Guest American Woman Posted March 26, 2012 Report Posted March 26, 2012 I heard he shot a guy right in the face while hunting, a couple of years ago. Musta had an argument or something. It was a hunting accident.. Cheney accidentally shoots fellow hunter Quote
Guest Peeves Posted March 26, 2012 Report Posted March 26, 2012 I heard he shot a guy right in the face while hunting, a couple of years ago. Musta had an argument or something. Some only hear and see what they want to hear or see. It's called selective recall. Quote
Guest Manny Posted March 26, 2012 Report Posted March 26, 2012 Some only hear and see what they want to hear or see. It's called selective recall. No, I was right, he did shoot a guy in the face. and without reading any links, I remember the guy almost died a few days later. Go look it up now, cheese boy. Quote
Guest American Woman Posted March 26, 2012 Report Posted March 26, 2012 No, I was right, he did shoot a guy in the face. and without reading any links, I remember the guy almost died a few days later. Go look it up now, cheese boy. I provided a link for you. Try reading it. It was a hunting accident. Quote
Guest Manny Posted March 26, 2012 Report Posted March 26, 2012 I provided a link for you. Try reading it. It was a hunting accident. I didn't dispute your claim it's an accident. So why should I Quote
Guest American Woman Posted March 26, 2012 Report Posted March 26, 2012 I didn't dispute your claim it's an accident. So why should I Because you said you were "right," even as you had previously insinuated that he did it on purpose because "he must have had an argument or something." So that's why you should. To learn the facts, so you can present it factually (and in that regard, it was six years ago, not "a couple"). Quote
Guest Manny Posted March 26, 2012 Report Posted March 26, 2012 (edited) Because you said you were "right," even as you had previously insinuated that he did it on purpose because "he must have had an argument or something." So that's why you should. To learn the facts, so you can present it factually (and in that regard, it was six years ago, not "a couple"). I was right that he did shoot someone in the face, but in my second sentence I wrote, "musta had an argument, or something", that was speculative. And it was written in a ways to indicate it WAS speculation, because I said "or something." So I have no problem with it. But I did go read something else about it just now (not your link), and I learned something else. Apparently Mr. Cheney has never apologized for it. If that's true, that's not very nice, is it? Edited March 26, 2012 by Manny Quote
Guest American Woman Posted March 26, 2012 Report Posted March 26, 2012 I was right that he did shoot someone in the face, but in my second sentence I wrote, "musta had an argument, or something", that was speculative. And it was written in a ways to indicate it WAS speculation, because I said "or something." So I have no problem with it. Yes, it was speculative, indicating that you thought he did it on purpose - which is why I said you insinuated that he had. You didn't speculate that it could have been an accident. But I did go read something else about it just now (not your link), and I learned something else. Apparently Mr. Cheney has never apologized for it. If that's true, that's not very nice, is it? 'I, of course, was deeply sorry for what Harry and his family had gone through,' writes Mr Cheney. 'The day of the hunting accident was one of the saddest of my life.' Quote
GostHacked Posted March 26, 2012 Report Posted March 26, 2012 I was right that he did shoot someone in the face, but in my second sentence I wrote, "musta had an argument, or something", that was speculative. And it was written in a ways to indicate it WAS speculation, because I said "or something." So I have no problem with it. But I did go read something else about it just now (not your link), and I learned something else. Apparently Mr. Cheney has never apologized for it. If that's true, that's not very nice, is it? Actually the funny part about that is ... the guy who got shot, did a PR thing and apologized to everyone from the trauma. Quote
Guest Manny Posted March 27, 2012 Report Posted March 27, 2012 Actually the funny part about that is ... the guy who got shot, did a PR thing and apologized to everyone from the trauma. Yeah, but that's what politics does to people. The bad guys walk away, and the good guys get shot in the face. Whittington says he wasn't aware that the White House initially blamed him for the accident (McClellan told reporters that Whittington failed to follow hunting "protocol" and announce his presence to Cheney). But he's not bothered to hear of it now. "Naturally, people want to make it appear that it's someone's fault," he shrugs. "I didn't care. He acknowledged that his "apology" statement upon his release from the hospital could have confused the issue by suggesting he was admitting fault. "It really wasn't that," he says. "I didn't intend it that way. It was more of a sense of disappointment that it happened at all. I'm sure it must have been difficult for Mr. Cheney and his family. I still feel the same way." But did Cheney ever say in private what he didn't say in public? Did he ever apologize? Whittington, who has been talking about his life and career for hours, suddenly draws silent. Harry Whittington is too gracious to say it out loud, but he doesn't dispute the notion, either. Nearly five years on, he's still waiting for Dick Cheney to say he's sorry. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/10/13/AR2010101307173.html That was written in 2010. So maybe Dick has decided to apologize to the man he shot since then? Or did he just put it in his memoirs or something. Because if he just wrote it in his book or says it in a TV interview, but not to the person he hurt, that ain't right. Quote
cybercoma Posted March 27, 2012 Report Posted March 27, 2012 'I, of course, was deeply sorry for what Harry and his family had gone through,' writes Mr Cheney. 'The day of the hunting accident was one of the saddest of my life.' Typical non-apology apology. Sorry you had to go through this, rather than sorry I shot you in the face. Quote
Moonlight Graham Posted March 27, 2012 Author Report Posted March 27, 2012 Typical non-apology apology. Sorry you had to go through this, rather than sorry I shot you in the face. He never apologized to him personally, clearly implied by the victim himself. Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
Jack Weber Posted March 27, 2012 Report Posted March 27, 2012 I don't think one gets to be VP and SOD (etc) by being a 'wuss'. As well, at 71, he might not want to have fist fights with or dodge thrown objects from hard-done-by Canadian protesters/anarchists/pitchfork carriers. 5 deferments... Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
DogOnPorch Posted March 27, 2012 Report Posted March 27, 2012 (edited) 5 deferments... Lots did. It was relatively easy if you played the game. Either way, he wouldn't have made FLI. Just a REMF. Edited March 27, 2012 by DogOnPorch Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Moonlight Graham Posted March 27, 2012 Author Report Posted March 27, 2012 Lots did. It was relatively easy if you played the game. Either way, he wouldn't have made FLI. Just a REMF. I would have done the same if I could, but that's because I probably wouldn't have agreed with the war at the time. I imagine that Cheney supported the war, but just didn't want to man-up. Wuss. Smart wuss, but a wuss. Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
DogOnPorch Posted March 27, 2012 Report Posted March 27, 2012 I'm not sure of the various particulars of Cheney's deferments during the Viet-Nam era. Nor am I sure if he supported the war or not. But, seeing he joined the Nixon Whitehouse in 1969, it would seem he had other things on the go that would have kept him out of Nam save volunteering. That might offend the Socialist in some...but, them's the breaks. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Moonlight Graham Posted March 28, 2012 Author Report Posted March 28, 2012 (edited) I'm not sure of the various particulars of Cheney's deferments during the Viet-Nam era. Nor am I sure if he supported the war or not. But, seeing he joined the Nixon Whitehouse in 1969, it would seem he had other things on the go that would have kept him out of Nam save volunteering. That might offend the Socialist in some...but, them's the breaks. From Wikipedia: When Cheney became eligible for the draft, during the Vietnam War, he applied for and received five draft deferments. In 1989, The Washington Post writer George C. Wilson interviewed Cheney as the next Secretary of Defense; when asked about his deferments, Cheney reportedly said, "I had other priorities in the '60s than military service." Cheney testified during his confirmation hearings in 1989 that he received deferments to finish a college career that lasted six years rather than four, owing to sub par academic performance and the need to work to pay for his education. Initially, he was not called up because the Selective Service System was only taking older men. When he became eligible for the draft, he applied for four deferments in sequence. He applied for his fifth exemption on January 19, 1966, when his wife was about 10 weeks pregnant. He was granted 3-A status, the "hardship" exemption, which excluded men with children or dependent parents. In January 1967, Cheney turned 26 and was no longer eligible for the draft. Wasn't even draft eligible anymore by the time he started working for the government. A baby I can understand. Wonder how he got the other ones. Edited March 28, 2012 by Moonlight Graham Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
DogOnPorch Posted March 28, 2012 Report Posted March 28, 2012 From Wikipedia: Wasn't even draft eligible anymore by the time he started working for the government. A baby I can understand. Wonder how he got the other ones. Good question. He wasn't particularly privileged but was a Yale man. Skull n' Bones, perhaps... Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
WWWTT Posted March 29, 2012 Report Posted March 29, 2012 I find it funny that some people easily dismiss shooting someone as an accident. Let me clarify. When Cheney pulled the trigger,what was he looking/aiming at? Was there a duck/dear or some other game right beside the guy that got shot.Or did he actualyy believe that this guy was game?If you shoot someone when hunting you screwed up big time!And as far as I'm concerned if this guy couldn't even get a hunting trip right.How did he ever become VP of the US???? WWWTT Quote Maple Leaf Web is now worth $720.00! Down over $1,500 in less than one year! Total fail of the moderation on this site! That reminds me, never ask Greg to be a business partner! NEVER!
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 29, 2012 Report Posted March 29, 2012 I find it funny that some people easily dismiss shooting someone as an accident. Happens all the time...not unusual at all. Let me clarify. When Cheney pulled the trigger,what was he looking/aiming at? Quail covey. How did he ever become VP of the US???? US Electoral College. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Topaz Posted March 29, 2012 Report Posted March 29, 2012 Cheney said he had one beer at lunch and he does have heart problems and probably taking medications for it so alcohol and medications usually don't mix. http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/crime/texas-cops-release-cheney-shooting-report Quote
jbg Posted March 29, 2012 Report Posted March 29, 2012 I find it funny that some people easily dismiss shooting someone as an accident. Let me clarify. When Cheney pulled the trigger,what was he looking/aiming at? Look, does anyone seriously think that Cheney tries to shoot humans? Stop being ridiculous. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
Guest American Woman Posted March 29, 2012 Report Posted March 29, 2012 Look, does anyone seriously think that Cheney tries to shoot humans? Stop being ridiculous. Exactly. According to the International Hunter Education Association, hunters accidentally shoot more than 1,000 people in the United States and Canada every year. It's not as if hunting accidents are unheard of. Quote
DogOnPorch Posted March 29, 2012 Report Posted March 29, 2012 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMRM5ugwm0Q Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
GostHacked Posted March 29, 2012 Report Posted March 29, 2012 Look, does anyone seriously think that Cheney tries to shoot humans? Stop being ridiculous. He does not have to try. He shot a human. Quote
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