Tennessee: Holding hands is a gateway to sex

[Guest American Woman]

Sure some people will take advantage of anything when they can. Most good people don't.

Exactly. And those "good people" are allowed to homeschool their children; there is no punishment.

Sure, as long as home schooled children can pass the government state run school tests, then there is no problem.

Exactly. Which really makes me wonder what you were referring to earlier.

[cybercoma]

And how is that the State's problem?

Because we live in a society and those kids are part of that society.

[GostHacked]

Because we live in a society and those kids are part of that society.

So are these parents, they need to grow up and take responsibility of their children so the rest of us don't have to support them. Sure parents need help, and society can do that, but the parents need to step up and do the right things before society can really take up the slack.

More and more parents are letting the TV babysit a child, more and more don't want to be responsible but gives the state crap when the parents fail the child.

Kind of off topic now but .... schools are now taking over what the parents do. Teaching them about sex education, telling them what to eat (chicken nuggets is good, ham sandwich on whole wheat, bad).

The state is also trying to take some responsibilities away from the parents, which should not happen.

[Michael Hardner]

So are these parents, they need to grow up and take responsibility of their children so the rest of us don't have to support them.

You're missing the point. They DON'T do it. So what happens then ?

Kind of off topic now but .... schools are now taking over what the parents do. Teaching them about sex education, telling them what to eat (chicken nuggets is good, ham sandwich on whole wheat, bad).

The state is also trying to take some responsibilities away from the parents, which should not happen.

It's not taking them away. It's providing back-up so that the children are taught something, even if the parents don't take their responsibility.

[-TSS-]

I think parents are allowed to home-school their children provided by that they are qualified and informative enough on quite a large number of subjects. Depends on the age of the children too.

[The_Squid]

So can anyone define what a "gateway sex act" is?

If it is not defined, how do they ban its teaching/promotion?

[Guest American Woman]

So can anyone define what a "gateway sex act" is?

If it is not defined, how do they ban its teaching/promotion?

Sex education varies a lot from district to district in some states, so perhaps this law is written the way it is so districts can put their own interpretation on it.

[Shady]

So can anyone define what a "gateway sex act" is?

Not really, it's completely subjective.

If it is not defined, how do they ban its teaching/promotion?

They aren't banning or not teaching anything based on so-called gateway acts.

[cybercoma]

So can anyone define what a "gateway sex act" is?

If it is not defined, how do they ban its teaching/promotion?

Gazing longingly across the classroom. Next thing you know, BAM! Underage mother.

[Guest American Woman]

Gazing longingly across the classroom. Next thing you know, BAM! Underage mother.

Of course that's you saying that, not "Tennessee," not this bill.

I find it really interesting that all of the hyperbole about what "gateway sex" constitutes is coming from the "critics" of this bill for including what they say it includes. They are the ones coming up with extreme examples - as they attribute their examples to "Tennessee," and criticize Tennessee for it.

[cybercoma]

Of course that's you saying that, not "Tennessee," not this bill.

I find it really interesting that all of the hyperbole about what "gateway sex" constitutes is coming from the "critics" of this bill for including what they say it includes. They are the ones coming up with extreme examples - as they attribute their examples to "Tennessee," and criticize Tennessee for it.

...because I was being really serious. Super serious even.

[Guest American Woman]

...because I was being really serious. Super serious even.

I'm sure you were, as in I'm sure you were seriously mocking Tennessee. Super seriously even. Just as I said.

[TheNewTeddy]

I think the state is trying to join the deep south

[cybercoma]

I'm sure you were, as in I'm sure you were seriously mocking Tennessee. Super seriously even. Just as I said.

Why would I mock Tennessee? They make awesome liquor.... and come up with sweet terms like "gateway sex." Edited April 18, 2012 by cybercoma

[Shady]

Why would I mock Tennessee? They make awesome liquor.... and come up with sweet terms like "gateway sex."

You think they came up with "gateway sex?"

[Guest American Woman]

Why would I mock Tennessee? They make awesome liquor.... and come up with sweet terms like "gateway sex."

Because you're you. But do keep it up. I find it amusing (though I'm not laughing with you .... )

And speaking of funny - Horny Montreal teens will return to school this fall yet again without guaranteed sex education. Quebec's education ministry can't confirm if promised new programming will be offered by 2012 either.

... it's normal to come across Montreal youth who don't know how pregnancy happens, how sexually transmitted infections are spread, or how to access a morning after pill. Some teachers and administrators may avoid sex education because they misperceive it as encouragement for promiscuity, she said, or they may lack the knowledge, security, or the time to include it in an already packed schedule. Or if it is taught, said Turner Ritchie, the approach may be punitive, misinformed, or use scare tactics.

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Poor, deprived "horny Montreal teens." Now that's something to make jokes about, eh?

[The_Squid]

Of course that's you saying that, not "Tennessee," not this bill.

I find it really interesting that all of the hyperbole about what "gateway sex" constitutes is coming from the "critics" of this bill for including what they say it includes. They are the ones coming up with extreme examples - as they attribute their examples to "Tennessee," and criticize Tennessee for it.

Can you let us know what would constitute "gateway sex" then if you are so sure of what it is NOT?

[Guest American Woman]

You think they came up with "gateway sex?"

Of course not, and "holding hands" wasn't the driving force behind the bill:

Proponents say the move is necessary to prevent a recurrence of recent controversies in Nashville and Knox County schools, which faced a backlash after teachers mentioned to high school students that there were alternatives they might try short of sexual intercourse.

link

But yeah, I'm sure "holding hands" is what was being mentioned as an alternative they might try short of sexual intercourse.

Edited to add: Oral sex a 'gateway' activity for teens

Edited April 18, 2012 by American Woman

[BubberMiley]

I wonder what other hits came up when AW googled "oral sex" and "teens".

[cybercoma]

Because you're you. But do keep it up. I find it amusing (though I'm not laughing with you .... )

Of course you're not laughing with me because on top of being condescending and insufferable, your posts constantly exhibit the Dunning-Kruger Effect.

[Guest American Woman]

Of course you're not laughing with me because on top of being condescending and insufferable, your posts constantly exhibit the Dunning-Kruger Effect.

Still laughing.....

[Shady]

Of course you're not laughing with me because on top of being condescending and insufferable, your posts constantly exhibit the Dunning-Kruger Effect.

Says the chamption of Dunning-Krugar.

Pot meet kettle!

[Shady]

I wonder what other hits came up when AW googled "oral sex" and "teens".

Your mom.

...and dad.

Edited April 18, 2012 by Shady

[cybercoma]

Says the chamption of Dunning-Krugar.

Pot meet kettle!

At least I spelled it correctly.

I'm not really sure how you can mess it up when it's in the post you replied to. But there you have it.

[Shady]

At least I spelled it correctly.

There's some more of it.