MiddleClassCentrist Posted September 8, 2012 Report Posted September 8, 2012 (edited) You do realize that the medication he was taking made him Drousy and that he died of his illness sometime after the picture went viral. I am going to give you the benefit of the doubt you didn't know that. I didn't know that. Did the media report that as much as they reported someone sleeping on the job? All I remember ever hearing about was someone(UNION MEMBER ARGLE BARGLE BARGLE) falling asleep on their job . Not that they had a medical condition. effing MSM. Edited September 8, 2012 by MiddleClassCentrist Quote Ideology does not make good policy. Good policy comes from an analysis of options, comparison of options and selection of one option that works best in the current situation. This option is often a compromise between ideologies.
cybercoma Posted September 8, 2012 Report Posted September 8, 2012 I didn't know that. Did the media report that as much as they reported someone sleeping on the job? All I remember ever hearing about was someone(UNION MEMBER ARGLE BARGLE BARGLE) falling asleep on their job . Not that they had a medical condition. effing MSM. Yeah. The media really went to town with that report, chastising conservatives and Sun for ignorantly jumping to conclusions. Quote
Antiochus Posted September 8, 2012 Report Posted September 8, 2012 I recently joined this forum and threads like this make me want to leave. I'm not even Ontarian, and I feel offended by this thread. Quote
cybercoma Posted September 8, 2012 Report Posted September 8, 2012 I recently joined this forum and threads like this make me want to leave. I'm not even Ontarian, and I feel offended by this thread. You'll notice there's a handful of posters that think anyone who doesn't agree with them is "stupid" or an "idiot" and they will generalize and chastise all others for their opinions. They're largely the exception though. If you find something insulting or offensive, use the report button, as those kinds of posts are against the rules and generally not tolerated. Quote
ironstone Posted September 8, 2012 Report Posted September 8, 2012 1) How about that, the PCs ran a turncoat Liberal candidate, had Private Sector Union help, a MASSIVE FEDERAL BASE and still choked in Vaughn. 2) The Same Voters who kept a PC in for 22 years, rejected an inexperienced candidate, rejected the context in which the PC seat became available, and rejected the arrogance of the Liberal attempt to win a Majority. The Voters did not suffer fools in these by elections. Perhaps you need to recognise that. So do you believe Ontario is in better shape now compared to the pre-McGuinty days?Can you give me some specific examples of how we are better off now? Quote "Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." Thomas Sowell
ironstone Posted September 8, 2012 Report Posted September 8, 2012 That's pretty damned close to an oxymoron. http://www.cbc.ca/gfx/images/news/photos/2010/01/22/to-sleepingttc%282%29.jpg I think you hit that one out of the park. Quote "Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." Thomas Sowell
madmax Posted September 8, 2012 Report Posted September 8, 2012 I think you hit that one out of the park. Yes always good to make fun of dead people Quote
madmax Posted September 8, 2012 Report Posted September 8, 2012 So do you believe Ontario is in better shape now compared to the pre-McGuinty days?Can you give me some specific examples of how we are better off now? I think the voters were wise in KW they kept the Liberals from a Majority government. I think Hudak or the PC riding association was foolish in choosing a turncoat former Liberal Candidate in Vaughn Sorry, but both these ridings are held federally by the conservatives. Can you explain why the PCs couldn't grab Vaughn and LOST KW? Quote
madmax Posted September 8, 2012 Report Posted September 8, 2012 (edited) Yeah I didn't know that either. All Good, Most people wouldn't know. I have decided to edit on the details... He looked alot older but he was only 55. George Robitaille, 55, passed away after suffering from a stroke, reported the Amalgamated Transit Union. Robitaille was on medication for a cardio condition. He apologized to the public and to his co-workers, then took a medical leave. Kinnear noted Robitaille had a flawless record during his 29 year career; however, the public reaction over the sleeping photograph left his disheartened Edited September 8, 2012 by madmax Quote
TheNewTeddy Posted September 8, 2012 Report Posted September 8, 2012 On June 3, 1971 Bill Davis announced the cancellation of the Spadina Expressway in Toronto. Those who have ever had to use this stub highway know what a mistake that was. On that day Ontario started it's long decline. Not only did highway construction come to a near standstill, but they decided this was a great time to stop building new transit (our public transit network looks all too similar right now as it did on this date). Other changes were made as well to the way Ontario was governed. We were better off 4 years ago? Yes, as we were 8, and 12, and 16 years. We were better off in 1971 than we are today, and no one party is to blame for that, the entire government of Ontario from that time on is. Quote Feel free to contact me outside the forums. Add "TheNewTeddy" to Twitter, Facebook, or Hotmail to reach me!
TheNewTeddy Posted September 8, 2012 Report Posted September 8, 2012 All Good, Most people wouldn't know. I have decided to edit on the details... He looked alot older but he was only 55. George Robitaille, 55, passed away after suffering from a stroke, reported the Amalgamated Transit Union. Robitaille was on medication for a cardio condition. He apologized to the public and to his co-workers, then took a medical leave. Kinnear noted Robitaille had a flawless record during his 29 year career; however, the public reaction over the sleeping photograph left his disheartened How the hell do people NOT know? It was all over the news. No offence, but the only way to not know is to be willfully blind - IE, see a anti-union story and read it, but see a transit story and not read it, because you are anti-union. Quote Feel free to contact me outside the forums. Add "TheNewTeddy" to Twitter, Facebook, or Hotmail to reach me!
cybercoma Posted September 8, 2012 Report Posted September 8, 2012 All Good, Most people wouldn't know. I have decided to edit on the details... He looked alot older but he was only 55. George Robitaille, 55, passed away after suffering from a stroke, reported the Amalgamated Transit Union. Robitaille was on medication for a cardio condition. He apologized to the public and to his co-workers, then took a medical leave. Kinnear noted Robitaille had a flawless record during his 29 year career; however, the public reaction over the sleeping photograph left his disheartened You need to cite things when you cut and paste them. Quote
Boges Posted September 8, 2012 Report Posted September 8, 2012 (edited) Just because the guy died doesn't mean we can't use him as an example of how Public Servants are treated very differently than people who have to actually justify their paycheque. Yeah he died months after the incident and perhaps what killed him was a factor in him falling asleep on the job, but if that's the case then why was he on the job? The TTC can hide workers than can't do an actual job in token booths but still pay them very well. BTW back to the issue of the thread. Only the Vaughan voters are idiots. In K-Dub the Liberal candidate got complete destroyed. The Dippers put in a star candidate and was rewarded for that. McGuinty orchestrated these bi-elections to happen at the same time as the teacher issue so people wouldn't think about all the horrible things his government has done. He ultimately failed in his efforts so that's a good thing. I agree that Hudak is trying to be to much like a Liberal, he needs to move to the right, who cares if the Public Service Unions don't like it, they won't vote for him anyway. Last October his campaign didn't really offer the PCs are a solution to the Liberals. Edited September 8, 2012 by Boges Quote
madmax Posted September 8, 2012 Report Posted September 8, 2012 (edited) deleted. Edited September 8, 2012 by madmax Quote
TheNewTeddy Posted September 8, 2012 Report Posted September 8, 2012 You need to cite things when you cut and paste them. Are you questioning the validity of the story? http://www.nowtoronto.com/news/story.cfm?content=178069 http://bowjamesbow.ca/2010/11/28/on-the-passing-.shtml http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/article/897922--ttc-mourns-death-of-napping-employee http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/ttc/article/755052--wake-up-to-real-issues-ttc-sleeper-tells-public http://news.nationalpost.com/2010/11/29/ttc-employee-caught-sleeping-on-the-job-in-january-dies-of-stroke/ I can get 30 more if you are. Quote Feel free to contact me outside the forums. Add "TheNewTeddy" to Twitter, Facebook, or Hotmail to reach me!
cybercoma Posted September 8, 2012 Report Posted September 8, 2012 Are you questioning the validity of the story? http://www.nowtoronto.com/news/story.cfm?content=178069 http://bowjamesbow.ca/2010/11/28/on-the-passing-.shtml http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/article/897922--ttc-mourns-death-of-napping-employee http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/ttc/article/755052--wake-up-to-real-issues-ttc-sleeper-tells-public http://news.nationalpost.com/2010/11/29/ttc-employee-caught-sleeping-on-the-job-in-january-dies-of-stroke/ I can get 30 more if you are. No. I'm saying when you copy and paste something it's someone else's work and needs to be cited. Quote
bleeding heart Posted September 8, 2012 Report Posted September 8, 2012 Just because the guy died doesn't mean we can't use him as an example of how Public Servants are treated very differently than people who have to actually justify their paycheque. I have spent my entire life working in the private sector, various jobs, from minumum wage (and less), to relatively well-paying jobs. The amount of sheer laziness, patronage and incompetence, from low-wage worker to boss, matches anything the PS has to offer. You guys have to come up with some new myths, ones that aren't so easily discredited by other posters' own observations. I suggest starting with something that isn't plagiarized from some ideologue's Talking Points handbook. No one's buying it. Quote “There is a limit to how much we can constantly say no to the political masters in Washington. All we had was Afghanistan to wave. On every other file we were offside. Eventually we came onside on Haiti, so we got another arrow in our quiver." --Bill Graham, Former Canadian Foreign Minister, 2007
madmax Posted September 8, 2012 Report Posted September 8, 2012 No. I'm saying when you copy and paste something it's someone else's work and needs to be cited. Atu Newsletter a friend gave me... thus the reference to the ATU. Quote
madmax Posted September 8, 2012 Report Posted September 8, 2012 Just because the guy died doesn't mean we can't use him as an example of how Public Servants are treated very differently than people who have to actually justify their paycheque. Oh.. I see... In 1995, Mr. Robitaille was working for Wheel-Trans, which provides transportation for people with disabilities, when he was called a hero. Brian Mitchell, who has a rare lung and muscle disorder, was barely conscious when Mr. Robitaille found him on the floor of his home. Mr. Mitchell said that he would have died if it was not for the efforts of Mr. Robitaille. and for Cyber... http://news.nationalpost.com/2010/11/29/ttc-employee-caught-sleeping-on-the-job-in-january-dies-of-stroke/ Quote
cybercoma Posted September 8, 2012 Report Posted September 8, 2012 Atu Newsletter a friend gave me... thus the reference to the ATU. My apologies. It read like you cut and pasted it. You should at least mention where you get something from when it's not your writing. Quote
Boges Posted September 8, 2012 Report Posted September 8, 2012 Oh.. I see... In 1995, Mr. Robitaille was working for Wheel-Trans, which provides transportation for people with disabilities, when he was called a hero. Brian Mitchell, who has a rare lung and muscle disorder, was barely conscious when Mr. Robitaille found him on the floor of his home. Mr. Mitchell said that he would have died if it was not for the efforts of Mr. Robitaille. and for Cyber... http://news.nationalpost.com/2010/11/29/ttc-employee-caught-sleeping-on-the-job-in-january-dies-of-stroke/ I'm familiar with that story about him being a hero. Doesn't change the fact he fell asleep on the job and didn't get punished by his employer. Quote
WWWTT Posted September 9, 2012 Report Posted September 9, 2012 I'm familiar with that story about him being a hero. Doesn't change the fact he fell asleep on the job and didn't get punished by his employer. It was the hard work of union members that helped the pc lose in K-W! It was the lazy butts of the pc that were no match. Oh but now you have a picture of a weakened poor sick individual and somehow you now think we all forgotten about why the pc lost(laziness,incompetence) You think voters are going to vote for a party that can't put together a campaign,let alone run a province? WWWTT Quote Maple Leaf Web is now worth $720.00! Down over $1,500 in less than one year! Total fail of the moderation on this site! That reminds me, never ask Greg to be a business partner! NEVER!
WWWTT Posted September 9, 2012 Report Posted September 9, 2012 Maybe they are stupid enuf to answer "Never" Usually when a party works hard an wins the trust they are elected! What do you want?You want the voters to ignore a smart choice? Now thats just dumb. WWWTT Quote Maple Leaf Web is now worth $720.00! Down over $1,500 in less than one year! Total fail of the moderation on this site! That reminds me, never ask Greg to be a business partner! NEVER!
ironstone Posted September 9, 2012 Report Posted September 9, 2012 I think the voters were wise in KW they kept the Liberals from a Majority government. I think Hudak or the PC riding association was foolish in choosing a turncoat former Liberal Candidate in Vaughn Sorry, but both these ridings are held federally by the conservatives. Can you explain why the PCs couldn't grab Vaughn and LOST KW? I don't think I can come up with a satisfactory answer to that to be honest.Today people have more information than ever before right at their fingertips but they just don't seem to have any concern for the big issues,like Ontario's massive debt.The public servants are crying about losing their collective bargaining rights but at the end of the day,they are paid very well and have perks most of us can't even dream of in the private sector.Too many governments,of all stripes are just spending way too much to be sustainable,and yet a large segment of the population seems totally unconcerned.I think Hudak is ok but that's not enough apparently.Andrea Horwath supports much of the same idiotic policies that the Liberals to,like overspending,windmills and solar.She is a union lapdog as well. I think it's time for Hudak to go. Quote "Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." Thomas Sowell
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