How the heck can something like this happen why would you give drunk s

[olpfan1]

Good...I see you like American Christian rock bands too. America will always be here for you.

Yes, I really like Relient K too.. good stuff

[bush_cheney2004]

Yes, I really like Relient K too.. good stuff

I'm more of a Hawk Nelson or TobyMac kinda guy. America gives you great Christian rock and TV shows too.

[olpfan1]

and making this incident about "U.S. - Canada relations" is ludicrous at best.

why? this was Canadas district for half the war until we withdrew after being in Afghanistan for 10 years

and then some US soldier kills 9 children, 3 women & 4 men and as well kills the trust Canada had spent so

many years trying to make.. they actually liked that we were there it seemed

so yes this is in the right section

way to screw up so badly America

[olpfan1]

I'm more of a Hawk Nelson or TobyMac kinda guy. America gives you great Christian rock and TV shows too.

Ya know they do sing songs that dont overtly mention god or jesduds

[bush_cheney2004]

... they actually liked that we were there it seemed

...except for that taxi driver/passenger shot dead by Canadian forces at a check point.

way to screw up so badly America

America didn't leave.

[bush_cheney2004]

Ya know they do sing songs that dont overtly mention god or jesduds

Jesus is American too.

[olpfan1]

America didn't leave.

It was your war, but maybe now you should leave and never go back

[olpfan1]

Jesus is American too.

and so is superman right? haha okayyy

[bush_cheney2004]

It was your war, but maybe now you should leave and never go back

America didn't leave...was also the largest NGO contributor to Afghanistan before the war.

[GostHacked]

Why is this incident any different from any other mass murder?

Some would argue that 9/11 was something more than simple mass murder.

[Guest American Woman]

Some would argue that 9/11 was something more than simple mass murder.

Really? That's a new one on me. Just who do you think would argue that? One lone gunman going on a shooting spree vs 19 people carrying out an executed, premeditated, highly planned attack - who, exactly, would see that as a "simple mass murder?"

Edited March 12, 2012 by American Woman

[GostHacked]

Really? That's a new one on me. Just who do you think would argue that? One lone gunman going on a shooting spree vs 19 people carrying out an executed, premeditated, highly planned attack - who, exactly, would see that as a "simple mass murder?"

You do understand it was a reply to TimG's reply, right? Ok, good, then we are following the same conversation here.

[Shady]

funny how pro lifers like Shady & BC(if I'm not mistaken) say its murder to kill a fetus or "child" but when a crazy armed american soldier brutally murders 9 children it's okay because its justified revenge

I didn't say that the killings were justified. I just stated that I can understand why it happened.

[Guest American Woman]

You do understand it was a reply to TimG's reply, right? Ok, good, then we are following the same conversation here.

Yes, I do realize that. Tim G's reply was about single individuals committing mass murders - as was the case in this instance - but not on 9-11. This type of killing spree is quite different from 9-11 - where people trained, planned, financed, and then carried out the attacks.

[GostHacked]

Yes, I do realize that. Tim G's reply was about single individuals committing mass murders - as was the case in this instance - but not on 9-11. This type of killing spree is quite different from 9-11 - where people trained, planned, financed, and then carried out the attacks.

Looks like you are trying to make another argument here out of nothing. Carry on.

[eyeball]

Really? That's a new one on me. Just who do you think would argue that? One lone gunman going on a shooting spree vs 19 people carrying out an executed, premeditated, highly planned attack - who, exactly, would see that as a "simple mass murder?"

Hundreds of millions if not billions of people would argue that it was retaliation, for mass murder amongst other things.

What you really need is an eye's-closed-fingers-in-ears-la la la smiley.

[Guest American Woman]

Looks like you are trying to make another argument here out of nothing. Carry on.

Ummm. No. I'm not. Just pointing out how ludicrous it is to try to compare the 9-11 attacks, which were planned, financed, and carried out by an organized group whose purpose it was to kill innocent civilians - to a lone gunman going on a killing spree.

[bush_cheney2004]

I didn't say that the killings were justified. I just stated that I can understand why it happened.

Right...it was murder by one 38 year-old US Army NCO as far as we know. Nobody has proposed it as "justified".

Of course, some here have proposed that 3,000 Americans, Canadians, and other nationals "deserved it" and "had it coming" on 9/11.

[Shady]

Of course, some here have proposed that 3,000 Americans, Canadians, and other nationals "deserved it" and "had it coming" on 9/11.

Exactly. It's weird how that idea of theirs is so selective.

[eyeball]

Exactly. It's weird how that idea of theirs is so selective.

Except that's not what is being said.

The idea is that the US government and the largest oil companies that run it deserved it. The innocents who were killed were collateral damage or human shields.

Our side has killed hundreds of thousands of these since 9/11.

[bush_cheney2004]

Exactly. It's weird how that idea of theirs is so selective.

In a weird way, this soldier's crime has completed the framework for violent terrorism. What would happen if the Americans and NATO just decided to kill indiscriminately on purpose? The Afghans were angered by the level of routine collateral damage, but are now stunned by purposeful murder just because it wasn't from the usual Taliban or Pashtun suspects. Nobody said that jihad would be pretty.

[Shady]

The idea is that the US government and the largest oil companies that run it deserved it.

Complete nosense. That's the most warped, bat-shit crazy thing I think I've ever read in this forum. Unfortunately, you're completely lost, with no hope of recovery.

[bush_cheney2004]

Except that's not what is being said.

Yes it was..go back and read the thread(s).

The idea is that the US government and the largest oil companies that run it deserved it. The innocents who were killed were collateral damage or human shields.

They didn't work for the oil companies, and it is absurd to suggest that they would "deserve it" even if they did.

Our side has killed hundreds of thousands of these since 9/11.

No, the majority were killed by sectarian violence and insurgency against recognized governments.

Edited March 12, 2012 by bush_cheney2004

[eyeball]

What would happen if the Americans and NATO just decided to kill indiscriminately on purpose?

I think it was Derek who suggested this is exactly how we should be prosecuting this war, by destroying the things that the enemy is fighting for, it's villages, homes and children.

This is the sort of pagan ethos that wins wars.

[Shady]

No, the majority were killed by sectarian violence and insurgency against recognized governments.

Exactly. But why bother with facts, when you can blame deaths that occur after 9/11 for the reason for 9/11.