Newfoundlander Posted August 22, 2012 Report Posted August 22, 2012 The liberals lead for a period of 2 months in 2009 that is it. That is quite different then the NDP now although a Liberal game charger of leader might change that. I don't see how though the NDP and the Cons have moved from their left and right polls and have eaten the Liberals lunch as Conservative and Labour parties have done in the last 50 years in every western nation. Canada I think was the last one to get rid of their brokerage party but the history of all democracies is not a good thing for the Liberals no matter how much we pretend they aren't dying off across our country as they have across the world. They were tied or led the CPC from basically February 2009 till September 2009, which is longer then what the NDP have done. They also led in a few polls in February 2010. Quote
punked Posted August 22, 2012 Report Posted August 22, 2012 They were tied or led the CPC from basically February 2009 till September 2009, which is longer then what the NDP have done. They also led in a few polls in February 2010. Nope they lead March through April then led in 2 polls after that. That is very different then the NDP now they didn't even have a leader when they led for that 2 month period. Iggy wasn't nominated until May when the polls crashed and they lost their lead. Quote
Boges Posted August 22, 2012 Report Posted August 22, 2012 Well the Liberals also had to deal with a Jack Layton led NDP. The NDP has to compete with a Liberal party led by a Colubus Monkey. Quote
TheNewTeddy Posted August 22, 2012 Report Posted August 22, 2012 Ted, those conservatives that respected Layton respected the man, NOT his politics! It is a significant point that most NDP supporters seem incapable of making that distinction. That's my point. After Layton died, Conservative after Conservative came out to respect the man. Then Stockwell Day came out and basically said "How can you respect a man who was so socialist?" Quote Feel free to contact me outside the forums. Add "TheNewTeddy" to Twitter, Facebook, or Hotmail to reach me!
guyser Posted August 22, 2012 Report Posted August 22, 2012 One year and they will not say what killed him, what are they hiding? Was it cancer or was it something else? Hiding nothing. He died of cancer. They just arent sayiong which one, not that it matters to anyone. Newspapers are a source of information ....heard of them? Quote
Newfoundlander Posted August 22, 2012 Report Posted August 22, 2012 Nope they lead March through April then led in 2 polls after that. That is very different then the NDP now they didn't even have a leader when they led for that 2 month period. Iggy wasn't nominated until May when the polls crashed and they lost their lead. The polls listed here must be wrong then, that damn Wikipedia. Quote
punked Posted August 22, 2012 Report Posted August 22, 2012 The polls listed here must be wrong then, that damn Wikipedia. Wiki is the source I used. Compare please the wiki polls this last year to the 2009 I think you will find you are the one who is reaching. Quote
Newfoundlander Posted August 22, 2012 Report Posted August 22, 2012 Wiki is the source I used. Compare please the wiki polls this last year to the 2009 I think you will find you are the one who is reaching. Why? Since Mulcair became leader they've led or have been tied with the Conservatives, how's that different then 2009? Quote
PIK Posted August 22, 2012 Report Posted August 22, 2012 Hiding nothing. He died of cancer. They just arent sayiong which one, not that it matters to anyone. Newspapers are a source of information ....heard of them? What are they hiding, come guyser answer the question. If they can't say what cancer ,then I don't think it was. Something is up and canadians want to know. And yes everyone like jack, and everybody knew he never would be leader. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
guyser Posted August 22, 2012 Report Posted August 22, 2012 What are they hiding, Nothing. We alll know it was cancer,as for the type, does it matter and they want not all to know. If they can't say what cancer ,then I don't think it was. None of your f'ing business what type. You are not a Dr . Something is up and canadians want to know. Actually Canadians are not concerned at all. Thye know he died of cancer and thats good enough for Canadians. But some ignorant doofus' want to pry and be petulant little shits to try and rub it in. Most people scoff at those petulant little shits and tell them to mind their own business. Quote
guyser Posted August 22, 2012 Report Posted August 22, 2012 Didnt think Layton would be lionized but there you go. I never voted for him, likely never would have. Didnt like him in Muni politics , wouldnt like him on the big stage. No matter what, he did galvanize a ton of people and showed courage until the end. Quote
Topaz Posted August 22, 2012 Report Posted August 22, 2012 Remember when Ignatieff and the Liberals were leading the Conservatives in the polls and he was on his way to being Canada's next Prime Minister? You mean BEFORE the robcalls took effect????? Quote
PIK Posted August 22, 2012 Report Posted August 22, 2012 Nothing. We alll know it was cancer,as for the type, does it matter and they want not all to know. None of your f'ing business what type. You are not a Dr . Actually Canadians are not concerned at all. Thye know he died of cancer and thats good enough for Canadians. But some ignorant doofus' want to pry and be petulant little shits to try and rub it in. Most people scoff at those petulant little shits and tell them to mind their own business. I just demand the same treatment as a conservative would be given. If it was harper you and everyone else would be having a heyday, so I thought I would just throw it right back at ya. Don't like it do ya. So back to the question, what was it or was jack gay and died of aids and they are to embarressed to say? Which does not bother me at all if he was, jack was a nice guy. But concerned canadians want to know. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
waldo Posted August 22, 2012 Report Posted August 22, 2012 But concerned canadians want to know. what is the concern you speak of? Quote
WWWTT Posted August 22, 2012 Author Report Posted August 22, 2012 Remember when Ignatieff and the Liberals were leading the Conservatives in the polls and he was on his way to being Canada's next Prime Minister? Ya that was a real good week for the liberals wasn't it! WWWTT Quote Maple Leaf Web is now worth $720.00! Down over $1,500 in less than one year! Total fail of the moderation on this site! That reminds me, never ask Greg to be a business partner! NEVER!
WWWTT Posted August 22, 2012 Author Report Posted August 22, 2012 I guess in a way you're right. He did use his death letter for pure partisan politics, which was pretty sad in my opinion. Oh well. But it's ok when Fantino uses the deaths of two people in a shooting to promote conservative policy?You must be crying your eyes out buddy. WWWTT Quote Maple Leaf Web is now worth $720.00! Down over $1,500 in less than one year! Total fail of the moderation on this site! That reminds me, never ask Greg to be a business partner! NEVER!
WWWTT Posted August 22, 2012 Author Report Posted August 22, 2012 Almost as dumb as expecting the liberals making any sort of come back right? WWWTT Quote Maple Leaf Web is now worth $720.00! Down over $1,500 in less than one year! Total fail of the moderation on this site! That reminds me, never ask Greg to be a business partner! NEVER!
WWWTT Posted August 22, 2012 Author Report Posted August 22, 2012 They don't need to make a dramatic comeback for the CPC to retain power. They just need to split the vote enough that neither party can overtake the CPC. You've got your head stuck in mid 90's politics! If the liberals gain support it will come at the expense of the conservatives and split the vote helping the NDP. WWWTT Quote Maple Leaf Web is now worth $720.00! Down over $1,500 in less than one year! Total fail of the moderation on this site! That reminds me, never ask Greg to be a business partner! NEVER!
guyser Posted August 22, 2012 Report Posted August 22, 2012 I just demand the same treatment as a conservative would be given. So if one is a giant Ahole about things, you want to be one too? Ok got it. You labeled yourself, no one else did If it was harper you and everyone else would be having a heyday, so I thought I would just throw it right back at ya. Not from me you wouldnt. There is some validity to knowing about the health of a guy who may be given a mandate to run this country, but after the fact it is none of my and yours business. So back to the question, what was it or was jack gay and died of aids and they are to embarressed to say? Which does not bother me at all if he was, jack was a nice guy. But concerned canadians want to know. Grow up ya petulant little boy Quote
Guest American Woman Posted August 22, 2012 Report Posted August 22, 2012 What are they hiding, come guyser answer the question. If they can't say what cancer ,then I don't think it was. Something is up and canadians want to know. They can say what cancer - his wife and family know - they are just choosing not to say what kind of cancer; and the reason given is that they don't want to discourage others who are fighting the same form of cancer. Quote
Newfoundlander Posted August 23, 2012 Report Posted August 23, 2012 Ya that was a real good week for the liberals wasn't it! WWWTT Nothing better then an arrogant socialist, can't wait to see your comments in three years. Quote
BubberMiley Posted August 23, 2012 Report Posted August 23, 2012 What are they hiding, come guyser answer the question. If they can't say what cancer ,then I don't think it was. Something is up and canadians want to know. I don't think Canadians want to know, but you could always try starting a deather movement. Unfortunately, I think all you can do is insinuate it was AIDS because there aren't many other diseases with much of a stigma attached. Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
Fletch 27 Posted August 23, 2012 Report Posted August 23, 2012 One year later? We still do not know what finally took him and Olivia Chow and Mulcair need to show openness and accountability to the last 2 months of his life. Im just saying... with him busted in a rub-n-tug and a few shady moments (live by the sword,, die by the sword"??) , and his appearnace in the last interviews, would "Aids" be far fetched??? We need an NDP party that will show clarity and accountability to the promisses made and hopefully not what was a desperate grasp for power of a dying man. At the moment, that is his legacy.. Yesterdays "display" was a podium for Olivia Chow and Mulcair.. Mulcair has been NO EXISTANT in the media for half a year and now pounces on a tear-jerker... That is the NDP's legacy! The John Lennon song plaid in the backgroud?? WTF really? The legacy of the NDP and Jack? "Smoke and mirrors"... Nothing has been accomplished... I my heart goes out to the family.. but the public display is really making my respect slide... Quote
Newfoundlander Posted August 23, 2012 Report Posted August 23, 2012 Why exactly do you feel the party needs to say what happened to him? I find it odd not to say but it's nobodies business. Quote
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