcare system ?" they wouldn't stare at you as though you just asked how to measure the performance of leprechauns. They would say "CIHI" or somesuch. (That is the department that does this today) And everyone would watch the stats closely and would express concern if they didn't improve. Again. Very expensive. There's confidentiality issues due to health information. There's lots of ethical and practical hoops that need to be hopped through to accomplish this.Nevertheless, I agree with how useful it would be. Posh. It exists now. We need to change our culture to one that pays attention to service levels. And this means liberals above all. My fellow liberals can only defend the system, as evidenced on many threads here. We should never be satisfied with 'good enough'. There is technology and the opportunity to make things so much better than they are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted December 15, 2012 Report Share Posted December 15, 2012 If you need bypass surgery, right now, it shouldn't matter to you the cost. That was my point. Ok. Well, I guess that's true enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonlight Graham Posted December 15, 2012 Report Share Posted December 15, 2012 Unfortunately, I'm not going to give all of your questions the depth that they deserve, but I'll give you some brief answers that reflect my opinion only. BTW what province(s) are your observations referring to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted December 15, 2012 Report Share Posted December 15, 2012 ON and NB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 Another feel good story about Canadian health care and the gatekeepers who control access: An eight-year-old boy with a rare childhood disease has been refused care by at least one Canadian specialist because his mother took him to the U.S. for a treatment not approved in B.C. http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/story/2012/12/14/bc-specialistdenied.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guyser Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 Another feel good story about Canadian health care and the gatekeepers who control access: Although disturbing (moreso in the way it was reported) all Doctors in all first world countries have the right to refuse patients further access to them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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