waldo Posted September 2, 2012 Report Posted September 2, 2012 You don't think it was because Eastwood was a train wreck and Romney didn't say anything? I'm certain if Romney actually said anything worth talking about, they would have. You're free to do so too, but, of course, you can't. the Romney campaign just released a 'greatest hits from the convention' video... Eastwood is MIA! Is there a problem? Quote
Shady Posted September 2, 2012 Author Report Posted September 2, 2012 This has got to suck heading into a convention... We’re Not Better Off Now Democratic Gov. Martin O’Malley of Maryland, who is considered a possible contender for president in 2016, bucked other Obama surrogates on Sunday, saying that the country was not better off now than it was four years ago. NJ He's just stating the obvious, but I'm sure he's going to get a talking to by the boss in the next day or two. Quote
punked Posted September 2, 2012 Report Posted September 2, 2012 This has got to suck heading into a convention... He's just stating the obvious, but I'm sure he's going to get a talking to by the boss in the next day or two. Wasn't the US losing 900,000 a month 4 years ago? Don't let facts get in your way though. Quote
Shady Posted September 2, 2012 Author Report Posted September 2, 2012 (Then = when Obama took office) •Unemployment: 7.8% then, 8.3% now •Median income: $54,983 then, $50,964 now •Gas prices: $1.85 per gallon then, $3.78 now •National debt: $10.6 trillion then, $15.9 trillion now Quote
BubberMiley Posted September 2, 2012 Report Posted September 2, 2012 Bush left the economy in a shambles and many people believed we were on the verge of a greater depression than the Great Depression. Things have improved dramatically since then in both jobs and wealth. My portfolio has improved tremendously since the Dow Jones crashed to the low 8000s under Bush. Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
Shady Posted September 2, 2012 Author Report Posted September 2, 2012 Bush left the economy in a shambles and many people believed we were on the verge of a greater depression than the Great Depression. Things have improved dramatically since then in both jobs and wealth. My portfolio has improved tremendously since the Dow Jones crashed to the low 8000s under Bush. That's the only argument he has to make to the American voters. "Things could have been worse" which is a tough sell in politics. However, there are several inaccuracies in your statement. Especially the one about improved wealth. A median income going from %54000 dollars to $50000 dollars isn't any kind of improvement. Unless you're using some kind of new math. Either is an unemployment rate going from 7.8% to 8.3%, with a labour participation rate at a 30 year low. If the labour participation rate was the same now as it was in '08, the unemployment rate would be 11%. Hope n change! Quote
BubberMiley Posted September 2, 2012 Report Posted September 2, 2012 My portfolio is about double. It's true that middle class incomes are stagnant, however. But that's because of the anti-union policies of the right. Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
punked Posted September 2, 2012 Report Posted September 2, 2012 That's the only argument he has to make to the American voters. "Things could have been worse" which is a tough sell in politics. However, there are several inaccuracies in your statement. Especially the one about improved wealth. A median income going from %54000 dollars to $50000 dollars isn't any kind of improvement. Yah its not like half of America lost half of their net worth because of some huge housing bubble or anything right? No wait that is what happened. Quote
sharkman Posted September 2, 2012 Report Posted September 2, 2012 That's the only argument he has to make to the American voters. "Things could have been worse" which is a tough sell in politics. However, there are several inaccuracies in your statement. Especially the one about improved wealth. A median income going from %54000 dollars to $50000 dollars isn't any kind of improvement. Unless you're using some kind of new math. Either is an unemployment rate going from 7.8% to 8.3%, with a labour participation rate at a 30 year low. If the labour participation rate was the same now as it was in '08, the unemployment rate would be 11%. Hope n change! So 3% have just given up looking for work and are no longer receiving anything? That's tragic and it's in the millions. It's a good thing we had a great PM during these times, we did much better than the US and Europe. Quote
BubberMiley Posted September 2, 2012 Report Posted September 2, 2012 It's a good thing we had a great PM during these times, we did much better than the US and Europe. Yes, the banking regulations set up by the Liberals helped, but we're still in a perilous real estate bubble. Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
Shady Posted September 2, 2012 Author Report Posted September 2, 2012 So 3% have just given up looking for work and are no longer receiving anything? That's tragic and it's in the millions. It's a good thing we had a great PM during these times, we did much better than the US and Europe. Yep. A person is counted in the labor force if they have a job, or looked for one in the past four weeks. Only people that are actively looking for work are considered unemployed. So the current unemployment rate doesn't count people that have gotten frustrated, and stopped looking. That's one of the main reasons the current labour force is the size it was in the early 1980s, despite the fact that the population of the country is much much greater now than it was then. I agree. Harper is head and shoulders above Obama. When Romney wins election, we'll have a real economic partner in the White House, which will be important in regards to trade, but especially energy policy. Hopefully America's energy policy will be similar to ours. Quote
Shady Posted September 2, 2012 Author Report Posted September 2, 2012 Yes, the banking regulations set up by the Liberals helped, but we're still in a perilous real estate bubble. I agree. I give the Liberals a lot of credit. They didn't pander the way Democrats did, in the form of lowering mortgage standards as a way to appeal to lower income voters. As a result, we didn't have to worry about banks sitting on a mountain of toxic mortgages. I also give Liberals a lot of credit for significant cuts to government, which amounted to almost 15% across the board. They were Tea Party before Tea Party even existed. The Tea Party gets called extreme for wanting cuts in government spending not even approaching what the Liberals did. It's funny how things have changed. Quote
sharkman Posted September 3, 2012 Report Posted September 3, 2012 Yes, the banking regulations set up by the Liberals helped, but we're still in a perilous real estate bubble. Perilous? Try the recession of the early 80's for perilous, this is a normal adjustment so far. You would rather have this than what Europe is suffering through, wouldn't you? Quote
WWWTT Posted September 3, 2012 Report Posted September 3, 2012 Yep that would its official name. Don't worry though Shady we will start a new thread with out the Spam and the right title when it starts. No one expects you to get anything related to politics right. You try and you try but it seems you just can never get it right. Kind of harsh there punked. WWWTT Quote Maple Leaf Web is now worth $720.00! Down over $1,500 in less than one year! Total fail of the moderation on this site! That reminds me, never ask Greg to be a business partner! NEVER!
WWWTT Posted September 3, 2012 Report Posted September 3, 2012 Not sure what a "healthy" list means. Unless by healthy you mean completely boring and uninteresting nobody's. Healthy lists to me include tuna, yogurt, oatmeal and almonds. Good for you Shady! WWWTT Quote Maple Leaf Web is now worth $720.00! Down over $1,500 in less than one year! Total fail of the moderation on this site! That reminds me, never ask Greg to be a business partner! NEVER!
BubberMiley Posted September 3, 2012 Report Posted September 3, 2012 Perilous? Try the recession of the early 80's for perilous, this is a normal adjustment so far. I'm not talking so far. I'm talking about the correction still to come. Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
sharkman Posted September 3, 2012 Report Posted September 3, 2012 The correction still to come? What do you suspect is coming? Quote
bud Posted September 5, 2012 Report Posted September 5, 2012 michelle obama's speech was okay, but it was a typical scripted blah blah. it just wasn't an improvised conversation with a chair. Quote http://whoprofits.org/
kimmy Posted September 5, 2012 Report Posted September 5, 2012 michelle obama's speech was okay, but it was a typical scripted blah blah. it just wasn't an improvised conversation with a chair. The word "epic" kept coming to mind while I was watching her speech. I thought Mayor Castro's speech was pretty good too, but Mrs O blew the ceiling off the arena. Nothing against rambling seniors talking to chairs, of course. -k Quote (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ Friendly forum facilitator! ┬──┬◡ﾉ(° -°ﾉ)
Smallc Posted September 5, 2012 Report Posted September 5, 2012 The word "epic" kept coming to mind while I was watching her speech. I thought Mayor Castro's speech was pretty good too, but Mrs O blew the ceiling off the arena. As I'm watching it now on tv (Youtube and Airplay), I can't help but think of what an evil socialist she is..... I would say this to the Romneys - that is the way to make a speech. Humanizing, connecting, and from the heart. Alive, and with conviction. If Clinton and Obama do ass well, it's going to make the RNC look pretty pathetic. Quote
cybercoma Posted September 5, 2012 Report Posted September 5, 2012 A commentator on Twitter (I can't remember which journalist it was, at the moment) said last night "I really wish people would stop saying this is the best speech given by a First Lady. This is the best speech given by anybody in the last 10 years." I didn't see it, so I can't really comment on the speech. Quote
Smallc Posted September 5, 2012 Report Posted September 5, 2012 I didn't see it, so I can't really comment on the speech. Watch it on Youtube. It's worth it. Quote
cybercoma Posted September 5, 2012 Report Posted September 5, 2012 Watch it on Youtube. It's worth it. Just watched it. It's like night and day from the RNC. The GOP should be embarrassed. Quote
JerrySeinfeld Posted September 5, 2012 Report Posted September 5, 2012 (edited) here it is Ann Romney knocked it out of the park. Way better. I liked how MO copied much of the sentiment. Imitation is the highest form of flattery. Edited September 5, 2012 by JerrySeinfeld Quote
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