The Right One Posted April 16, 2012 Report Posted April 16, 2012 Leviticus 18:22 "Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination. http://www.thestar.com/news/article/1162122--pride-toronto-issues-invitation-to-rob-ford?bn=1#comments Mayor Rob Ford will receive his official invitation to Pride Toronto 2012 festivities on Monday or Tuesday, but he has already ignored an olive branch from a prominent gay member of council. Rob Ford has a family, aka children and a WIFE. this is more important than witnessing live transfer of HIV and other diseases. Quote
Michael Hardner Posted April 16, 2012 Report Posted April 16, 2012 Rob Ford has a family, aka children and a WIFE. this is more important than witnessing live transfer of HIV and other diseases. You can't go to pride if you have a family and a wife ? It would go a long way to mending fences, if Rob made an effort to attend this event. The main reason not to attend is to send a message that you are stubborn and will never compromise... Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
cybercoma Posted April 16, 2012 Report Posted April 16, 2012 What does him having a family and a wife have to do with anything? There are many straight people that attend the PRIDE parade in support of friends and family in the LGBTQ community. It's about equality, but you don't see that because some 2000 year old piece of fiction that is held up as unquestionable tells you otherwise. Meanwhile, you have no problems calling other cultures archaic and primitive. Keep flaunting your primitive texts, while the rest of us live in modern times. Quote
Boges Posted April 16, 2012 Report Posted April 16, 2012 What does him having a family and a wife have to do with anything? There are many straight people that attend the PRIDE parade in support of friends and family in the LGBTQ community. It's about equality, but you don't see that because some 2000 year old piece of fiction that is held up as unquestionable tells you otherwise. Meanwhile, you have no problems calling other cultures archaic and primitive. Keep flaunting your primitive texts, while the rest of us live in modern times. How ironic. In response to someone slagging Gays, you go to town and slag Christian beliefs. Quote
jacee Posted April 16, 2012 Report Posted April 16, 2012 Leviticus 18:22 "Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination. http://www.thestar.com/news/article/1162122--pride-toronto-issues-invitation-to-rob-ford?bn=1#comments Mayor Rob Ford will receive his official invitation to Pride Toronto 2012 festivities on Monday or Tuesday, but he has already ignored an olive branch from a prominent gay member of council. Rob Ford has a family, aka children and a WIFE. this is more important than witnessing live transfer of HIV and other diseases. Homophobes have such obssessions with envisioning other people's sexual habits. I do personally believe that such obssession reveals homosexual desires that they constantly have to supress, due to their homophobic social or religious milieu. Why else would someone fantasize about gay sex in the streets ... when that's not what happens at all. If you REALLY snooped around, you might see a gay couple sneak off for sex, but you can see hetero couples doing that any night! So sad for to have to live such a troubled life burying desires. So much healthier to be free to be what you are. I had a friend like that. He thought EVERYBODY had those urges, and just had to supress them. When he realized that other people just don't have those urges, he was finally able to 'come out', be free, be himself. Ford is such a dork. He's made such an issue of it now, such a fool of himself., that there's really no way out for him. I'm not totally insensitive, though: I do know that men who were sexually abused by men (as a child) might have an aversion to the thought of same sex relations. However, those who abuse children aren't homosexuals: They are pedophiles, and pedophiles don't care whether it's boys or girls they abuse, though boys are less likely to tell. Issues ... homophobes have issues to deal with themselves, preferably without foisting their opinions on others. Quote
Boges Posted April 16, 2012 Report Posted April 16, 2012 I'm not totally insensitive, though: I do know that men who were sexually abused by men (as a child) might have an aversion to the thought of same sex relations. However, those who abuse children aren't homosexuals: They are pedophiles, and pedophiles don't care whether it's boys or girls they abuse, though boys are less likely to tell. That's one hell of an unsupportable claim you made there. You doing a stopstaaron impersonation? Quote
Michael Hardner Posted April 16, 2012 Report Posted April 16, 2012 How ironic. In response to someone slagging Gays, you go to town and slag Christian beliefs. Well, you are the one who brought scripture into it, presumably to justify your "slagging" (your word) of "gays". (your word) Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
cybercoma Posted April 16, 2012 Report Posted April 16, 2012 How ironic. In response to someone slagging Gays, you go to town and slag Christian beliefs. As well they should be slagged. Gays did nothing wrong. Christian beliefs are insulting and harmful. Quote
Boges Posted April 16, 2012 Report Posted April 16, 2012 (edited) As well they should be slagged. Gays did nothing wrong. Christian beliefs are insulting and harmful. Yeah "Love your neighbour". Such hateful stuff. There's a difference between hating Homosexuals and not condoning their life choices. Let's say you oppose public displays of hetrosexual sex. Should you be called a Hetrophobe? Edited April 16, 2012 by Boges Quote
Michael Hardner Posted April 16, 2012 Report Posted April 16, 2012 What about if you quote a section of a holy book that calls for their execution ? What then ? Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
Black Dog Posted April 16, 2012 Report Posted April 16, 2012 How ironic. In response to someone slagging Gays, you go to town and slag Christian beliefs. OP was quoting the Old Testament, not "Christian beliefs." Quote
Moonlight Graham Posted April 16, 2012 Report Posted April 16, 2012 He's the freaking mayor of Toronto, which has a very vibrant gay community, so if you decide you want to be mayor of Toronto you better get with the program. Gays are part of his constituency too. On the other hand, looks like a lot of gay people, gay supporters, and young people (as always) stayed home last election day so maybe this will wake them up next time if they don't want a dolt like Ford in office. You get what you vote for (or don't vote for). Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
g_bambino Posted April 16, 2012 Report Posted April 16, 2012 (edited) He thought EVERYBODY had those urges, and just had to supress them. Everybody does have those urges, to some varying extent at some point or points in their lives. Nobody should have to repress them; but, most (and mainly males) face pretty significant stigma if they don't. That said, I don't get the hoopla over the Mayor's declining to participate in the Pride parade. I get the general feeling that the importance of Pride is overblown, as though its the penultimate event of the social calendar and everyone has to agree with that. Plus, Ford (despite how much I dislike him) is free to hold his opinions and make his choices. We don't know why he doesnt join in, so casting labels like "homophobe" on him is pretty presumptuous. Perhaps he's just a prude; there may not be sex in the middle of Yonge Street, but Pride is pretty lascivious. [ed.: +] Edited April 16, 2012 by g_bambino Quote
Boges Posted April 16, 2012 Report Posted April 16, 2012 OP was quoting the Old Testament, not "Christian beliefs." OK so he was slagging Jews then. Bernie Farber at the Canadian Jewish Council has been notified. Quote
The_Squid Posted April 16, 2012 Report Posted April 16, 2012 Pride parades, Sihk parades.... I understand that a mayor's role is to attend these things whether or not they agree with them. This has been happening for a century or more. THe mayor shows up to any big event in town to smile and shake hands. I've seen the pride parade go by while I was visiting a friend in a 9th story apartment in Vancouver. It woke me up and I was very hungover. Personally, from what I saw, I wouldn't take an elevator to go see one. Not because they woke me up and I was grumpy, just because it was definitely not my scene. Should a mayor be obligated to go? I don't think so... but I don't care either way. Biblical beliefs.... What happens when the bible says we should stone adulterers to death? Why is that part of the bible removed, but not others? Should the faithful only ignore the violent parts? How does one decide? Listen to the Pastor? Where did he get his information on what in the bible people should take as gospel and what is OK to ignore? Quote
eyeball Posted April 16, 2012 Report Posted April 16, 2012 How ironic. In response to someone slagging Gays, you go to town and slag Christian beliefs. Are you saying slagging human beings is equal to slagging a belief? Oh, wait a minute...you believe that being gay is a belief. How idiotic ironic. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Boges Posted April 16, 2012 Report Posted April 16, 2012 Are you saying slagging human beings is equal to slagging a belief? Oh, wait a minute...you believe that being gay is a belief. How idiotic ironic. Well there's no evidence to support that Rob Ford avoided the Gay Pride Parade because of religious belief, that I know. Quote
jacee Posted April 16, 2012 Report Posted April 16, 2012 Yeah "Love your neighbour". Such hateful stuff. There's a difference between hating Homosexuals and not condoning their life choices. Let's say you oppose public displays of hetrosexual sex. Should you be called a Hetrophobe? Homophobes hate homosexuals. Most people oppose public displays of sex of any variety. I'm not aware of any public sex acts at Pride. Quote
Boges Posted April 16, 2012 Report Posted April 16, 2012 Homophobes hate homosexuals. Most people oppose public displays of sex of any variety. I'm not aware of any public sex acts at Pride. Well much of the Pride Parade exhibits overt forms of sexuality. Maybe not full on sex but the conduct might make someone uncomfortable regardless of their views on the rights of homosexuals. Quote
Guest Peeves Posted April 16, 2012 Report Posted April 16, 2012 (edited) What does him having a family and a wife have to do with anything? There are many straight people that attend the PRIDE parade in support of friends and family in the LGBTQ community. It's about equality, but you don't see that because some 2000 year old piece of fiction that is held up as unquestionable tells you otherwise. Meanwhile, you have no problems calling other cultures archaic and primitive. Keep flaunting your primitive texts, while the rest of us live in modern times. Some may make this about gays and trannies, and all, but it isn't for me. It's a parade that allows obscene participants that openly display law breaking antics that none other would get away with. Full frontal nudity by grotesquely painted 'in your face' performances and acts of depravity. I have no problem with a gay parade. This Toronto display of obscenity is not one I would want any of my elected official supporting in any way shape or means. Shame on those that would condone such behavior s acceptable on our city streets or parks. Edited April 16, 2012 by Peeves Quote
Black Dog Posted April 16, 2012 Report Posted April 16, 2012 I think Pride is pretty watered-down these days, which defeats the purpose if you ask me. Quote
Michael Hardner Posted April 16, 2012 Report Posted April 16, 2012 It's a parade that allows obscene participants that openly display law breaking antics that none other would get away with. Full frontal nudity by grotesquely painted 'in your face' performances and acts of depravity. I have no problem with a gay parade. This Toronto display of obscenity is not one I would want any of my elected official supporting in any way shape or means. Shame on those that would condone such behavior s acceptable on our city streets or parks. Not sure why you say these things. That's certainly not the parade that I have seen. When was it that you saw this ? Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
Black Dog Posted April 16, 2012 Report Posted April 16, 2012 Not sure why you say these things. That's certainly not the parade that I have seen. When was it that you saw this ? Mr. Canada's video perhaps? Quote
Keepitsimple Posted April 16, 2012 Report Posted April 16, 2012 As usual, the trouble with the cativist wing of the Gay community is that they go overboard with their Homophobe rants. So what - Ford was busy last year for Gay Pride and this year - he may - or may not attend Gay Pride ceremonies. It's understandable that the 2% (or less) of the population that is Gay have to make it seem like it's much higher but all this anti-Ford rhetoric does is make people roll their eyes. Give it a break. Quote Back to Basics
Guest Peeves Posted April 16, 2012 Report Posted April 16, 2012 (edited) Not sure why you say these things. That's certainly not the parade that I have seen. When was it that you saw this ? If you really want to experience the crap, look it up on You Tube. There's tons of it. Here's an example. Feel free to roll through to the full frontal nudity near the end. SHAME on any elected official or law enforcement that attends or supports. If you support the likes of these, shame on you too. And, those that take their kids ought to have social services on their backs. http://alexgtsakumis.com/2010/08/03/the-prideless-parade-drugs-extremism-and-hate-all-in-the-falsehood-of-diversity/ Edited April 16, 2012 by Peeves Quote
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