Republican National Convention 2012 coverage

The_Squid · August 31, 2012

Ya I've said this before.

Some would say that Obama is still too popular so we will throw whoever we got against him so he is no winning by acclimation.And keep our better candidates till 2016.

But its not about Obama being that good.Its about the republican party slowly dying out.

When a real alternative party takes root in the US.Kiss the republicans and the tea party goodbye.

WWWTT

There will be no 3rd party. That's the problem with a 2 party system that is so entrenched, particularly now that a very few with huge dollars can simply keep it afloat. These are the two parties in the USA, as far into the future as one can see.

And the real insidious part is the republicans are attempting (and succeeding) in making it more difficult for Democrats to be elected with new voter suppression legislation in Republican controlled states.

WWWTT · August 31, 2012

There will be no 3rd party. That's the problem with a 2 party system that is so entrenched, particularly now that a very few with huge dollars can simply keep it afloat. These are the two parties in the USA, as far into the future as one can see.

And the real insidious part is the republicans are attempting (and succeeding) in making it more difficult for Democrats to be elected with new voter suppression legislation in Republican controlled states.

I never suggested that there ever would be a multi party system in existence there since they are not a parliament.

What I suggested was that when a new likeable alternative comes around,the republicans are gone.

But who knows,perhaps the smoke and mirror propaganda machine in the US can pull some magic.

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bud · August 31, 2012

uhm, back to clint eastwood:

so the rambling old man believes romney shouldn't be a president?

Shady · August 31, 2012

Mitt's story about his dad leaving a rose on his mom's bedside table was pretty cool, but also heartbreaking.

punked · August 31, 2012

Mitt's story about his dad leaving a rose on his mom's bedside table was pretty cool, but also heartbreaking.

Yet it has nothing to do with this election and I really don't care about it. Go figure.

bud · August 31, 2012

Mitt's story about his dad leaving a rose on his mom's bedside table was pretty cool, but also heartbreaking.

sorry we missed it. american woman and i were watching honey booboo picking up cheetos off the ground.

Shady · August 31, 2012

Yet it has nothing to do with this election and I really don't care about it. Go figure.

It has to do with the convention, which is what this thread is about.

Moonlight Graham · August 31, 2012

I never suggested that there ever would be a multi party system in existence there since they are not a parliament.

What I suggested was that when a new likeable alternative comes around,the republicans are gone.

But who knows,perhaps the smoke and mirror propaganda machine in the US can pull some magic.

WWWTT

What does having a parliament have anything to do with it? Parliament governments must keep the confidence of the legislature, and the executive (PM) in a parliamentary system comes from the parliamentary legislature itself. Therefore the stakes are much higher in a parliament legistlature than from a legislature in a presidential system of government where the legislature and executive are not fused. Therefore, I would it think that more than 2 parties would be easier to maintain in a presidential system than a parliamentary system.

September 1, 2012

And what it all boils down to:

Reuters/Ipsos Poll: Romney Takes Small Lead Over Obama With Convention 'Bounce'

And as much as I think he’s an idiot:

"I think people should start to practice the words 'President Romney.'

Filmmaker Michael Moore joined HuffPost Live Thursday and predicted that the influence of money in politics would lift Mitt Romney to victory over President Barack Obama in November.
"Mitt Romney is going to raise more money than Barack Obama. That should guarantee his victory," Moore told host Josh Zepps. "I think people should start to practice the words 'President Romney.' To assume that the other side are just a bunch of ignoramuses who are supported by people who believe that Adam and Eve rode on dinosaurs 6,000 years ago is to completely misjudge the opposition."

Moore said he believes that if the election were conducted "American Idol"-style, and Americans were able to vote from their couches, Obama "would win hands down."

"That's not what's gonna happen," he told Zepps. "This election's going to be decided on who gets out the most people that day. Who's up at four in the morning, making sure that dozens, hundreds, thousands of people in their communities are getting out to vote. And the Republican machine that is set up and the money behind it to guarantee [what] is really the only important thing -- turnout on that day -- that's what looks pretty scary here."

At the end of the day there is still plenty of time, the polling is within the margin of error (And I don’t really jump up and down, nor wring my hands over polling results until the last week) and the race is just to close to call at the moment………We’ll see what type of bounce Obama gets from the Democratic convention next week……….

But if one has to predict today, I’ll go with:

Republican congress +/- a few seats as current

A very slim Republican take-over of the Senate (I’d have given them closer to 60 prior to Akin)

And Robamney eking out a close win for POTUS, with the loser claiming voter fraud.

Smallc · September 1, 2012

Obama will eat Romney's lunch. After last night's speech non performance by Romney, that's almost certain. Just wait for the debates.

Shady · September 1, 2012

Obama will eat Romney's lunch.

:lol:

He had trouble with John McCain, who's like a hundred years old! :lol:

Shady · September 1, 2012

Anyways, Survey USA has a new poll reflecting some of the results of the convention. Romney did really well among Florida voters. Clint Eastwood did well too, suprisingly.

In Florida: Early 1st Reaction to Speeches at Republican Convention, Movement Towards Romney Among Persuadables

Among Florida voters to Eastwood’s speech was 49% positive to only 24% negative. The overall split is positive in almost all demos except Democrats (30/45) and liberals (26/58). Majorities of independents (51/26), seniors (54/20), men (54/24) approved of it, but the biggest positive response came from Hispanics, 62/21 — even better than Republicans (58/12). Even women (44/25) and black voters (43/37) liked Eastwood’s extemporaneous riff on President Obama.

Survey USA

punked · September 1, 2012

He had trouble with John McCain, who's like a hundred years old!

This is an example of how you have lost touch with reality. Obama beat MaCain by almost 100 electoral votes. It isn't like bush who won one election By 200 votes in 1 state and 5000 votes in 1 state the second time.

Now let me say this Romney is not half the politician or man John McCain was and McCain wasn't very good. Soooooooooooooooo.

Shady · September 1, 2012

This is an example of how you have lost touch with reality. Obama beat MaCain by almost 100 electoral votes.

Not because of his debates. He's actually a quite mediocre debater.

punked · September 1, 2012

Anyways, Survey USA has a new poll reflecting some of the results of the convention. Romney did really well among Florida voters. Clint Eastwood did well too, suprisingly.

Yep it couldn't be that people who watch the Conventions are already inclined to support republicans anyway at all. It isnt like more people and real Indies were watching here comes honey boo boo or football or anything. This is what we call a sampling error shady and you have no clue how dumb you look when say otherwise. On that night people voted with their remotes.

punked · September 1, 2012

Not because of his debates. He's actually a quite mediocre debater.

McCain killed Romney in the debates in 2008 Shady. Again reality escapes you.

Shady · September 1, 2012

Yep it couldn't be that people who watch the Conventions are already inclined to support republicans anyway at all.

The sample breakdown of the poll is provided by Survey USA. Obviously you didn't bother reading it.

It isnt like more people and real Indies were watching here comes honey boo boo or football or anything.

The poll is of registered Florida voters, which almost 70% watched the convention Thursday night.

This is what we call a sampling error shady and you have no clue how dumb you look when say otherwise. On that night people voted with their remotes.

No sampling error. You didn't even bother to look at the data. That fact is obvious. You have no clue how dumb you look when you post about things you haven't bothered looking into. :rolleyes:

punked · September 1, 2012

The sample breakdown of the poll is provided by Survey USA. Obviously you didn't bother reading it.

The poll is of registered Florida voters, which almost 70% watched the convention Thursday night.

No sampling error. You didn't even bother to look at the data. That fact is obvious. You have no clue how dumb you look when you post about things you haven't bothered looking into.

39 million people watched the last night of the convention. You are telling me 15 million or 40 percent of them were from Florida that isn't a good thing either and sounds unbelievable. Considering only 60 percent of them vote. Should throw up same red flags for you Shady.

punked · September 1, 2012

Sorry double post

Edited September 1, 2012 by punked

punked · September 1, 2012

Correction after looking up the numbers only 30 million people watched on the last night of the convention. Meaning half of them would be from Florida. That doesn't sound like a bad poll at all. It just means that NO ONE watched from ANY other state. Why is that good for Romney that NO swing state besides Florida watched? I have no clue.

Face it Shady. What you are saying either makes no sense at all and is a bad poll OR no one in Any state besides Florida watched the Convention meaning this thing is over because Romney not only needs to win Flordia, he needs to win Ohio, Virgina, Wisconsin, and some either Midwest states or Western states. There is no shinning that turd.

Edited September 1, 2012 by punked

cybercoma · September 1, 2012

He had trouble with John McCain, who's like a hundred years old!

I know, right!? Cuz like the guy's age is so germane to his debating skills. LOLz!

Wilber · September 1, 2012

Got a kick out of Colbert last night interviewing Eastwood's chair.

-TSS- · September 1, 2012

That was a bit of news to me that the convention approved of Romney's choice of Ryan as a VP-candidate. Previously I thought the nominee can pick anyone he likes but apparently the convention must agree. Well,that must be just a formality. On the other hand, didn't Nixon have hard time to have Spiro Agnew acepted as his running-mate?

punked · September 1, 2012

That was a bit of news to me that the convention approved of Romney's choice of Ryan as a VP-candidate. Previously I thought the nominee can pick anyone he likes but apparently the convention must agree. Well,that must be just a formality. On the other hand, didn't Nixon have hard time to have Spiro Agnew acepted as his running-mate?

See in the Republican convention rules don't matter anyway. You need according to the rules a plurality of delegates from 5 states/territories to place a name in nomination, Ron Paul actually got 6 but because Romney's people were running the convention they just ignored that.

September 1, 2012

Obama will eat Romney's lunch. After last night's speech non performance by Romney, that's almost certain. Just wait for the debates.

A few weeks prior (let alone a few months) to our last federal election, did you think the CPC would win a majority? (I’m a member of the party and didn’t)

Or that the NDP would become the Official Opposition?