punked Posted July 30, 2012 Report Posted July 30, 2012 (edited) Sorry punked, but his "being a spy behind enemy lines" quote is right out of his memoire. Try again. And the other quote Shady? You don't get to post two quotes, not source them, then attribute them both to his book when only one of them was in there. Sorry liar. So tell us why we should trust one word you say when it is quite clear you are willing to pretend things were said when they weren't, or when you are willing to try and source quotes that were never in a book to that book? To late now Shady you lose. BTW anyone who actually read the book would know the context. Obama is talking about being a successful Black man at Business International and how he felt he stood out. This was not because he was some closet socialist who hate Business International or the capitalist system. It is IF YOU READ THE BOOK because in the early 90s the only people he saw in that job were not of his race or social class. He felt like an outsider. It is quite clear to anyone not talking quotes out of context and making up a bunch of crap about them. That isn't the way Shady likes to post though. He likes to make stuff up he would rather believe then get the true context of things. SORRY SHADY. Maybe next time read the book instead of the right wing blog posting about it. You will look less foolish next time....maybe. Edited July 30, 2012 by punked Quote
BubberMiley Posted August 1, 2012 Report Posted August 1, 2012 SORRY SHADY. Maybe next time read the book instead of the right wing blog posting about it. You will look less foolish next time....maybe. You'd think after repeatedly getting caught taking things out of context or outright lying, they would realize they look like fools and stop. I guess if you're just regurgitating talking points from people who don't think you're smart enough to check, that's going to happen Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
Shady Posted August 1, 2012 Author Report Posted August 1, 2012 What was the context of Obama's referencing Rev. Wright's sermon titled "White man's greed runs a world in need?". Why did he specifically site that sermon as really hitting home with him? Why? Brcaused it reinforced his anti-American and anti-capitalism views. Quote
GostHacked Posted August 1, 2012 Report Posted August 1, 2012 Good point. I don't think independents will see it in a positive light. But I guess it remains to be seen. I also agree that it's simply amazing that some people can't admit to the obvious gaffe. I guess once somebody's an Obamabot, they're always an Obamabot. We know that you are gonna put Romney on a pedestal, if you have not already. Romneybot. Quote
punked Posted August 1, 2012 Report Posted August 1, 2012 What was the context of Obama's referencing Rev. Wright's sermon titled "White man's greed runs a world in need?". Why did he specifically site that sermon as really hitting home with him? Why? Brcaused it reinforced his anti-American and anti-capitalism views. Give it up Shady. You look foolish. Quote
bleeding heart Posted August 1, 2012 Report Posted August 1, 2012 Why? Brcaused it reinforced his anti-American and anti-capitalism views. Just to get this straight: you think the President of the United States is "anti-capitalist," and "anti-American'? Quote “There is a limit to how much we can constantly say no to the political masters in Washington. All we had was Afghanistan to wave. On every other file we were offside. Eventually we came onside on Haiti, so we got another arrow in our quiver." --Bill Graham, Former Canadian Foreign Minister, 2007
Shady Posted August 1, 2012 Author Report Posted August 1, 2012 Just to get this straight: you think the President of the United States is "anti-capitalist," and "anti-American'? How would you characterize a president that overtly asserts he wants to "fundamentally transform America?" Quote
BubberMiley Posted August 1, 2012 Report Posted August 1, 2012 How would you characterize a president that overtly asserts he wants to "fundamentally transform America?" That would probably depend upon the context of those words, wouldn't it? Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
bleeding heart Posted August 1, 2012 Report Posted August 1, 2012 How would you characterize a president that overtly asserts he wants to "fundamentally transform America?" Who cares about conventional Presidential campaign sloganeering? You haven't answered the question. Quote “There is a limit to how much we can constantly say no to the political masters in Washington. All we had was Afghanistan to wave. On every other file we were offside. Eventually we came onside on Haiti, so we got another arrow in our quiver." --Bill Graham, Former Canadian Foreign Minister, 2007
GostHacked Posted August 1, 2012 Report Posted August 1, 2012 How would you characterize a president that overtly asserts he wants to "fundamentally transform America?" And completely ignoring the base of this transformation starting with previous administrations? Obama sure does deserve some blame, but please leave the Bush Derangement Syndrome at the door if you want to talk about consistency in your outrage. Because, you did not build your argument. Government did. Quote
msj Posted August 1, 2012 Report Posted August 1, 2012 How would you characterize a president that overtly asserts he wants to "fundamentally transform America?" Bubber beat me to it already: depends on the context of his words. And, since you have no credibility quoting anyone, there is no point discussing this further with a Rush Limbaugh wannabe. Quote If a believer demands that I, as a non-believer, observe his taboos in the public domain, he is not asking for my respect but for my submission. And that is incompatible with a secular democracy. Flemming Rose (Dutch journalist) My biggest takeaway from economics is that the past wasn't as good as you remember, the present isn't as bad as you think, and the future will be better than you anticipate. Morgan Housel http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2016/01/14/things-im-pretty-sure-about.aspx
Shady Posted August 1, 2012 Author Report Posted August 1, 2012 That would probably depend upon the context of those words, wouldn't it? The context is that he wants to fundamentally transform America. One doesn't want to fundamentally transform a country they generally find favourable. Quote
punked Posted August 1, 2012 Report Posted August 1, 2012 The context is that he wants to fundamentally transform America. One doesn't want to fundamentally transform a country they generally find favourable. You don't get to speak to context anymore. You lost that right the 5th or 10th time you lied about what someone said or the context of what they were saying Shady. Romney has also lost that right with much of the American people. He defined himself as a liar and that is what he gets to be until the end of the election. Quote
Shady Posted August 1, 2012 Author Report Posted August 1, 2012 You don't get to speak to context anymore. You lost that right the 5th or 10th time you lied about what someone said or the context of what they were saying Shady. Romney has also lost that right with much of the American people. He defined himself as a liar and that is what he gets to be until the end of the election. Complete nonsense. You're only excuse to the dumb and irresponsible things Obama says is to claim they're out of context when they're not. Quote
cybercoma Posted August 1, 2012 Report Posted August 1, 2012 You'd think after repeatedly getting caught taking things out of context or outright lying, they would realize they look like fools and stop. I guess if you're just regurgitating talking points from people who don't think you're smart enough to check, that's going to happen It's the Facebook culture. All opinions are created equally you know. The most uninformed opinions are equal to that of the well-researched and studied opinions. Quote
cybercoma Posted August 1, 2012 Report Posted August 1, 2012 You don't get to speak to context anymore. You lost that right the 5th or 10th time you lied about what someone said or the context of what they were saying Shady. Romney has also lost that right with much of the American people. He defined himself as a liar and that is what he gets to be until the end of the election. This is what happens when people are (mis)informed by Fox News. Quote
punked Posted August 1, 2012 Report Posted August 1, 2012 Complete nonsense. You're only excuse to the dumb and irresponsible things Obama says is to claim they're out of context when they're not. Nope it has been well documented throughout this thread how they have been out of context and often mis-attributed. Sorry Shady. Quote
Shady Posted August 1, 2012 Author Report Posted August 1, 2012 Nope it has been well documented throughout this thread how they have been out of context and often mis-attributed. Sorry Shady. Nope, I've debunked everything you've documented. And it's no Coinsidence that Obama's policies mirror his anti-business views. Quote
GostHacked Posted August 1, 2012 Report Posted August 1, 2012 Nope, I've debunked everything you've documented. And it's no Coinsidence that Obama's policies mirror his anti-business views. You are going to give the Iraq Disinformation Minister a run for his money. I am no fan of Obama, (told you he was going to be worse than Bush, but in a different way, i was called crazy.)... Romney won't be better but I already know you are going to give him a pass on much of his past and future wrongdoings. Inconstancy works against you. Quote
msj Posted August 1, 2012 Report Posted August 1, 2012 Nope it has been well documented throughout this thread how they have been out of context and often mis-attributed. Sorry Shady. Yes, so well documented that there is no need to say "sorry" and there is no need for further discussion. Shady = Troll so stop feeding him. Quote If a believer demands that I, as a non-believer, observe his taboos in the public domain, he is not asking for my respect but for my submission. And that is incompatible with a secular democracy. Flemming Rose (Dutch journalist) My biggest takeaway from economics is that the past wasn't as good as you remember, the present isn't as bad as you think, and the future will be better than you anticipate. Morgan Housel http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2016/01/14/things-im-pretty-sure-about.aspx
Shady Posted August 1, 2012 Author Report Posted August 1, 2012 You are going to give the Iraq Disinformation Minister a run for his money. I am no fan of Obama, (told you he was going to be worse than Bush, but in a different way, i was called crazy.)... Romney won't be better but I already know you are going to give him a pass on much of his past and future wrongdoings. Inconstancy works against you. No, I won't give him a pass. If he claims he's going to slay the deficit, I expect it to get done. If he says he's going to reform entitlements, I expect it to get done. Quote
punked Posted August 1, 2012 Report Posted August 1, 2012 No, I won't give him a pass. If he claims he's going to slay the deficit, I expect it to get done. If he says he's going to reform entitlements, I expect it to get done. Just like Bush. Quote
GostHacked Posted August 1, 2012 Report Posted August 1, 2012 No, I won't give him a pass. If he claims he's going to slay the deficit, I expect it to get done. If he says he's going to reform entitlements, I expect it to get done. Then you are going to be one disappointed man if you actually expect Romney to accomplish all that. YES WE CAN !!! However, you have already given him a pass on the whole Bain Capitol fiasco. Quote
Shady Posted August 1, 2012 Author Report Posted August 1, 2012 Then you are going to be one disappointed man if you actually expect Romney to accomplish all that. YES WE CAN !!! However, you have already given him a pass on the whole Bain Capitol fiasco. What's the Bain Capitol "fiasco?" Quote
GostHacked Posted August 1, 2012 Report Posted August 1, 2012 What's the Bain Capitol "fiasco?" What do you mean obtuse? Quote
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