punked Posted October 8, 2012 Report Posted October 8, 2012 Up next, old man Biden! Looking forward to that one. I expect lyin Ryan to meet Mitts record for telling lies. We will see if the strategy of lyin right until the election will work. Quote
Shady Posted October 8, 2012 Report Posted October 8, 2012 Up next, old man Biden! Biden is a fairly good debater, so if he can stay away from his usual gaffes, he'll be formidable. At the very least, he won't look as tired, and listless as Obama did. Quote
punked Posted October 8, 2012 Report Posted October 8, 2012 (edited) Biden is a fairly good debater, so if he can stay away from his usual gaffes, he'll be formidable. At the very least, he won't look as tired, and listless as Obama did. He is not Mitt Romney who is clearly the best debater in the world and who can't win the election unless his next two debates are better then his last one. Two can play the expectations game Shady. It doesn't add anything but hey its fun right? Edited October 8, 2012 by punked Quote
Shady Posted October 8, 2012 Report Posted October 8, 2012 More bad news for Obama... A new POLITICO/George Washington University Battleground Tracking Poll of likely voters shows ahead of Mitt Romney 49 percent to 48 percent nationally, a statistical tie and a percentage point closer than a week ago.... Only 73 percent who support Obama say they are “extremely likely” to vote, compared to 86 percent who back Romney. Likewise, 84 percent of Republicans say they are extremely likely to vote, compared to 76 percent of Democrats. Among those extremely likely to vote, Romney actually leads Obama 52 percent to 46 percent. That’s up from a 2-point lead last week. Obama led 50 percent to 47 percent among this group three weeks ago. Link Quote
punked Posted October 8, 2012 Report Posted October 8, 2012 (edited) Shady you know how stupid you look quoting polls you said were fixed? It is fine because I know you were doing that because you are a liar but now you look like a crazy person. As for the polls. I good news for Romney although there is still plenty of race to be run and if the bounce stops or slides I do t want to hear any whining from you about polls. More great News for Romney Gallup Surprise: Obama Jumps Back To A 5-Point Lead - Business Insider http://www.businessinsider.com/obama-vs-romney-gallup-poll-oct-8-results-2012-10 So the race is back to where it was before the debates. Does this mean Shady doesn't believe in polls again. Looking forward to that Flip Flop. Edited October 8, 2012 by punked Quote
sharkman Posted October 8, 2012 Report Posted October 8, 2012 Biden is a fairly good debater, so if he can stay away from his usual gaffes, he'll be formidable. At the very least, he won't look as tired, and listless as Obama did. Interesting, that's what Ryan has been saying, that the man is quick on his feet and has a head for the data. Weird that he makes so many bonehead statements though. Quote
punked Posted October 8, 2012 Report Posted October 8, 2012 Interesting, that's what Ryan has been saying, that the man is quick on his feet and has a head for the data. Weird that he makes so many bonehead statements though. Don't you know Biden is only Dumb until he actually has to be compared to an actual Republican. Quote
Shady Posted October 8, 2012 Report Posted October 8, 2012 Uh oh, spaghettios! New Pew poll: Romney erases eight-point deficit, now leads by four among likely votersLink Quote
punked Posted October 8, 2012 Report Posted October 8, 2012 Uh oh, spaghettios! Again if the bounce back happens Shady I expect to hear no complaining from you. Considering Gallup pulled in a 59% to 39% last night for Obama I don't want any crying or saying the numbers were fudged. So tell me all about these polls internals Shady. Quote
cybercoma Posted October 8, 2012 Report Posted October 8, 2012 Again if the bounce back happens Shady I expect to hear no complaining from you. Considering Gallup pulled in a 59% to 39% last night for Obama I don't want any crying or saying the numbers were fudged. So tell me all about these polls internals Shady. They support his point of view, why would he bother criticizing them the way he criticizes polls that don't? Shady has absolutely no intellectual honesty. Quote
punked Posted October 8, 2012 Report Posted October 8, 2012 They support his point of view, why would he bother criticizing them the way he criticizes polls that don't? Shady has absolutely no intellectual honesty. It is scary really that this is how far the right has fallen. Romney is now leading so the numbers are real, Obama gets a good job report so the numbers are fake. Inventing your own world to live in so you can ignore the reality around you is how the world got itself in trouble in the 40s. It leads to polarized world views and terrible things. There are reasons to vote for Romney and there are reasons to vote for Obama but pretending that facts are lies because they don't fit your world view makes you part of the problem. Quote
Shady Posted October 8, 2012 Report Posted October 8, 2012 Again if the bounce back happens Shady I expect to hear no complaining from you. Considering Gallup pulled in a 59% to 39% last night for Obama I don't want any crying or saying the numbers were fudged. So tell me all about these polls internals Shady. What in the world are you talking about? Since when has the race ever been Obama by 20% points. You're being ridiculous. Quote
punked Posted October 8, 2012 Report Posted October 8, 2012 What in the world are you talking about? Since when has the race ever been Obama by 20% points. You're being ridiculous. I am pointing out what numbers Gallup would have to have pulled last night in their polling to put Obama up by 5 points today. You know Shady math, it isn't your strong suit and I know how polls work escape you I am just saying, if you push polls right now you don't get to discount them if the trend changes as todays polling says it just might be. Quote
Shady Posted October 8, 2012 Report Posted October 8, 2012 (edited) To paraphrase Mark Twain, the reports of the Romney campaign's death are greatly exaggerated... PEW: R 49% O 45% Pew Bu, bu, but I thought the race was over? Wasn't it? Why didn't anybody tell the Romney campaign? Don't they know it's over yet? Why are they still campaigning? Surely the VP debate later this week has been called off. Edited October 8, 2012 by Shady Quote
punked Posted October 8, 2012 Report Posted October 8, 2012 To paraphrase Mark Twain, the reports of the Romney campaign's death are greatly exaggerated... Bu, bu, but I thought the race was over? Wasn't it? Why didn't anybody tell the Romney campaign? Don't they know it's over yet? Why are they still campaigning? Surely the VP debate later this week has been called off. Again Shady enjoy while it lasts but no crying if the polls start creeping the other way. Quoting polls done before the jobs numbers were released must make you feel great but I wouldn't celebrate to soon because now you can't fall back on how all polling is always wrong. Quote
Shady Posted October 8, 2012 Report Posted October 8, 2012 Again Shady enjoy while it lasts but no crying if the polls start creeping the other way. Quoting polls done before the jobs numbers were released must make you feel great but I wouldn't celebrate to soon because now you can't fall back on how all polling is always wrong. Oh yes, the jobs numbers. The job numbers that don't even keep up with population growth, that are still the weakest of any recovery, but magically bring the unemployment rate down by .3 percent. Yes, I'm not scared. Quote
punked Posted October 8, 2012 Report Posted October 8, 2012 Oh yes, the jobs numbers. The job numbers that don't even keep up with population growth, that are still the weakest of any recovery, but magically bring the unemployment rate down by .3 percent. Yes, I'm not scared. Yes the polls are cooked the jobs numbers are cooked unless Shady says so. Ok Shady you are crazy. Quote
cybercoma Posted October 8, 2012 Report Posted October 8, 2012 I guess Shady doesn't put much stock in http://www.270towin.com They have the probability of the Democrats reaching 270 electoral college votes at 96%, Republicans 3%, Tie 1%. Quote
cybercoma Posted October 8, 2012 Report Posted October 8, 2012 (edited) Those probabilities are with Obama sitting at 237 electoral votes, when the most recent polling actually has him at 247: http://www.270towin.com/2012-election-polling-map/obama-romney/ Shady, are you forgetting that popular vote doesn't matter? Ask Al Gore. Edited October 8, 2012 by cybercoma Quote
Shady Posted October 8, 2012 Report Posted October 8, 2012 I guess Shady doesn't put much stock in http://www.270towin.com Those numbers look about right. Quote
Shady Posted October 8, 2012 Report Posted October 8, 2012 Obama's also gone from 74 to 64 in 5 days on InTrade. I wouldn't be surprised if he's in the 50's in a week or so. Quote
cybercoma Posted October 8, 2012 Report Posted October 8, 2012 Those numbers look about right. 96% probability of a Democrat victory looks about right to you? The site was updated today with the latest polls, btw. Quote
Shady Posted October 8, 2012 Report Posted October 8, 2012 96% probability of a Democrat victory looks about right to you? No, the current electoral totals. The 96% probablility doesn't fit with reality. Even InTrade isn't reflecting that. Quote
cybercoma Posted October 8, 2012 Report Posted October 8, 2012 No, the current electoral totals. The 96% probablility doesn't fit with reality. Even InTrade isn't reflecting that. That's because intrade is not making predictions based on electoral college seats vis-a-vis polling data. You think about what kind of people have access to and use intrade, then consider that it's a popular vote of a very particular sample of Americans and you have your answer as to why the numbers do not match. 270towin's metric is a hell of a lot closer to an actual election than intrades procedure. Quote
cybercoma Posted October 8, 2012 Report Posted October 8, 2012 Oh and if you're watching Intrade Romney's share price dropped by 3.8% today while Obama's increased by 1.6%. Quote
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