Democrat National Convention 2012

[punked]

Ann Romney knocked it out of the park. Way better. I liked how MO copied much of the sentiment. Imitation is the highest form of flattery.

You are a crazy man seriously. Ann Romney speech was the best given at the RNC and the really good for Ann Romney, but this speech was on a different level it would be like comparing a High School basketball player who get 60 points a game with Kobe Bryant. Yep that high schooler is amazing for a high schooler but he is no Kobe.

As for the copying if you think a first lady telling her story is somehow copying then Ann Romney copied Michelle from 2008. Ouch that would hurt if you had any sense of reasoning but don't so it went over your head again.

Edited September 5, 2012 by punked

[Smallc]

Just watched it. It's like night and day from the RNC. The GOP should be embarrassed.

No kidding. I also couldn't help but notice something during the speech. The Democratic party really does seem to be the party of American (so many different faces from different ethnic and cultural origins in the crowd, and so many women. The GOP is the party of old white guys.

[sharkman]

Ann Romney knocked it out of the park. Way better. I liked how MO copied much of the sentiment. Imitation is the highest form of flattery.

I'm not sure about that as I didn't see the entire speech of either of them. But MO was irritating at times. Did you notice how she started stuttering when making a point? And the over-the-top emotions at times as if she was reporting the death of someone. Hey, the crowd ate it up, don't get me wrong. But she was forcing it as if talking over a dissenter.

That and the way she talked about Obama as if introducing him to the US for the first time was somewhat odd. I know they can't say much about his dismal record thus far so I guess I give her a pass on that one.

[JerrySeinfeld]

I'm not sure about that as I didn't see the entire speech of either of them. But MO was irritating at times. Did you notice how she started stuttering when making a point? And the over-the-top emotions at times as if she was reporting the death of someone. Hey, the crowd ate it up, don't get me wrong. But she was forcing it as if talking over a dissenter.

That and the way she talked about Obama as if introducing him to the US for the first time was somewhat odd. I know they can't say much about his dismal record thus far so I guess I give her a pass on that one.

Yep - had someone from another planet watched the Dem speeches so far, he would have thought Mitt Romney had been President for the past four years and Obama was some newcomer to the scene ready to change things for the better.

[Smallc]

[Argus]

I admit to not having watched much, but I was clicking channels when Massachusetts governor Deval Patrick gave a pretty good rabble rousing speech. Most political speeches put me to sleep but this guy was pretty good.

[Argus]

No kidding. I also couldn't help but notice something during the speech. The Democratic party really does seem to be the party of American (so many different faces from different ethnic and cultural origins in the crowd, and so many women. The GOP is the party of old white guys.

Andrew Coyne in today's Globe...

Eventually it hits you. Perhaps it’s the sign language interpreters to one side of every podium. Maybe it’s the women in pantsuits, or the “recovery wellness rooms,” or the Service Employees International Union booth, but somewhere between the LGBT caucus and the Planned Parenthood rally you realize: we are among the Democrats now.

The Tampa Republicans may not have been all that diverse, but they were unified. There really isn’t much in the way of wings, let alone “caucuses,” in today’s GOP. The only real division is between the establishment and the base: the former wants to be in government, the latter wants to abolish it. By contrast, the Democrats are a riot of competing interests and ideologies, a tent so big it is in constant danger of collapse.

[waldo]

Ann Romney knocked it out of the park. Way better. I liked how MO copied much of the sentiment. Imitation is the highest form of flattery.

Jerry, this is the DNC Convention thread... if you'd like to extol the virtues of Marie (I LOVE YOU WOMEN) Antoinette, there's a different thread for that! Oh wait, let me help you out:

[JerrySeinfeld]

Jerry, this is the DNC Convention thread... if you'd like to extol the virtues of Marie (I LOVE YOU WOMEN) Antoinette, there's a different thread for that! Oh wait, let me help you out:

A woman with MS, cancer survivor, mother of five and wife of a man who built Staples, Sealy, Sports Authority and turned around a failing Olympics is "Marie Antoinette"?

I usually don't like to resort to namecalling, but, wow - you really are a commie, aren't you?

Edited September 5, 2012 by JerrySeinfeld

[punked]

Politicalwire reports.

A Smart Politics review finds that Michelle Obama's 2012 speech to the Democratic convention was written at the highest ever grade level for spouses of presidential candidates and seven grade levels above Ann Romney's Republican convention remarks, as measured by the Flesch-Kincaid readability test.

Now it is just a fact Obama's speech was at a higher grade level. The speech was tweeted about more THEN THE ENTIRE RNC. Ouch Jerry.

Edited September 5, 2012 by punked

[waldo]

A mother and wife of a man who built Staples, Sealy, Sports Authority and turned around a failing Olympics is "Marie Antoinette"?

I usually don't like to resort to namecalling, but, wow - you really are a commie, aren't you?

"the man"? Hey now... if he 'built' those... would you like me to follow your prattle and spew off the names of the multitude of companies "the man", 'demolished'? We could have some real fun here, hey? Oh wait... you would simply fall back to your comfort blankee and beak-off along the lines of, 'there is always risk involved'!

[cybercoma]

Politicalwire reports.

Now it is just a fact Obama's speech was at a higher grade level. The speech was tweeted about more THEN THE ENTIRE RNC. Ouch Jerry.

I guess we know who the GOP are writing their speeches for now and you can see it at work with the people on the forum that eat it up. Intelligent conservatives like Argus and Smallc give credit where credit is due, while those that are seven grade levels below them take the bait hook, line, and sinker.

[Smallc]

I'm not a conservative....I mean, in Canada, that's the party I support right now, but...

Edited September 5, 2012 by Smallc

[punked]

I'm not a conservative....I mean, in Canada, that's the party I support right now, but...

You have leaned more in that direction though the last few years.

[Smallc]

You have leaned more in that direction though the last few years.

On some things I do, sure....but, on social issues, and matters of social justice, definitely not.

That's why I was a Liberal. I hope I can be again some day.

Edited September 5, 2012 by Smallc

[BC_chick]

Andrew Coyne in today's Globe...

Eventually it hits you. Perhaps it’s the sign language interpreters to one side of every podium. Maybe it’s the women in pantsuits, or the “recovery wellness rooms,” or the Service Employees International Union booth, but somewhere between the LGBT caucus and the Planned Parenthood rally you realize: we are among the Democrats now.

The Tampa Republicans may not have been all that diverse, but they were unified. There really isn’t much in the way of wings, let alone “caucuses,” in today’s GOP. The only real division is between the establishment and the base: the former wants to be in government, the latter wants to abolish it. By contrast, the Democrats are a riot of competing interests and ideologies, a tent so big it is in constant danger of collapse.

Republicans are not unified. You have a lot of fiscal conservatives that find the social conservative base to be a hindrance to their vision of government. They're unable to find unity and they're only dealing with two factions.

Also, conservatism is not very inclusive to begin with; you just have to look at immigration and SSM platforms to see that. Liberalism OTOH (ideally) embraces diversity so even though there may be a lot more differing interests, there is at least an underlying attempt to respect each other.

[BC_chick]

I was never a big MO fan but I thought her speech was amazing. I listened to it again this morning and it was even better the second time around. Everything she had to say about hard work and giving back was very inspiring. I think I'll bookmark it to watch when I'm feeling down.

Historically, moving speeches like "The Whisper of Aids" and "I have a Dream" reached out to a broad spectrum of people whereas MO's speech was unfortunately overshadowed by the politics of her husband. If she wasn't so disliked on a personal level I think almost everyone would agree that the message itself was terrific.

I bet a lot of the naysayers would even agree if it were Ann Romney who gave that speech verbatim.

[JerrySeinfeld]

I was never a big MO fan but I thought her speech was amazing. I listened to it again this morning and it was even better the second time around. Everything she had to say about hard work and giving back was very inspiring. I think I'll bookmark it to watch when I'm feeling down.

Historically, moving speeches like "The Whisper of Aids" and "I have a Dream" reached out to a broad spectrum of people whereas MO's speech was unfortunately overshadowed by the politics of her husband. If she wasn't so disliked on a personal level I think almost everyone would agree that the message itself was terrific.

I bet a lot of the naysayers would even agree if it were Ann Romney who gave that speech verbatim.

Ann Romney is a likeable person. Michelle Obama is a hardass ideologue who is doing Barack with a strap on bi-weekly, guaranteed.

Then they lay in bed, smoking a cigarette, looking at the ceiling and say to each other "someday, we're gone change this country into what Karl Marx dream so many years ago"

[blueblood]

Ann Romney is a likeable person. Michelle Obama is a hardass ideologue who is doing Barack with a strap on bi-weekly, guaranteed.

Then they lay in bed, smoking a cigarette, looking at the ceiling and say to each other "someday, we're gone change this country into what Karl Marx dream so many years ago"

[BC_chick]

Ann Romney is a likeable person. Michelle Obama is a hardass ideologue who is doing Barack with a strap on bi-weekly, guaranteed.

Well you pretty much are proving my point earlier:

MO's speech was unfortunately overshadowed by the politics of her husband. If she wasn't so disliked on a personal level I think almost everyone would agree that the message itself was terrific.

I bet a lot of the naysayers would even agree if it were Ann Romney who gave that speech verbatim.

[punked]

The only bad part about MO's speech is it was so good a lot of people are ignoring Julián Castro speech which was also better then anything at the RNC. That guys is rising star for sure, here is hoping he doesn't stumble as so many rising stars do. He is just great to.

[bud]

Ann Romney is a likeable person. Michelle Obama is a hardass ideologue who is doing Barack with a strap on bi-weekly, guaranteed.

Then they lay in bed, smoking a cigarette, looking at the ceiling and say to each other "someday, we're gone change this country into what Karl Marx dream so many years ago"

you're embarrassing yourself.

First lady Michelle Obama received mostly rave reviews from independent political commentators and partisans on the left after her speech Tuesday at the Democratic National Convention — but perhaps most surprising was that her remarks even prompted a few conservatives to write some kind words about the first lady.

“I hate to admit it, but Michelle Obama hit it a long way tonight, in my opinion. And overall, I fear that the Dems had a good night,” wrote Paul Mirengoff at Power Line.

“I thought as a political speech it was excellent and did nearly everything she needed it to do. She was more comfortable and convincingly passionate than Ann Romney and made not only a defense of her husband the man … but also of her husband’s policies,” Jonah Goldberg wrote in National Review.

politico

here is wallace from foxnews accepting what a great speech it was.

[JerrySeinfeld]

"the man"? Hey now... if he 'built' those... would you like me to follow your prattle and spew off the names of the multitude of companies "the man", 'demolished'? We could have some real fun here, hey? Oh wait... you would simply fall back to your comfort blankee and beak-off along the lines of, 'there is always risk involved'!

Please do. Let's talk about Mitt R

Edited September 5, 2012 by JerrySeinfeld

[JerrySeinfeld]

"the man"? Hey now... if he 'built' those... would you like me to follow your prattle and spew off the names of the multitude of companies "the man", 'demolished'? We could have some real fun here, hey? Oh wait... you would simply fall back to your comfort blankee and beak-off along the lines of, 'there is always risk involved'!

You know what's funny. Actually, not funny, sa. Actually not sad, sort of creepy?

I'm not sure whats worse, that you would actually buy into the Democrat talking points hook line and sinker, or that you have such a warped view of how capitalism actually works, that you trust a man who's never built or run anything in his life over a man who's made creation, innovation, entrepreneurship and fixing problems his life's work.

Actually, there's a third possibly, or, knowing what I've heard you say so far, probability: That you would actually intentionally destroy the character and reputation of a man who has given $25 million to charity. WHo started a foundation to ensure the top 25% of high school kids in Massachussetts get a four year college scholarship. WHo start companies that now employ more than 100,000 people. Who gives his time to those in need and reaches out to the community. Who turned around a failed, bankrupt Olympics into a great success.

Yes, I'm certain that a guy who has lived his life this way wants to do what you say: destroy and kill economic growth.

Mitt Romney made $20 million dollars last year. I'm sure that's his plan. To stop hanging around his La Jolla beach house, take a 98% pay cut an long, gruelling hours so that he can systematically dismantle and destroy companies and the middle class.

It's sad, really, that you would view the world in such a warped way. That you actually believe Obama killed 3,000 Auto dealers out of the goodness of his heart, but a man who has created more jobs in his sleep than Obama has in his entire life is out to kill jobs?

Man, you be freakin' delusional.

So you wanna have a talk about track record? BRING IT ON. I don't only hope you do.

I dare you. I freaking DARE you to have a debate with me about the two track records. I can WAIT to have this conversation.

You started it, so let's go "Wally the commie entrepreneurship hater"

You know how I know you have no money? Because nobody who has ever made anything of themselves would talk about Mitt Romney's accomplishments with such disdain. You don't have a freaking cent to your name. You are angry at success, and you're sitting in your mommies basement waiting for BHO or Tommy Mulcair to sign your dependency cheque so you can afford to go to Starbucks and talk about how much smarter you are than people who actually build companies and wealth.

Or wait - I know - you're a union guy. One of those union guys who thinks it's someone else's job to give you a job. AHA! lol

Edited September 5, 2012 by JerrySeinfeld

[Shady]

Omg! Did anyone else just see the convention delegates boo God and Jerusalem? Yikes!