PIK Posted March 6, 2012 Report Posted March 6, 2012 (edited) Those tens of thousands of complaints to Elections Canada and others are being driven by a pair of online advocacy groups with strong ties to the far left in Canada, the Obama campaign and a host of American left-wing groups.These groups, like the esteemed New Democrat MP Pat Martin are upset over what is happening to Canadas democracy. Why when you look at what is happening, its like were becoming Yankees. But something really stinks about this idea that tens of thousands of Canadians spontaneously contacted Elections Canada nine months after the election because they suddenly remembered getting a strange phone call.[/b]What has happened is that the left has imported what they claim they hate.Thats right Pat, American-style dirty tricks from your side to try and force a public inquiry and push for by-elections in key ridings so that the results of the election can be overturned. Think Im nuts, look at the website of this group, Leadnow.ca. Avaaz is out of New York City, this is a group that tried to get Sun News shut down before we even launched. These are high level Americans with deep ties to the left wing of the Democratic Party are now trying to overturn Canadian democracy. Yet another example of how you cant trust the consensus media. http://blogs.canoe.ca/lilleyspad/general/robo-complaints/ Now the truth is slowly coming out, who really is bringing in american style politics. This could be the end of the NDP. Edited March 6, 2012 by PIK Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
Michael Hardner Posted March 6, 2012 Report Posted March 6, 2012 PIK - cross posting, or posting content from other sites is against the rules here. Please edit your post, and add some comment to start of the discussion on it. Thanks. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
PIK Posted March 6, 2012 Author Report Posted March 6, 2012 (edited) PIK - cross posting, or posting content from other sites is against the rules here. Please edit your post, and add some comment to start of the discussion on it. Thanks. I did put in a comment, it is at the bottom, and I put it up so people will read it. I have been banned a few times for doing something wrong but I have done this before without anybody saying anything. So what is it? One day it is OK and the next it is not? So do I just cancell the whole thing? Edited March 6, 2012 by PIK Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
Michael Hardner Posted March 6, 2012 Report Posted March 6, 2012 I did put in a comment, it is at the bottom, and I put it up so people will read it. I have been banned a few times for doing something wrong but I have done this before without anybody saying anything. So what is it? One day it is OK and the next it is not? So do I just cancell the whole thing? No, it's not ok. Posters here sometimes assume because they did something and didn't hear anything that it's ok. That's not the case. The moderators don't see every post, or every infraction. Likewise, if there are a bunch of insults on a thread, and a moderator comes on and calls out one of the posters, they will say it's unfair. The moderators only see what they see. I suggest you edit the original post to add quotes around the article in question, and only include the parts that are relevant to your comment. The rule is against cross posting, and posting entire articles so again posting what is pertinent only should be fine. I don't expect that you did this on purpose. I myself have a single warning on my profile for doing this exact same thing many years ago. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
waldo Posted March 6, 2012 Report Posted March 6, 2012 (edited) I did put in a comment, it is at the bottom, and I put it up so people will read it. I have been banned a few times for doing something wrong but I have done this before without anybody saying anything. So what is it? One day it is OK and the next it is not? So do I just cancell the whole thing? no - it reads like you've written it, when clearly you didn't, uhhh... couldn't. It needs to be quoted and linked to. More pointedly, I understand MLW rules advise against referencing an article in it's entirety... an extract yes, the entire article, no. on edit: did not notice MH's comment; in any case, who wrote that, anyways? Oh... LilleyPad - carry on! Edited March 6, 2012 by waldo Quote
MiddleClassCentrist Posted March 6, 2012 Report Posted March 6, 2012 (edited) If they did nothing wrong, why did they demand that the Liberals open their phone records while refusing to do so themselves in the same breath? Diversionary tactic, and a horribly easy one to spot. Edited March 6, 2012 by MiddleClassCentrist Quote Ideology does not make good policy. Good policy comes from an analysis of options, comparison of options and selection of one option that works best in the current situation. This option is often a compromise between ideologies.
GostHacked Posted March 6, 2012 Report Posted March 6, 2012 If they did nothing wrong, why did they demand that the Liberals open their phone records while refusing to do so themselves in the same breath? Diversionary tactic, and a horribly easy one to spot. Yeah that was an awesome 'tactic'. The CBC this morning went on about how good the CPC was at killing stories like this. IN parliament they tried to move to another topic, but the rest of them are not allowing that to happen, keeping this right in front of their faces all the time. It is quite hypocritical to ask for the Liberals to open their records without opening theirs. I don't know how fraud would be proven from that, considering the Liberals lost a good chunk of seats. Quote
madmax Posted March 6, 2012 Report Posted March 6, 2012 I have been banned a few times for doing something wrong but I have done this before Nuff said.. Quote
scribblet Posted March 6, 2012 Report Posted March 6, 2012 Have you seen his anywhere else? Has this lead off the CBC or CTV news casts? ---------------------- http://blogs.canoe.ca/lilleyspad/general/robo-complaints/ Now the truth is slowly coming out, who really is bringing in american style politics. This could be the end of the NDP. You won't see CBC talking about this, and that left wing 'Canadian site' is run by Ian Capstick and Judy Rebick - nuff said about that manipulation of democracy Quote Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province
scribblet Posted March 6, 2012 Report Posted March 6, 2012 ---------------------- It is quite hypocritical to ask for the Liberals to open their records without opening theirs. I don't know how fraud would be proven from that, considering the Liberals lost a good chunk of seats. Prove with evidence and facts that the Liberals lost one seat due to robo calling. How many people have actually said they didn't vote because of it ! Quote Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province
olpfan1 Posted March 6, 2012 Report Posted March 6, 2012 http://blogs.canoe.ca/lilleyspad/general/robo-complaints/ Now the truth is slowly coming out, who really is bringing in american style politics. This could be the end of the NDP. a blog post could be the end of the NDP? ROFL Quote
olpfan1 Posted March 6, 2012 Report Posted March 6, 2012 (edited) Someone should probably tell P.K that one of the guys that helped Harper become the leader of the reform / conservatives was an American political scientist named Tom Flanagan http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Flanagan_%28political_scientist%29 He was also the man who called for the assassination of Julian Assange and was the prime suspect in the Cadman scandal Edited March 6, 2012 by olpfan1 Quote
PIK Posted March 6, 2012 Author Report Posted March 6, 2012 I just listen to a interview with the head guy from that outfit I was talking about, it was a joke and they have one agenda only ,to bring down the cons. If you people were really concerned about the elections rules ,then you would be upset by having these american groups come in and start telling people what to do in this country and then asked for a donation. So what I would do is those 31000 complaints should be ignored and use the 1003 original complaints that came in about guelph, to do with phione calls, actully there were alot more complaints about accesibilty at polling stations, then phone calls. Who here recieved a call? Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
PIK Posted March 6, 2012 Author Report Posted March 6, 2012 (edited) No, it's not ok. Posters here sometimes assume because they did something and didn't hear anything that it's ok. That's not the case. The moderators don't see every post, or every infraction. Likewise, if there are a bunch of insults on a thread, and a moderator comes on and calls out one of the posters, they will say it's unfair. The moderators only see what they see. I suggest you edit the original post to add quotes around the article in question, and only include the parts that are relevant to your comment. The rule is against cross posting, and posting entire articles so again posting what is pertinent only should be fine. I don't expect that you did this on purpose. I myself have a single warning on my profile for doing this exact same thing many years ago. Well excuse me for not being a mind reader, now that you have told me ,it won't happen again.My mistake, sorry. Edited March 6, 2012 by PIK Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
olpfan1 Posted March 6, 2012 Report Posted March 6, 2012 Think I’m nuts, look at the website of this group, Leadnow.ca. This group has an entire campaign to push people to contact Prime Minister Stephen Harper, the other party leaders, RCMP Commissioner Bob Paulson and William Corbett, the Commissioner of Canada Elections – he’s the lead investigator for any wrong doing in the election. They have a full template set up right there to email all these guys at once and they are bragging about how many people they have put on to Elections Canada. I'm having a hard time wondering why this is somehow bad or scandalous or even the fall of the NDP? Quote
olpfan1 Posted March 6, 2012 Report Posted March 6, 2012 I just listen to a interview with the head guy from that outfit I was talking about, it was a joke and they have one agenda only ,to bring down the cons. If you people were really concerned about the elections rules ,then you would be upset by having these american groups come in and start telling people what to do in this country and then asked for a donation. So what I would do is those 31000 complaints should be ignored and use the 1003 original complaints that came in about guelph, to do with phione calls, actully there were alot more complaints about accesibilty at polling stations, then phone calls. Who here recieved a call? How do you think they do recalls in the U.S? Petitions. Giving people the emails of public servants and politicians and asking them to demand a public inquiry is hardly what you consider a threat to Canada. In fact if you at all thought they had nothing to do hide you too yourself would be demanding a public inquiry. But I see you're doing some damage control for the conservatives and doing a really crappy job at that Quote
PIK Posted March 6, 2012 Author Report Posted March 6, 2012 I'm having a hard time wondering why this is somehow bad or scandalous or even the fall of the NDP? You have pat martin screaming at the top of his lungs of american politics coming to canada by harper , where actually it is the left that is bringing in these sleazy american companies to do thier bidding for them. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
PIK Posted March 6, 2012 Author Report Posted March 6, 2012 How do you think they do recalls in the U.S? Petitions. Giving people the emails of public servants and politicians and asking them to demand a public inquiry is hardly what you consider a threat to Canada. In fact if you at all thought they had nothing to do hide you too yourself would be demanding a public inquiry. But I see you're doing some damage control for the conservatives and doing a really crappy job at that 1003 original complaints, what is so hard to understand about that, but to have 30000 people using these american web sites to say they were victims also after nine months. I use the word victims, because that was on the front page of the citizen. It seems the 1st victim is a journalist and lecturer, who will now come the new spokesperson for the left and make a ton of money for it. Victims, talk about being drama queens. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
olpfan1 Posted March 6, 2012 Report Posted March 6, 2012 (edited) You have pat martin screaming at the top of his lungs of american politics coming to canada by harper , where actually it is the left that is bringing in these sleazy american companies to do thier bidding for them. We've already had American politics... Harpers closest advisers and aids were Americans...we'll have old school American style mandatory sentences for marijuana You have lost it man, in your bid to try and diminish robocall you've gone completely off the deep end Have fun swimming with Del Mastro Edited March 6, 2012 by olpfan1 Quote
olpfan1 Posted March 6, 2012 Report Posted March 6, 2012 Victims, talk about being drama queens. Seems like you're the one who is wining now, you're quite the victim Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 6, 2012 Report Posted March 6, 2012 We've already had American politics... Harpers closest advisers and aids were Americans...we'll have old school American style mandatory sentences for marijuana Nope...no such thing..it's all "Canadian style" but you just don't want to admit it. Hell, Canada banned cannabis before the Americans ever did. Stop whining and take responsibility for domestic processes being driven by domestic events. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
olpfan1 Posted March 6, 2012 Report Posted March 6, 2012 Nope...no such thing..it's all "Canadian style" but you just don't want to admit it. Hell, Canada banned cannabis before the Americans ever did. Stop whining and take responsibility for domestic processes being driven by domestic events. The truth hurts sometimes B.C Quote
capricorn Posted March 6, 2012 Report Posted March 6, 2012 I just listen to a interview with the head guy from that outfit I was talking about, it was a joke and they have one agenda only ,to bring down the cons. I heard that radio interview too. The guy from leadnow.ca was boasting that the movement is non-partisan and represents all political views, and welcomes supporters from all parties. After letting him go on, the interviewer turned the table on him by reading directly from their website which vilifies the Conservatives. Dead silence. Then the leadnow.ca spokesman tried to spin his tale some more. Too late, you were exposed. Quote "We always want the best man to win an election. Unfortunately, he never runs." Will Rogers
olpfan1 Posted March 6, 2012 Report Posted March 6, 2012 I heard that radio interview too. The guy from leadnow.ca was boasting that the movement is non-partisan and represents all political views, and welcomes supporters from all parties. After letting him go on, the interviewer turned the table on him by reading directly from their website which vilifies the Conservatives. Dead silence. Then the leadnow.ca spokesman tried to spin his tale some more. Too late, you were exposed. So making a website encouraging people to contact their politicians and elections canada is illegal? I don't understand your complaints, it's legal Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 6, 2012 Report Posted March 6, 2012 The truth hurts sometimes B.C I know...so they should stop whining about bogeyman Americans. That is just pathetic! Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
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