Queer Centric school is next!

[Mr.Canada]

A group from Toronto’s gay community calling for a queer-centric high school shut the public out of a meeting to discuss the proposal Wednesday night, citing concerns over security and the comfort of the participants.

“There were concerns by community members about the media’s presence not making them free enough to speak their minds,” said Wu, adding that the curriculum in the new school would be revamped to focus on homosexual identity. “There would be huge curriculum changes in order to gear them to diversity perspectives.”

http://www.torontosun.com/2012/09/26/media-shut-out-of-toronto-gay-centric-high-school-meeting

The media was locked out of the meeting the Queer centric group had to discuss the project. I wonder what this new curriculum will look like and how it will serve queer students better then the current format. First we have a black centric school and now we will soon have a queer one. What's next I wonder?

If the public is going to pay for this school it's only right that it should be able to sit in on the meetings. How will not being with straight people help them once high school is over I wonder. Afaik there isn't any queer centric Uni's.

The blacks and the queers were the ones who always screamed the loudest for equality, equal treatment and now, as I've said before, want and are getting special treatment. Nothing equal going on here at all.

Edited September 28, 2012 by Mr.Canada

[Black Dog]

The blacks and the queers were the ones who always screamed the loudest for equality, equal treatment and now, as I've said before, want and are getting special treatment. Nothing equal going on here at all.

I do sometimes wonder what a school that was centred around a white, heterosexual view of the world would look like. Then I remember that's pretty much all the schools ever.

[Mr.Canada]

I do sometimes wonder what a school that was centred around a white, heterosexual view of the world would look like. Then I remember that's pretty much all the schools ever.

That would only be true if it had 100% white students and faculty which is no school. Nice try. Plus if anyone wanted to create a Euro centric school they'd be labeled racist. Nice double standard.

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[Michael Hardner]

The blacks and the queers were the ones who always screamed the loudest for equality, equal treatment and now, as I've said before, want and are getting special treatment.

Gee, I wonder why. I mean, they have always thrived under the previous system.

Yes, that's sarcasm.

It's because of people like you that there's a perceived need for such things. I'm against such things in theory, but people like you actually push me towards supporting the idea. Thanks for that.

[Michael Hardner]

Anyone wanted to create a Euro centric school they'd be labeled racist. Nice double standard.

The schools are already Euro-centric. In terms of racism, you are evidently blind to the possibility so you should be thanking people for pointing it out to you.

[Mr.Canada]

The schools are already Euro-centric. In terms of racism, you are evidently blind to the possibility so you should be thanking people for pointing it out to you.

No they aren't. The black centric school has only black students and all black faculty. The Queer centric school will have an all queer student body and all queer faculty. Show me a school in Toronto that has an White student body and an all white faculty and maybe I'll believe you.

Edited September 28, 2012 by Mr.Canada

[Black Dog]

That would only be true if it had 100% white students and faculty which is no school. Nice try.

No, that's not true at all. Remember, we're talking about curriculum here. By your logic, a Catholic school would not be a Catholic school if there are non-Catholic students. But we know that's not the case.

Plus if anyone wanted to create a Euro centric school they'd be labeled racist. Nice double standard.

It is a double standard. So is the power imbalance between white straight people and everyone else.

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[Mr.Canada]

No, that's not true at all. Remember, we're talking about curriculum here. By your logic, a Catholic school would not be a Catholic school if there are non-Catholic students. But we know that's not the case.

It is a double standard. So is the power imbalance between white straight people and everyone else.

Black centric and queer centric aren't dealing only with curriculum though they deal with student body and faculty as well. So we have to talk about it on the same level.

Primary Catholic schools(K-8) only admit Catholic students because of the first confession, communion etc. Catholic high schools though anyone can attend so long as they respect the Catholic religion and take the required religion courses.

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[Black Dog]

Black centric and queer centric aren't dealing only with curriculum though they deal with student body and faculty as well. So we have to talk about it on the same level.

There's nothing to suggest that faculty of a queer-centric school must be gay, not sure where that info is coming from. As for the rest, we are primarily talking about these schools'curricula. That's kind of the point.

Primary Catholic schools(K-8) only admit Catholic students because of the first confession, communion etc. Catholic high schools though anyone can attend so long as they respect the Catholic religion and take the required religion courses.

So, by your logic, Catholic high schools aren't really Catholic.

[Mr.Canada]

There's nothing to suggest that faculty of a queer-centric school must be gay, not sure where that info is coming from. As for the rest, we are primarily talking about these schools'curricula. That's kind of the point.

Ok I'll explain this one more time.

Black centric schools have all black students and all black faculty and black cirriculum.

Queer centric schools will have all queer students and all queer faculty with queer focused cirriculum.

Read the article or the many like it on the web.

[Michael Hardner]

Show me a school in Toronto that has an White student body and an all white faculty and maybe I'll believe you.

I would be hard pressed to find schools in some cities in Europe using your criteria.

God save the Queen Mr. Canada.

[Mr.Canada]

I would be hard pressed to find schools in some cities in Europe using your criteria.

God save the Queen Mr. Canada.

Great so just say I am right then that there are no Euro centric schools in the same vein that their are Black and soon to be Queer centric schools. Black and queer schools have 100% student and faculty of their respective focus.

[scribblet]

They allready have a Pink Triangle school which started in the mid 90s for Grades 9 & 10, I understand it is now up to Gr. 12. I wonder why they need another one.

http://triangleprogram.ca/

[Shady]

I wish the left stopped trying to divide people. Segregated schools is a very bad idea. Besides, we already have gay centric schools. They're called universities.

[Mr.Canada]

I wish the left stopped trying to divide people. Segregated schools is a very bad idea. Besides, we already have gay centric schools. They're called universities.

It certainly doesn't do much for acceptance does it? I thought we were all supossed to learn to live together in harmony?

[Black Dog]

I wish the left stopped trying to divide people. Segregated schools is a very bad idea.

Prove it.

[GostHacked]

Prove it.

I thought for a society that is to be all inclusive we sure are dividing and conquering by segregation in schools. It's not a left/right thing either.

Also are people going to complain if there was an all Muslim school? Some segregation good, some bad?

Edited September 28, 2012 by GostHacked

[Wild Bill]

Schools have slowly been going to Hell in a handbasket for a least 50 years anyway. It would appear that no one and nothing will stop the slide.

As I have posted before, I worked hard with my own kids and fortunately it worked out well. They get great marks and "Render unto Caesar". They don't waste their time tilting at windmills.

Meanwhile, they are incredibly well self-taught with many things that interested them, at a level far beyond what was available to them at school.

I don't see anything else a responsible parent can do, given the state of the "system" today.

[Michael Hardner]

Great so just say I am right then that there are no Euro centric schools in the same vein that their are Black and soon to be Queer centric schools. Black and queer schools have 100% student and faculty of their respective focus.

It's an apples and oranges comparison. This country is dominated by the two nations who conquered the indigenous people and formed governments here - France and England. It's a Euro centric country, although probably less than you would like.

[Black Dog]

I thought for a society that is to be all inclusive we sure are dividing and conquering by segregation in schools.

How is it "divide and conquer" exactly?

It's not a left/right thing either.

In my experience, it's usually the people who openly scoff at tolerance and inclusivity who complain the loudest about these things because they don't understand their own privilege.

Present company excepted, of course.

Some segregation good, some bad?

Sure. I think self-segregation can have positive impacts. For example, single sex schools can lead to better educational results for both boys and girls.

[Mr.Canada]

Black Dog all schools used to be segregated and the socialists fought against them to make them non segregated. Now that they are they want to segregate them again...lol.

Edit- or is it that they wanted the white students to be non segregated? Because we all know when it's all white racism happens but never happens with other races, cultures.

Edited September 28, 2012 by Mr.Canada

[BC_chick]

That would only be true if it had 100% white students and faculty which is no school. Nice try. Plus if anyone wanted to create a Euro centric school they'd be labeled racist. Nice double standard.

You obviously have no idea what Eurocentric even means. Hint - it's not about the ethnicity of the teachers.

[Mr.Canada]

You obviously have no idea what Eurocentric even means. Hint - it's not about the ethnicity of the teachers.

Black centric and queer centric means exactly that, 100% student and faculty black and queer respectively. Black and Queer schools are about the ethnicity and sexuality of the teachers. It's only fair to compare a euro centric(all white) school the same way. Otherwise your talking about 2 separate things.

[The_Squid]

If we allow religion-centric schools, then we have to allow them for other reasons.

I think that "centric" schools for whatever reason are a bad idea, but we can't allow religious schools and tell ethnic or other minorities that they can shove it if they want their own schools.

Edited September 28, 2012 by The_Squid

[The_Squid]

Black Dog all schools used to be segregated and the socialists fought against them to make them non segregated.

So let me get this correct..... what you are saying is that, in the past, all conservative-minded people were pro-segregation? It was a "leftist" or "socialist" idea to integrate schools?